What has to happen to move forward next year
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No thank you. His individual metrics rate way behind even Barnes. That would be a step back. He can create some things for himself but unless Kuz is getting the chunk of the offense he's got now, we already know what that looks like. He's somebody who at some point will be pushed back to the bench most likely as a "6th man". Not worth it.
I think people really need to look at the ages of teams in the playoffs. 29 unless a player has injury concerns or something wrong is still young, lol. This idea that the Kings need to look at 5 years down the line or something is just plain wrong. You start making the strides now so when Fox and Domas are 30 or so you can either re-tool, or rebuild. You don't want to be the Blazers and just keep spinning. Commit and prepare for 2 pushes if need be.
But the Blazers are possibly looking at that differently now. There's been some talk about them finally biting the rebuild bullet before it's too late. With the way Sharpe looked late the DUMBEST thing they could do is punt on that potential star and go for it now behind a 34 year old Dame. Not unless they can land Giannis or something crazy.
Yeah, what they do will change the landscape for some team, hopefully a team like the Kings. Sounds like they might be ready to blow and sent out that Scottie is the only untouchable. The obvious issue is that prior to that the value they put on their assets was stupid level. They want a Mitchell package for OG which is over the top IMO. Now for Siakam? Do it all day.
Actually, that's exactly what the Kings need as evidenced by how when Sabonis didn't go all "Shaq" people started to confuse that scoring need and lack team wise with an all star player being totally useless. The Kings need someone that can take the pressure off of Fox to score. In looking at the iso stats in post season play Fox was the only one that even registered a percentile. That's almost Jordan pre-Pippen stuff. Very unlikely that will take a team farther than the middle of the playoffs and could even set you back if teams upgrade over a summer.
The Kings need someone to reliably get buckets and this playoff preview showed exactly why. The playoffs are a different beast than the regular season. I think that the shooter teams having a chance thing of the last two seasons is already kind of dissipating. Physical style ball has kind of corrected the course. The Kings greatest net rating offense in history just struggled to get up to 12 out of 16. I've brought it up before, this is so similar to the millennium Kings it's eerie. That was a team that eventually had to adjust that offense into a more refined two man game and the trick wasn't adding more passing, it was adding more scoring mainly in the form of Mike Bibby.
The Kings need someone to reliably get buckets and this playoff preview showed exactly why. The playoffs are a different beast than the regular season. I think that the shooter teams having a chance thing of the last two seasons is already kind of dissipating. Physical style ball has kind of corrected the course. The Kings greatest net rating offense in history just struggled to get up to 12 out of 16. I've brought it up before, this is so similar to the millennium Kings it's eerie. That was a team that eventually had to adjust that offense into a more refined two man game and the trick wasn't adding more passing, it was adding more scoring mainly in the form of Mike Bibby.
Seems like there aren't many better options out there. I wouldn't be opposed to bringing barnes back at 17.5mil or so a year. I mean you don't want to overpay guys like kuzma and Grant at 30-35mil per year. Safe to say we rather have Barnes at 17.5 (if he even accepts that) over paying 35mil a year for kuzma or grant?
Unless we make trades there aren't many other wings better than barnes on the free agent market this upcoming summer. I know he wasn't good during this playoff series but he hasn't been that bad through out his career.
Unless we make trades there aren't many other wings better than barnes on the free agent market this upcoming summer. I know he wasn't good during this playoff series but he hasn't been that bad through out his career.
No, he's the PG of the team. As a shooter he's not a guard obviously though. The Kings need at least a few players (preferably a really good one that can be a 2nd/3rd option IMO) around Fox and Domas that can create for themselves and according to the stats the 3-4 players who even registered were the ones that kind of decided the series by their play. Poor or otherwise. Davion, Monk, Huerter (very little iso play this year but did register), and Barnes. Barnes is actually the more prolific in getting both to the line and getting his own shot. He just rarely looks for it. Just ditching that for more system play is going to set the team back. This year was great and all but in the playoffs we saw the issues of having a team almost entirely dependent on 2 players to generate all the buckets.
If he is the generational talent everyone thinks he is he should be able to come in as the third best player on a playoff team next year. If you have Dame’s prime for 4 more years you either need to capitalize on it now or trade him imo
if you are trading Sharpe and picks you are getting a special talent
if you are trading Sharpe and picks you are getting a special talent
We’re in agreement that this team needs a 3rd star. I’ve already posted about it here:
The issue is that Kuzma is not that star level player and this seems like a very shortsighted move. Moving Lyles to the starting lineup does not mean Barnes is off the team. In fact, you may see more scoring creation from Barnes putting him and Monk as the primary scoring options off the bench.
The issue is that Kuzma is not that star level player and this seems like a very shortsighted move. Moving Lyles to the starting lineup does not mean Barnes is off the team. In fact, you may see more scoring creation from Barnes putting him and Monk as the primary scoring options off the bench.
Was listening to D-lo and KC today and KC mentioned PJ Washington would be the player he'd try and get. He's a restricted FA and idk what his market would be but we think Keegan can be a 3 and I do think defensively he can be then I'd be all for it.
https://swarmandsting.com/2022/11/14/charlotte-hornets-pj-washington-2/
Looks like he was offered 4 year 52 mill. I'd happily exceed that.
https://swarmandsting.com/2022/11/14/charlotte-hornets-pj-washington-2/
Looks like he was offered 4 year 52 mill. I'd happily exceed that.
I want the Warriors again next year. I want Sabonis to set a screen so hard on Curry on the first play that Draymond (who is watching the playoffs at home in Charlotte) will cringe. Fox will stand over his corpse and casually say, "we lit your beam, bro."
We'll take the flagrant 2, and win the series in 5.
We'll take the flagrant 2, and win the series in 5.
So we get Grant or Lavine and devalue monk and Murray that’s a garbage move murray would get 8-10 shots a game while those two jack shots up will giving us minimal defense it’s not a winning strategy. Dude left a playoff contender in denver to be the “man” in Detroit on the same salary you want a guy that values “being the man” instead of being the third man behind Murray/Jokic to win rings I sure don’t
One other thing to consider in all this is do we still have Monk after next year. He said in his presser that he embraced his role as the sixth man however he said he embraced it because it’s not up to him, it’s up to the coach. That could be taken a couple different ways but it’s reasonable to wonder if starting would be taken into consideration on his next contract whether here or elsewhere. Fox seems like the type of friend to tell him to go get the biggest bag and role. Something to keep an eye on this next season when he is extension eligible
I said 3/42 and a tweeter replied to me (not that figure) 4/60 ... I guess I can live with either. Not paying 17-18mpy after that disappearing act. If he wants to get paid and someone wants to pay him I think sign Lyles and Sasha and then try to get yourself that energy big and have them fight to win the starting spot next to Domas.