[Game] Kings @ Heat, 11/02/2022 4:30pm Pacific, 7:30pm Eastern

[TaxMan]

So, I haven’t been able to watch as much as I have in previous seasons.

Is there really reason to believe this team is any different than last seasons? Because when I watch, I just see more of the same.

Are you kidding?

 

[NewArena]

I don't see any point in being mad about this one. We went on a run, they went on a run. We missed some shots, they missed some shots. And then Tyler hits an incredibly difficult 3. The game was close the whole time and sometimes things just don't work out in your favor.

Kvon was awesome again, Sabonis was awesome. Monk was doing great but had a few miscues that cost us. Murray struggled with his offense again. I dunno that's mostly positives.

Yup! And our best player is out. We have a chance to be good and give everyone fits this season as the chemistry grows

 

[Tetsujin]

What happened to our def stopper? How does he go from starting to zero min and nothing on a defensive play we must have. Somebody was lying at beginning of season. I'm confused about things around here

What are you even talking about? How was KZ Okpala being in against a small ball lineup to end the game going to change anything?

 

[SacTownKid]

Watched Miami’s defense all night. Really love Spoelstra and that culture.

IMO he and Kerr are neck and neck for best coaches in basketball now that Snyder is out.

 

[pdxKingsFan]

Yeah, not reserving a TO in a game like this...

AND can we give Tyler Herro some credit? He was only 1-5 from 3 til that dagger.

He called one on the possession before, how many are you supposed to save for the final minute? At some point you run out. Just needed to get that stop on the play before.

 

[pdxKingsFan]

IMO he and Kerr are neck and neck for best coaches in basketball now that Snyder is out.

Absolutely. I would put him above both, tbh.

 

[Rob-The-Great]

Barnes and Holmes disappearing is what's really silently killing us. Hurry back, Fox!

But this is basically every game. Sick of Barnes already and Holmes shouldn't even be playing right now. All I saw was one on one basketball at end of game

 

[Woot!]

Hard to be THAT mad, but, know what? You gotta beat Miami without Jimmy Butler or Oladipo when they're on the 2nd night of a B2B.

Fox or no Fox.

 

[NewArena]

Malik Monk with 7 assists? Another thing to build on

 

[Rob-The-Great]

He called one on the possession before, how many are you supposed to save for the final minute? At some point you run out. Just needed to get that stop on the play before.

But even when he called that wasted time out. It wasn't even a good play just Davion going one on one

 

[SLAB]

Are you kidding?

I’m not. Which is why I led with “I haven’t been able to watch as much this season.” Maybe I’ll end up being pleasantly surprised the more this goes and the more I manage to see. Maybe they only play good when I’m not watching. *shrugs*

 

[Kingster]

The Kings must have allowed at least 20 shots at the basket in this game. Brown will have nightmares on this one. Personally, I would rather have had Murray in the game at the end instead of Barnes.

 

[SacTownKid]

He called one on the possession before, how many are you supposed to save for the final minute? At some point you run out. Just needed to get that stop on the play before.

This is another issue of not running pick and roll enough. PNR is a quick hitting play you can reset and run again. If you have 1 TO you don't take it to tie a game. You need it to extend it. We saw Walton wipe his butt with TO's so this isn't horrible by any stretch but could be an issue heading on.

 

[NewArena]

We'd be like 5 and 2 or 4-3 if we had the easier schedule this team had to start last season. I honestly think we'll be fine

 

[pdxKingsFan]

But even when he called that wasted time out. It wasn't even a good play just Davion going one on one

I don't know, probably wanted to talk about how to set the defense after a make as much as the play.

 

[kb02]

IMO he and Kerr are neck and neck for best coaches in basketball now that Snyder is out.

I give the edge to Spoelstra, bcz he’s done it across generations. But I concur, those two are at the top of my current list.

 

[Sluggah]

I don’t get being mad. At all. Seems like it says more about you than anything basketball related.

 

[NewArena]

The Kings must have allowed at least 20 shots at the basket in this game. Brown will have nightmares on this one. Personally, I would rather have had Murray in the game at the end instead of Barnes.

DEFINITELY! Ew @ that decision, but i've liked our Coaching staff so far overall.

 

[Tetsujin]

Barnes and Holmes disappearing is what's really silently killing us. Hurry back, Fox!

Holmes actually had his best game of the season tonight. Dude was really good in his minutes.

Barnes has definitely settled down on offense but his perimeter shot continues to have abandoned him and his continued defensive miscues are concerning. That said, Keegan was really struggling tonight so I can see why Brown would stick with Barnes at the four in that smallball lineup.

 

[TaxMan]

I’m not. Which is why I led with “I haven’t been able to watch as much this season.” Maybe I’ll end up being pleasantly surprised the more this goes and the more I manage to see. Maybe they only play good when I’m not watching. *shrugs*

I thought they played a good game tonight so even with the loss I am encouraged. Now talk to me at halftime of the Hornets game and I was right there with you.

 

[pdxKingsFan]

This is another issue of not running pick and roll enough. PNR is a quick hitting play you can reset and run again. If you have 1 TO you don't take it to tie a game. You need it to extend it. We saw Walton wipe his butt with TO's so this isn't horrible by any stretch but could be an issue heading on.

do you really think the time out cost the game and not allowing a frickin 3? Or the horrid defensive rebounding to close out the game?

 

[KF8]

Hard to be THAT mad, but, know what? You gotta beat Miami without Jimmy Butler or Oladipo when they're on the 2nd night of a B2B.

Fox or no Fox.

we're not a good enough team to say whether we should beat a team or not.. other teams are looking at the kings thinking the kings is their "get right" game.

We'd be like 5 and 2 or 4-3 if we had the easier schedule this team had to start last season. I honestly think we'll be fine

I still don't think we're making the playoffs

 

[Rob-The-Great]

What are you even talking about? How was KZ Okpala being in against a small ball lineup to end the game going to change anything?

Small lineup? Can KZ not guard 1-4? He's long and can def contest shots. He was suppost to be 1 of our best defenders. These ain't my words these are coaches. We need 1 stop I would think we would have our best defenders out there

 

[kb02]

I thought tonight was Keegan’s best game. Yhall focus on his shooting n celebrate like he’s going to be klay from day one—Miami didn’t give him any space and it showed in his percentages. I focused on the cutting, passing, n awareness.

 

[Woot!]

So, I haven’t been able to watch as much as I have in previous seasons.

Is there really reason to believe this team is any different than previous seasons? Because when I watch, I just see more of the same.

My goodness. Not nearly as bad as the no-dreadlocks take, but...

The wins aren't coming as we'd like and certainly much to improve on. But the Kings are putting out a VERY different product this year and I'm mosdef here for it.

 

[Tetsujin]

Small lineup? Can KZ not guard 1-4? He's long and can def contest shots. He was suppost to be 1 of our best defenders. These ain't my words these are coaches. We need 1 stop I would think we would have our best defenders out there

We did for the situation. TD is a really good defender when he’s actually locked in on that end. Davion and Delly are as well. Unless you wanted KZ in for Sabonis, I don’t really know where you’d stick him on that possession.

 

[SacTownKid]

The Kings must have allowed at least 20 shots at the basket in this game. Brown will have nightmares on this one. Personally, I would rather have had Murray in the game at the end instead of Barnes.

Barnes had a good impact on the game mostly. Especially on the boards. Also, on that post up he clearly got fouled but no call. The idea ishould be Barnes + Murray and you switch EVERYTHING. That's where the game is at right now. They've gone back to playing Domas in drop and it gives up open 3's almost every time. It's not as deep a drop as they used to run but this is the issue of not being a super big or athletic team on the perimeter. I give Monk and the guards credit though, they tried valiantly to get back out and contest.

 

[Woot!]

I thought tonight was Keegan’s best game. Yhall focus on his shooting n celebrate like he’s going to be klay from day one—Miami didn’t give him any space and it showed in his percentages. I focused on the cutting, passing, n awareness.

His playmaking was a level above what it's been, and good to see.

 

[SLAB]

I thought they played a good game tonight so even with the loss I am encouraged. Now talk to me at halftime of the Hornets game and I was right there with you.

I’m probably just feeling yet another L right now. I don’t think we’ll ever win these types of games. And I caught the first half of the Hornets game before having to be elsewhere. Definitely turned it around after I was gone.

 

[pdxKingsFan]

Small lineup? Can KZ not guard 1-4? He's long and can def contest shots. He was suppost to be 1 of our best defenders. These ain't my words these are coaches. We need 1 stop I would think we would have our best defenders out there

I liked the idea of KZ as defensive starter specialist more than the execution. I'd rather Keegan had a good night and be in to close than KZ. I think we got pretty lucky to keep it tied down the stretch as our offense seemed to go pretty stagnant after the shot that put us up 7.