The Tankathon Thread (since that's apparently what this is now)

sactowndog

sactowndog

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#92
#92
iowamcnabb said:
The timing of the trade deadline is both a blessing and a curse for the Kings. Had it happened 10 games sooner we might have a better record and be in a better position to make the play in and more importantly build moment for next season. On the other hand, with the tough schedule and the surprising play of the Blazers and others we are still positioned to get a high pick. I’m torn, a good pick would compliment out team but on the other hand, if we finish 7-17 or something how much hope would we have with a Fox Sabonis core?
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except we won’t finish 7-17. We only have 22 games remaining.

I have us with likely losses: 9
Denver (2), Pheonix (1), Boston(1), Utah (1), Mil (1), GS(1), Chicago (1), Miami (1)

I have as likely wins: 6
OKC(1), Houston (2), Indy (1), Orlando (1), Phx(1)

Toss ups: 7
Denver (1), SA (1), Dallas (1), New York (1), New Orleans (2), Clippers (1),

So assume we go 5-2… to finish at .500

we are 4 games behind Portland but have the tie breaker…..

Portland has 6 likely wins against tanking teams. So in 17 games they must be worse the 7-10…. But 3 of those games are against San Antonio who we also have to pass.

in short the odds of finishing 7-9 are pretty high.
 
iowamcnabb

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#94
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If the Blazers continue winning, I wonder if Dame will re-appear at the end of the season? It looks like they are hoping for a quick reset as opposed to a rebuild. If they can re
sactowndog said:
except we won’t finish 7-17. We only have 22 games remaining.

I have us with likely losses: 9
Denver (2), Pheonix (1), Boston(1), Utah (1), Mil (1), GS(1), Chicago (1), Miami (1)

I have as likely wins: 6
OKC(1), Houston (2), Indy (1), Orlando (1), Phx(1)

Toss ups: 7
Denver (1), SA (1), Dallas (1), New York (1), New Orleans (2), Clippers (1),

So assume we go 5-2… to finish at .500

we are 4 games behind Portland but have the tie breaker…..

Portland has 6 likely wins against tanking teams. So in 17 games they must be worse the 7-10…. But 3 of those games are against San Antonio who we also have to pass.

in short the odds of finishing 7-9 are pretty high.
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I meant 7-17 including games already played. I do wonder, if we finish say 12-10, where does that put us in the race for the bottom? At the rate the other teams are playing I just don't know.
 
iowamcnabb

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If the Blazers continue winning, I wonder if Dame will re-appear at the end of the season? It looks like they are hoping for a quick reset as opposed to a rebuild. I still think they should trade him, but if they insist on keeping him around they might be able to re-tool and be decent. Simons is looking legit, Hart is great off the bench, 2 potential top 12 picks in this draft and some flexibility. Going to be hard to sign any free agents for them though, especially with the uncertainty regarding Dame's future.
 
sactowndog

sactowndog

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#96
#96
iowamcnabb said:
If the Blazers continue winning, I wonder if Dame will re-appear at the end of the season? It looks like they are hoping for a quick reset as opposed to a rebuild. If they can re


I meant 7-17 including games already played. I do wonder, if we finish say 12-10, where does that put us in the race for the bottom? At the rate the other teams are playing I just don't know.
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We have no chance of catching the top 5…. They are strategically tanking with a 2 game lead minimum and we at least one game against all but Detroit.

the question is where do we finish via SA and New Orleans. I guess we pass them both but fail to catch Portland for 8th worst draft odds.
 
pdxKingsFan

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#98
#98
iowamcnabb said:
The timing of the trade deadline is both a blessing and a curse for the Kings. Had it happened 10 games sooner we might have a better record and be in a better position to make the play in and more importantly build moment for next season. On the other hand, with the tough schedule and the surprising play of the Blazers and others we are still positioned to get a high pick. I’m torn, a good pick would compliment out team but on the other hand, if we finish 7-17 or something how much hope would we have with a Fox Sabonis core?
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I think we're closer than we were before. I guess we'll see if Holmes rebounds after the break but I think we'll have to trade him and hopefully it's for a good pair with Barnes. Then maybe you can draft a 2-3 swing. Or vice versa I guess but we really need an upgrade in the Harkless spot.
 
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Gguod

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#103
#103
The_Jamal said:
And a top pick remains the best way for this franchise to truly transform; that was the case with Hali and it's going to be the case with Sabonis.
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This should not be forgotten. Hopefully we are smart enough to pull the plug once the magical 10th seed is far enough from our reach. I would hate to lose extremely valuable draft position just so we could win a couple of extra games and build some hypothetical "momentum" for next season. Last draft is an excellent example on how much damage few meaningless wins can do.
 
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SLAB

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Gguod said:
This should not be forgotten. Hopefully we are smart enough to pull the plug once the magical 10th seed is far enough from our reach. I would hate lose extremely valuable draft position just so we could win a couple of extra games and build some hypothetical "nomentum" for next season. Last draft is an excellent example on how much damage few meaningless wins can do.
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Once the ten seed is out of reach we’re winning 6 games in a row.
 
EIM86

EIM86

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#115
#115
22 games left

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Knicks
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at Jazz
Bulls
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Celtics
Suns
at Pacers
at Magic
at Heat
at Rockets
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Dubs
Pelicans
at Clippers
at Suns

Id say we can win 10 games which prolly will keep us out of the play-in even with the Portland tank
 
Tetsujin

Tetsujin

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#117
#117
EIM86 said:
22 games left

Nuggets
at Nuggets
at Thunder
at Pelicans
at Spurs
at Mavs
Knicks
Nuggets
at Jazz
Bulls
at Bucks
Celtics
Suns
at Pacers
at Magic
at Heat
at Rockets
at Rockets
Dubs
Pelicans
at Clippers
at Suns

Id say we can win 10 games which prolly will keep us out of the play-in even with the Portland tank
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It depends because if those ten wins include two wins against the Pels, we’d wind up with the tiebreaker and I’m not sure they’re winning too many games either.
 
kb02

kb02

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#119
#119
As of today, I think the Kings need to go 11 - 11 (49.9% Win Rate) to make the play in. There are 22 remaining games. The win % of the remaining opponents is 51%. The Kings play at home 9 times. There are 4 games (all away, so a good thing) where the opponent is actively trying to tank. The need to win 50% of the remaining games is based on the records (45.8%) of the teams, who made the play in last year. Since the Sabonis trade, the Kings are 2-2 (50% win rate). Maintain the pace and they're in. But the margin for error is pretty much non-existent. We'll see.

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Fantazija

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#120
#120
EIM86 said:
22 games left

Nuggets
at Nuggets
at Thunder
at Pelicans
at Spurs
at Mavs
Knicks
Nuggets
at Jazz
Bulls
at Bucks
Celtics
Suns
at Pacers
at Magic
at Heat
at Rockets
at Rockets
Dubs
Pelicans
at Clippers
at Suns

Id say we can win 10 games which prolly will keep us out of the play-in even with the Portland tank
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Need to go 12-10 to have a shot at play-in.If they can hang with one of the best in the East on the road(Bulls) then i guess there is a path to 12 wins with this schedule.But Gentry can't mess with rotations too much like Nets game
 
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