Kings trade Tyrese and Buddy for Sabonis and Holiday and Lamb

[Tetsujin]

It's going to work...for Vivek and McNair. The Kings fan base is not clamoring to make the play offs. Only Vivek and McNair are clamoring for that. Desperate fools. They're going to trade for Grant and this team will end up treadmilling for 5 years. Enjoy those first round exits. I hope the Kings go bankrupt.

Are we really acting like Kings fans wouldn‘t support the team if they somehow got into the postseason this year?

 

[notoriousBEN3]

Are Lamb and hHoliday guys that are actually gonna play? Any benefit to those two guys, or were they just to fill out the trade?

 

[SLAB]

Are we really acting like Kings fans wouldn‘t support the team if they somehow got into the postseason this year?

Does getting outed in one single game count as the playoffs. Because I refuse to qualify the play-in as the playoffs. Make a series.

 

[Mr. S£im Citrus]

I mean I've put it out there that Kings are my longest standing way of feeling connected to "home". If Marie Kondo were in charge we'd have a big fight about why I keep them. I'm also intent to be here for the big payday parade.

My question was more along the lines of, why can't the message board itself provide that for you?

 

[kb02]

Are we really acting like Kings fans wouldn‘t support the team if they somehow got into the postseason this year?

That's what Vivek and Monte are banking on. The odds are on their side that this team will make the playoffs the next few years, but I would love it if this blew up in their faces and the Kings bleed. I'm so annoyed by this move.

 

[SLAB]

From a Pacer fan on wrasslin’ board I go to.

The worst part about the Kings deal is getting Jeremy Lamb and Justin Holiday.

Lamb was, easily, the worst player on the team. Guy couldn't be motivated to do anything and it was baffling to see him get meaningful time as a result. Meanwhile, Justin Holiday is opposed to vaccinations and has stated he will continue to refuse getting any COVID shots. However, in California, they're pretty restrictive on COVID due to the large population, so a guy who doesn't want to get the vaccine ain't playing (or at least is gonna have to deal with a lot of hassles). And while Lamb is gone after this season, the Kings are stuck footing $6 million on Holiday until 2023.

 

[Gtronic]

watching sabonis highlights to make myself feel better... not working

 

[Tetsujin]

That's what Vivek and Monte are banking on. The odds are on their side that this team will make the playoffs the next few years, but I would love it if this blew up in their faces and the Kings bleed. I'm so annoyed by this move.

Not trying to sound mean or rude or anything but are you sure you’re even a Kings fan at this point? Just legitimately wondering.
because I’m still pissed at the Kings for ruining the Boogie core but I absolutely would be first in line to cheer on the Kings if they even start sniffing the postseason.

 

[SLAB]

watching sabonis highlights to make myself feel better... not working

How about Fox highlights now that he isn’t hindered by another guard?

 

[Padrino]

It's going to work...for Vivek and McNair. The Kings fan base is not clamoring to make the play offs. Only Vivek and McNair are clamoring for that. Desperate fools. They're going to trade for Grant and this team will end up treadmilling for 5 years. Enjoy those first round exits. I hope the Kings go bankrupt.

It may never work out, but why are so many fans behaving like trading minimal assets for a 25-year-old all-star is going to lock the Kings in some kind of purgatory? They didn't trade for the tail end of some overrated star's prime.

 

[kb02]

Not trying to sound mean or rude or anything but are you sure you’re even a Kings fan at this point? Just legitimately wondering.
because I’m still pissed at the Kings for ruining the Boogie core but I absolutely would be first in line to cheer on the Kings if they even start sniffing the postseason.

My wallet says I am. I'm not season ticket holder, I've averaged probably around $3k to $5k the last few years on going to games. I'm not spending another dime on this team until the Monte stank is gone.

 

[kb02]

It may never work out, but why are so many fans behaving like trading minimal assets for a 25-year-old all-star is going to lock the Kings in some kind of purgatory? They didn't trade for the tail end of some overrated star's prime.

I've been clear that the value is fine. I'm high on Sabonis.

If the issue was keeping Hali and tanking or trading Hali, the answer is simple.

 

[Rob-The-Great]

Again, I loved Hali, but what was yall expecting something for nothin

 

[Rob-The-Great]

I don't think anyone would be happy with any trade. Fox is dominant when he's on he just has sucked this year no way we take Hali over Fox last year

 

[sactowndog]

well starting our #2 overall for the remainder of his contract sounds like an option if we don't trade him.

who also can’t shoot?

 

[EIM86]

I think you plug in Davion at the other guard slot. My guess is a big part of making this deal is they believe that Mitchell starting full-time can give you similar impact that you got from Hali (in different ways obviously). PJ would obviously be a huge get and I think a flawless fit with Sabonis and Fox with his spacing and defense. Holiday and Lamb are actually good players and reasonable fixes in the short-term to plug in at the wing spot. I kind of hope we take advantage of the Lamb expiring though and flip him.


I'm not sure what wing fix you can get for Barnes, but I still wouldn't rule out some "future" assets for him to help restock after losing Hali. I think you actively try to shop Len and Bagley as well.

as long as we keep superstar Metu we’ll be good

 

[Sam0ah]

Man, I hate seeing Hali go, but we got a fundamental Big back. Sabonis reminds me of watching TIm Duncan play with a 3 point shot. The best part of this trade is not watching Buddy Heild turnover the ball, or let people fly by him on defense.

 

[sactowndog]

Actually, wait? Sabonis is a UFA in 2 years?

**** Vivek

You mean Monte. Odds are he is fired in 2 years.

 

[pdxKingsFan]

My question was more along the lines of, why can't the message board itself provide that for you?

It does. But do you mean like rooting for Portland or someone else and still being here for my hoops chat?
My outlet for winning hoops until then will be NCAA.

 

[Mr. S£im Citrus]

Let’s not forget Mitchell has his shot now. Show us that Kemba with defense we get glimpses of

Let's say you're right, for the sake of discourse: do you think that "Kemba with defense" is the ideal complement to Fox?

 

[NewArena]

Haliburton is seen as the cornerstone of a franchise now? So, when if and when we ever trade Fox, I’m sure he’ll suddenly be seen as the next James Harden and the Kings will be the dumbest team in the league, blah blah blah all over again. Hilarious! The national media is a joke.

 

[Padrino]

I've been clear that the value is fine. I'm high on Sabonis.

If the issue was keeping Hali and tanking or trading Hali, the answer is simple.

I don't even disagree. But again, behaving as if this move will damn the Kings for the foreseeable future is just craziness. Fans are jumping off ledges after the Kings acquired a young all-star while only having to sacrifice a single asset of note.

 

[sactowndog]

Man, I hate seeing Hali go, but we got a really fundamental Big back. Sabonis reminds me of watching TIm Duncan play with a 3 point shot. The best part of this trade is not watching Buddy Heild turnover the ball, or let people fly by him on defense.

Sabonis shoots 32.4% from 3.

 

[SLAB]

When Sabonis bolts in two years we can tank for real this time.

#silverlinings

 

[Rain man]

Maybe one of the benefits of this trade will be clearing out some of the posters who also don't want to be here any longer...

 

[Tetsujin]

Haliburton is seen as the cornerstone of a franchise now? So, when if and when we ever trade Fox, I’m sure he’ll suddenly be seen as the next James Harden and the Kings will be the dumbest team in the league, blah blah blah all over again. Hilarious! The national media is a joke.

The national media has actually been fairly positive about this trade. It’s Kings fans who are trashing it.

 

[Mr. S£im Citrus]

It does. But do you mean like rooting for Portland or someone else and still being here for my hoops chat?

I mean, like, not rooting for any team, whatsoever, and still being here for your hoops chat. That is also an option.

 

[The_Jamal]

I don't even disagree. But again, behaving as if this move will damn the Kings for the foreseeable future is just craziness. Fans are jumping off ledges after the Kings acquired a young all-star while only having to sacrifice a single asset of note.

KB02 is just very into his own line of thinking being the only correct way. We'll just leave it at that.

 

[kb02]

I don't even disagree. But again, behaving as if this move will damn the Kings for the foreseeable future is just craziness. Fans are jumping off ledges after the Kings acquired a young all-star while only having to sacrifice a single asset of note.

I'm speaking for myself. It's not like this move is all that surprising. I gave it 2/3 odds that Monte would trade for Turner and Grant. It looks like it's going to be Sabonis and Grant. I've been on the record that I would've hated trading for Turner and Grant. That was with the assumption that Hali and Fox would remain with the Kings. Trading Hali to get Sabonis and Grant is a deal breaker. It's desperation. Fu*k Monte and Vivek. I hope this team bleeds into bankruptcy and one of the private equity firms take over.

 

[kb02]

KB02 is just very into his own line of thinking being the only correct way. We'll just leave it at that.

Weak signals.