Kings trade Tyrese and Buddy for Sabonis and Holiday and Lamb
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correct - I'm talking about emotional attachment and the fact that we picked a guy later in the draft who was miles above many guys picked before him. We also held onto him long enough that we got little in return. I think we maxed the return we'd get on Hali, even if we still have glaring problems all over the roster. Sad not to build around him but he was a foundational piece not the tree topper. or whatever.
I want to complain about the trade, but I've been saying all year that they need to trade one of Fox, Haliburton or Mitchell because you can't maximize their talents with them sharing the ball.
I just assumed Haliburton wouldn't be the odd man out. Will be interesting to see how the team balances out the roster now. Need to jettison a couple of centers.
I just assumed Haliburton wouldn't be the odd man out. Will be interesting to see how the team balances out the roster now. Need to jettison a couple of centers.
I think you plug in Davion at the other guard slot. My guess is a big part of making this deal is they believe that Mitchell starting full-time can give you similar impact that you got from Hali (in different ways obviously). PJ would obviously be a huge get and I think a flawless fit with Sabonis and Fox with his spacing and defense. Holiday and Lamb are actually good players and reasonable fixes in the short-term to plug in at the wing spot. I kind of hope we take advantage of the Lamb expiring though and flip him.
I'm not sure what wing fix you can get for Barnes, but I still wouldn't rule out some "future" assets for him to help restock after losing Hali. I think you actively try to shop Len and Bagley as well.
I'm not sure what wing fix you can get for Barnes, but I still wouldn't rule out some "future" assets for him to help restock after losing Hali. I think you actively try to shop Len and Bagley as well.
Well you really can’t trade Barnes at the moment because you absolutely have to play him at the 4 or you have zero shooters who shoot over 40% from 3. While we have depth at the wing we are a bit undersized.
the only other move I can see is trading Holmes. You are pretty much rolling with a Fox Mitchell backcourt which by itself is puzzling as neither are shooters and both want to penetrate.
the only other move I can see is trading Holmes. You are pretty much rolling with a Fox Mitchell backcourt which by itself is puzzling as neither are shooters and both want to penetrate.
It's a small backcourt, but for now I think you're right. And with Barnes I also agree. I think you're looking to flip him to a low level playoff team for spare parts and a FRP in the teens or so rather than a piece that helps you now.
I'm gutted by losing Haliburton, and I think it's the wrong move, but now McNair needs to see this through. This is still a very mismatched roster with a lot of Vlade's core that we just need to move on from (other than Fox now). We'll see.
I'm gutted by losing Haliburton, and I think it's the wrong move, but now McNair needs to see this through. This is still a very mismatched roster with a lot of Vlade's core that we just need to move on from (other than Fox now). We'll see.
I want to cry. We did nothing in this to address defensive issues and moved the best creator on the team for the wrong pacer's big. If there are 2 good things that came of this, 1 is they got a legit top flight big for a medium high performing player without giving up draft capital AND 2 they broke up buddy's contract. Mitchell would have been better to send, but who knows, maybe if mitchell's shot continues to improve, it wont be horrible fit next to fox.
That said, I think it could be salvageable as long as this is not the last move Monte makes. You need to address spacing big time. Moving Holmes now is very important. Flipping him for a piece like PJ Washington/Ish Smith/2 second rounders, OG Anunoby and Filler (by sending Holmes, Bagley and FRP), John Collins for Holmes and Lamb and FRP/2 Seconds, or Jeremi Grant (by sending Holmes/Lamb and a first). There are other moves to make. It is not the worst I could have imagined, but a huge blow to the gut none the less.
We did want Monte to make a big splash...well this is a big splash. Fingers crossed Fox finds a jumper.
That said, I think it could be salvageable as long as this is not the last move Monte makes. You need to address spacing big time. Moving Holmes now is very important. Flipping him for a piece like PJ Washington/Ish Smith/2 second rounders, OG Anunoby and Filler (by sending Holmes, Bagley and FRP), John Collins for Holmes and Lamb and FRP/2 Seconds, or Jeremi Grant (by sending Holmes/Lamb and a first). There are other moves to make. It is not the worst I could have imagined, but a huge blow to the gut none the less.
We did want Monte to make a big splash...well this is a big splash. Fingers crossed Fox finds a jumper.
