No it's not irrelevant. In about 6 months this board will be all aflutter with highlights of top 5 draft prospects accompanied by a lot of moaning about how we need to tank for real to get a generational talent like that. I doubt any of them will put together a game as impressive as that one in the tournament this year. If I showed you a guy in this upcoming draft who could do that, you would 100% want him on this team. He's four years into his career and has improved every single year. He's been top 20 in scoring in the NBA for the last 3 seasons and nobody wins in this league without a top 20 scorer. The problem has always been and will continue to be that we give up more points than we score on a nightly basis. No superstar is fixing that because it takes a team effort to defend in the NBA.
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Fox is in his 5th year in the NBA actually, and has been handed the keys for the majority of his time here.
He hasn’t developed a reliable three-point shot and he’s a net-negative defender.
Opposing teams aren’t exactly quaking in their shoes when he has the ball in crunch time.
Quit with the excuses - Fox is what he is at this point, which is a talented NBA player that is not worthy of being a foundational piece.
He’s not talented or tough enough to be anything more than that, but more notably - he doesn’t have the heart of a champion and he never will.
History will prove me right - just watch.
Merry Christmas.
He hasn’t developed a reliable three-point shot and he’s a net-negative defender.
Opposing teams aren’t exactly quaking in their shoes when he has the ball in crunch time.
Quit with the excuses - Fox is what he is at this point, which is a talented NBA player that is not worthy of being a foundational piece.
He’s not talented or tough enough to be anything more than that, but more notably - he doesn’t have the heart of a champion and he never will.
History will prove me right - just watch.
Merry Christmas.
Don’t be upset with me, be angry with yourself that you believed in a player that will never be anything more than what you see from him right now - good scorer but not consistently efficient, subpar defender, and does nothing to elevate this Kings team beyond irrelevant status.
Time to wake up, skippy - Vlade’s shared pipe dream is over.
Time to wake up, skippy - Vlade’s shared pipe dream is over.
Oh I'm not upset. I think this is hilarious. Especially the last bit about history proving you right. It seems to me like you're partaking a bit from your own supply if you catch my meaning. It's cool though, we've all been there at one time or another. I've certainly made more than a few embarrassing prognostications in my time here. History ultimately makes fools of us all if we live long enough. Merry Christmas to you too! 
hali has been scoring lately but in watching it. He is having to throw out massive amounts of effort to score. his assist seem fluid and easy to him. his scoring takes 100% effort comapared to Fox scoring the same on what looks to be minimal effort. If only fox asserted as much effort as Hali. Then we might have something. Hali's scoring just seems like he can't keep that up consistently.
I have seen a decent amount of Holmgren. I rate him somewhere between Skal to Markannen to Pau Gasol. His body reminds me of a young Gasol and his game as well (with more emphasis on the perimeter given where the league has gone). He ends up being a 5 when his body feels out. Is he top 5 lottery pick? Yes. Do I rate him as a star? I don't see that.
Smith Jr. Intriguing tools at 6'9ish, decent handle, decent shot, plays the game the right way. Squint hard enough and there's some KD, MPJ there.
Banchero. Modern day three. Best handle between Smith Jr, Holmgren, and himself. Somewhere between Jabari Parker to Paul George to Jayson Tatum.
Holmgren. See above.
Haven't watched others. Will do so.
Smith Jr. Intriguing tools at 6'9ish, decent handle, decent shot, plays the game the right way. Squint hard enough and there's some KD, MPJ there.
Banchero. Modern day three. Best handle between Smith Jr, Holmgren, and himself. Somewhere between Jabari Parker to Paul George to Jayson Tatum.
Holmgren. See above.
Haven't watched others. Will do so.
Oh I'm not upset. I think this is hilarious. Especially the last bit about history proving you right. It seems to me like you're partaking a bit from your own supply if you catch my meaning. It's cool though, we've all been there at one time or another. I've certainly made more than a few embarrassing prognostications in my time here. History ultimately makes fools of us all if we live long enough. Merry Christmas to you too!
Skill wise, no concern. Looks like an incredible modern 5 with a dynamic skill-set. I am worried about his frame being able to add weight and what happens when he has to defend Jokic/Embiid/KAT/Gobert/Nurk type of physicality in the post. I think that's the only thing keeping him from being a star/franchise cornerstone player.
Yeah, at the risk of turning this into a draft thread (there's an entire forum devoted to draft prospects further down KingsFans.com!), Chet has all the skills and talent you could possibly want from a modern NBA big plus more (he's pretty much New York Porzingis in that regard), has great intangibles, and plays hard on both ends of the court but the way he's built physically just scares me. I look at his shoulders and narrow hips and just can't figure out how he's going to be able to add weight without throwing off his biomechanics.
Ty Haliburton is currently leading his entire rookie class in Win Shares. It doesn't hurt that LaMelo and AntMan have both missed a lot of games with injuries but even so, nabbing Haliburton in the late lottery was a massive steal for McNair.
