[Game] Kings @ Jazz, 11/02/21 6pm Pacific 9pm Eastern

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Tetsujin

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It's the first official "Oh crap! I forgot to write a game thread!" Game Thread of the season!

Awards Time
Tony Delk Memorial Award -
Frank Ntilikina. Back in 2017, there were some who suggested taking Frankie Smokes with the pick that would eventually become De'Aaron Fox. While that thankfully never happened, Frank has had a bit of a rough start to his career, as his offensive deficiencies were never really quite masked enough by his strong defensive skills. Against the Kings as a Mav, however, Frank played like an offense-first spitfire, scoring on Davion Mitchell several times and hitting perimeter jumpers like that's something he's actually good at.

Cory Joseph Award - Moe Harkless. Zero or two point nights are fine when you're contributing by playing strong defense or providing hustle plays on both ends of the floor. Moe didn't really do any of that. Charged with guarding Luka all game, Moe alternated between playing Luka too close and playing him too loose to the point that it was actually affecting how his teammates played defense. On offense, at least he didn't keep shooting?

Luke Walton Vacuum Cleaner Award - Whoever was in charge of all the shooting.

Willie Cauley-Stein Unicorn Award- Willie has perhaps benefitted the most from Jason Kidd's appointment as head coach of the Mavs, going from oft-unused fourth string center to randomly playing a bigger role in the Mavs system than Boban for some reason. In true Willie fashion, he had his usual mix of soft rim protection and emphatic offensive plays. He also collected six rebounds, which I have to assume is close to his career high. Who needs Porzingis when you've got the real unicorn?!

WTF Moment of the Game - The Mavs take Luka out at the end of the third quarter of a tight game and precede to push the lead up to double-digits against our starters.


+++Game 7+++
Kings vs. Jazz

The Jazz have the best record in the league and we get to play them for the second time in two weeks as the schedule makers continue to punish the Kings for simply existing.

Last time, at the home opener in Golden One Center, the Kings managed to keep the game close until the very end of the game on the back of stout D. Mitchell on D. Mitchell defense. Can they go the distance and pull it off tonight?

The Jazz are still missing Rudy Gay, who is recovering from heel surgery, but aside from that look to be completely healthy coming into the game. The Kings on the other hand are coached by Luke Walton.

Matchups
Richaun Holmes vs. Rudy Gobert
- Holmes got in major foul trouble last time he faced Gobert but managed to score enough in his time on the court that this matchup wasn't a total blowout. Hopefully this time the refs can swallow their whistles and Richaun can punish Gobert for dropping off of him. Advantage: Gobert.
Maurice Harkless vs. Bojan Bogdanovic - Moe missed the last matchup but is presumably going to play. Ironically, his typical zero point, five rebound performance would still be better than what Terence Davis contributed in that game. Advantage: Bogdanovic.
Harrison Barnes vs. Royce O'Neale - Board Beast Barnes made his first appearance against the Jazz in the game at Golden One and Barnes is coming off of his worst game in the season in which he failed to make almost all of his outside shots. I'm hoping for a bounce back game from Black Falcon tonight. Advantage: Barnes.
Tyrese Haliburton vs. Donovan Mitchell - Tyrese needs to be more aggressive. He's also probably not going to spend much time being directly matched up against Mitchell since the Kings have been trying to hide Haliburton on the other team's worst player over the last couple of games. The only way the Kings do pull this one off is if they get aggressive Tyrese. Not impossible but he hasn't shown it too much this season. Advantage: Spida Mitchell.
De'Aaron Fox vs. Mike Conley - Fox is in a funk. KingsFans.com is at his throat. His shooting splits are down across the board. Not great from your star player but it's also not like we're putting him in the best position to build momentum and get out of it. Hopefully Luke gets out of his own way and starts running pick and rolls again but until then it's hard to see anyone on this team aside from Barnes really playing to their full potential. That said, oddly passive, shot-missing Fox is still better than older Conley. Advantage: Fox.
Kings Bench vs. Jazz Band - Last time, the Kings had the advantage of Joe Ingles undercutting Davion Mitchell on a dunk attempt and getting ejected super early in the game but I don't think we can count on that happening again. Davion showed us how good of a defender he is in the first Jazz meeting and I expect the Jazz to adjust with various looks to get him knocked off of their ballhandlers. Elsewhere, Hassan absolutely murdered us in the first matchup but I'm not sure that'll happen again either. Advantage: Jazz.

Final Predictions: The Jazz are a very good team and it feels like the Kings lost an opportunity to steal a win when they couldn't close the deal against them in Golden One. While I'm not sure it'll be a blowout, I have a hard time seeing the Kings pulling this one off. On the plus side, after this game, the Kings' schedule lightens up considerably.
Jazz 121, Kings 109
 
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The_Jamal

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who the funk gave us this early season schedule?

Warriors are fixed and likely gonna be a top 5 West team: Once

Jazz are probably the best team in the NBA: Twice

Suns Western Conference Champs, on the road: Once

Mavs on the road, early matinee game, 5th seed in the west last year: Once

Blazers on the road, 6th seed last year: Once

We've had to have had the hardest SOS to start the year. It'll be mightily impressive to get to 4-3, especially with our best player struggling.
 
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Captain Obvious sez: Kings will need to play both hard and well to have a solid chance of beating the Jazz. 6 games in, they haven't always played hard and often haven't played well. Take a look at their 3-pt shooting.

Vs. Blazers: 17/41 from 3 = 42% (WIN)

Vs. Jazz: 8/36 = 22% (LOSS)

Vs. Warriors: 15-46 = 33% (LOSS)

Vs. Suns: 15-38 = 40% (WIN)

Vs. Pels: 9-27 = 33% (WIN)

Vs. Mavs: 7-36 = 19% (LOSS)

So, yeah - when they shoot well, they win (Blazers, Suns).

When they shoot terribly, they lose (Jazz, Mavs).

And when their shooting is mediocre, it can go either way (Warriors, Pels).

Overall, Kings are shooting 32% from 3, which ranks 22nd out of 30 teams. Last year they shot 36.4%, which was 17th. They were also on the low end in terms of 3's taken last year (33.3 - 19th); now they're above average (37 per game - 12th). The combo of taking many and making few obviously not good. Given the closeness of the games, just a little regression to the mean for the Kings would go a long way.

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Kingster

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The only way they win is if Fox regains All Star form. And what better opponent to do it against than Conley, who he routinely has abused. I've been waiting for 30+ points off of 20 shots, 7 rebounds, 9 assists, 3 steals, 1 block and otherwise stellar defensive game from Fox. When will we see it? This game? 5 games from now? 10 games? This season? Ever? As Fox goes, so goes this game and so goes the season.
 

gunks

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Yeah we really need Fox to play up to expectations. He’s way better than this.

And Hali needs to launch (and make 3s) if he’s starting with Fox.

Expecting an L tonight, but I’ll be happy with a competitive game and return to form from Fox. Still want that W though!!
 

The_Jamal

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Positive regression will hit at some point. Fox, Hali, T Davis, Harkless and Mitchell aren't going to keep shooting this poorly for the whole season and Barnes won't shoot this well over the course of the whole season. That's another reason to be optimistic; 5/7 of our spacers simply can't keep shooting this poorly.
 
#9
Dear God, i had no idea we were @ Utah today. Wtf? This schedule is AWFUL! The Lakers wouldn’t have won a single game if they had our opening schedule. I guess the league is well aware of this. I’d love for the Kings to take on the Thunder and Rockets back to back. Must be a nice extra preseason for that old brittle team down in LA, although OKC handed them their butts recently.

Knowing the Kings, they’ll make this game a competitive and interesting one and maybe even do the “impossible” and come out victorious. I never presume to know a damn thing when it comes to this squad, no matter who’s on the court or what year it is lol GO KINGS!!!
 
#10
When did Fox have Covid? Maybe the sub par play of Fox and some other “stars” is related to brain fog and other symptoms that sometimes hang on for months after officially getting over the virus. And then there are the rule changes which seem to be affecting a good number of NBA stars who now have to adapt their games. But Fox never got the calls! Hard to see how the rule changes are causing Fox to play like an aging vet.
 

SacTownKid

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Kind of a big game here. End of a road trip? Yes, but it wasn't at all a brutal one. Walton needs to treat this game as a bit of a desperation one and cut the garbage and come out with a real gameplan. This could be a huge win early in a season with where this team is at.
 
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Kind of a big game here. End of a road trip? Yes, but it wasn't at all a brutal one. Walton needs to treat this game as a bit of a desperation one and cut the garbage and come out with a real gameplan. This could be a huge win early in a season with where this team is at.
like the optimism but my guess is we getting blown out for the first time this season
 
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Likely not a popular opinion here, but I would like to see Bagley get some minutes.

TD has been quite bad, Moe not very useful, and Barnes, while great, is playing very heavy minutes. There is of course the issue of how you replace the minutes of TD/Moe with Bagley, since they don't play the same position, and some imbalance that might cause. While true, I do hope we can figure something out to buy him some time.

The team has been struggling offensively, and Bagley can help there. Moreover, his trade value is pretty much zero now. If he plays okay, we can hopefully get at least something for him.

I can hear the complaints about defense, ball stopping, cluttered middle, etc. However, we need to get more offense from somewhere, reduce minutes for Barnes, likely eliminate minutes for TD, and hopefully increase Bagley's value around the league. All these boxes can get checked by giving him some time.
 

SacTownKid

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Buddy gets a lot of flack around here, but he is an Ironman and that goes in part because how well he takes care of his body so something has to give here
And it goes underappreciated how so much of the wasted movement in Waltons offense gets placed squarely on his shoulders. So much pointless running around screens haha.
 
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