[Game] Kings vs. Nuggets, 2/6/21, 2pm PST, 5pm EST

[New Era]

Hield is in a dryp patch right now, but I think he will find it, and he's finding ways to contribute not shooting......I dont know if I'd trade Hield and Bagley for Beal......Bagley is a wild card - its a bit of a gamble as Bagley is still so young. In the short timeframe it sounds like a good trade, but a gamble on the medium to long term. Walton seems content to cut Bagley development minutes more as the Kings are winning without him.

Beal averages like 33/5/5. You don't even think twice about making that deal. You do that and you have a Fox/Beal backcourt, with Rese, Holmes, Bagley....and then add some complimentary players and call it a day.

 

[iowamcnabb]

Hassan, IT, and Ben Mclemore all were all draft picks derided by parts of the fanbase, and went on to improve their stock elsewhere (interestingly, they were all picked in nearly contiguous years; a dubious era.)

IT is a good example but Hassan was out of the league after he left the Kings and Ben didn't become serviceable until his 5th or 6th year.

Bagley has a higher ceiling than all of those players and I'm sure Monte knows that. He has team control over him for awhile and still has plenty of time to evaluate his growth before deciding to ship him off or commit long term.

 

[Woot!]

I agree with you that trading Bagley in a rush would be ill advised. The only way I move Bagley to better position ourselves for a run this year is for a Vucevic or Randle type player.

However I am totally on board with just making the playoffs. 14 straight years of the lottery, I don’t think we need to worry about messing up our shot at a championship.

One or two more draft pieces, a defensive role player free agent and continued development of Fox and Ty and we have a competitive team for years to come

To be clear: for the Kings, the value of making the playoffs isn't just about ending that drought and moral victories. It's about being attractive to free agents. Sacramento will never be able to compete w/LA, NY, and a few others as destination cities for players who weigh the opportunities those places offer heavily. But it could offer a team where a young all-star-caliber free agent can see himself as the last major piece to a perennial playoff team and maybe more.

Fox is shaping up as at least a strong #2 on a championship team. Haliburton is a very legit ROTY contender, pass-first, clutch-gene kid who will only get better. They are 23 and 20, seem like fantastic teammates, and guaranteed to be in Sacramento for several more years. Add HB and/or Holmes - AND MAKE THE PLAYOFFS - and maybe, just maybe, prospective future teammates start giving the Kings a serious look.

 

[joemama]

I like Frank Ntilikina but apparently the Knicks are thinking about shipping him out for Derrick Rose.

I have seen it's Dennis Smith Jr and a 2nd round pick.

 

[kingdivac]

Beal averages like 33/5/5. You don't even think twice about making that deal. You do that and you have a Fox/Beal backcourt, with Rese, Holmes, Bagley....and then add some complimentary players and call it a day.

??

The trade idea was for Bagley and Hield

 

[iowamcnabb]

I have seen it's Dennis Smith Jr and a 2nd round pick.

That would makes sense for the Pistons since they have no use for Rose.

 

[joemama]

That would makes sense for the Pistons since they have no use for Rose.

And D. Rose is reunited with Thibs.

 

[New Era]

??

The trade idea was for Bagley and Hield

Yes, I know. I'm saying you wouldn't even think twice on that trade. Bagley/Hield for Beal

 

[Rob-The-Great]

man, this is one of those moves that we were all sorta distraught about when it happened but Harry hasn’t exactly worked out well for the blazers even as every single other guy on that roster over 6’9” keeps getting injured.

Don't you dare talk about giles!

 

[ppine]

I don' care about anyone named Ball, Dort, McLemore or Beale. I don't want to talk about pizza or lasagne.
Especially not on a game thread.

 

[kingdivac]

Yes, I know. I'm saying you wouldn't even think twice on that trade. Bagley/Hield for Beal

Ok, fair enough.

I dont share the certainty, and would think twice about it. Bagley is still young and may improve a good deal. Hield is in a slump right now, but that may change. So, On the surface it seems like a fair trade, but you change team chemistry intra-season just when the team is starting to perform better together and finding some synergy. Then there's the contract side of it, that I haven't even looked at.

I dont think it will happen anyway.

 

[Woot!]

if Bagley makes a leap like Fox did whenever it may be while he is still under contract, then the Kings are a 50 win team and perennial Playoff team, it's simply a matter of does Monte have the patience to wait it out and see it come to fruition.

Obvious point, but the word there is the first one: IF.

 

[kingsboi]

Obvious point, but the word there is the first one: IF.

which is where the word patience comes into play here, which I think is necessary for Marvin