Free Agency Open Thread (NBA and Kings!)

[lwc]

George Hill signs a three-year $57 million dollar contract with the Sacramento Kings

Edit: the third year is a partial guarantee

Just to make sure everyone has seen it the third year of the deal is a partial guarantee somewhat like what the Kings did with afflalo and Tolliver

 

[LoungeLizard]

George Hill signs a three-year $57 million dollar contract with the Sacramento Kings

Edit: the third year is a partial guarantee

Did not see that one coming. Seems like a lot of $ for Hill. He's pretty good when healthy. Missed a lot of time last year for the Jazz.

 

[206Fan]

but why? I think Hill is a very good vet PG, but I think Fox is one of the rookies who would be ready to take over the reigns day 1.

 

[biltalent]

We are signing both Hill and Zach Randolph per Woj!

 

[jpsls]

I love this move. Perfect player for Joeger's system and if the 3rd year is partial, even better.

 

[LoungeLizard]

but why? I think Hill is a very good vet PG, but I think Fox is one of the rookies who would be ready to take over the reigns day 1.

Yep, agreed. With Hill on board and Joegers history with the rookies, this could drastically cut down Fox 's minutes.

 

[Hoovtrain]

Free agent Zach Randolph has agreed to a two-year, $24M deal with the Kings, league sources tell ESPN.
4 minutes ago · Twitter

This is Woj twitter FYI

 

[biltalent]

With Zbo amd Hill we dont have the room for porter anymore, unless we are shedding salary.

 

[Kingsfan23]

With Zbo amd Hill we dont have the room for porter anymore, unless we are shedding salary.

Or sign and trade

 

[kingdivac]

their window was closed before it even opened

They had a few seasons as a top 5 team - but too inconsistent and injuries to different players.

 

[206Fan]

All I hope is that these signings don't linger the development and PT of our young guys. Great leadership though

 

[ockingsfan]

With Zbo amd Hill we dont have the room for porter anymore, unless we are shedding salary.

Maybe the Kings were informed porter is signing somewhere else?

 

[LoungeLizard]

We are signing both Hill and Zach Randolph per Woj!

Some early fireworks on the 4th of July!!

 

[biltalent]

Or sign and trade

Wonder if Koufos goes back to Mem? Then we'd have the space for Porter again I think.

 

[joemama]

Jason Jones @mr_jasonjones
yesterday
The more people I speak with, Zach Randolph to the Kings sounds more and more unlikely. Cleveland very interested in Randolph

This was the moment i knew we were getting zbo

 

[LoungeLizard]

Maybe the Kings were informed porter is signing somewhere else?

This was my thought as well.

 

[LoungeLizard]

Jason Jones @mr_jasonjones
yesterday
The more people I speak with, Zach Randolph to the Kings sounds more and more unlikely. Cleveland very interested in Randolph

This was the moment i knew we were getting zbo

That guy is a joke.

 

[joemama]

Hill>>>collison

 

[Mass]

Yep, agreed. With Hill on board and Joegers history with the rookies, this could drastically cut down Fox 's minutes.

Maybe we should just trust our coach and coaching stuff. I'm pretty sure they know how to manage rookies. They did a pretty good job last year if I remember well. Fox is 19. I think it's just great if he can learn from a true pro like Hill for a couple of years, getting his 18-20 mins per game and be ready to take over when he's 21.

I love these moves! Great veterans added to the team, and especially Hill a guy who is one of the best free agents this summer. Amazon we could get him, I'm sure the wind is changing.

 

[kingdivac]

Nice!

Hill had a nagging injury into the playoffs - hopefully he's healed. I still would've liked Lawson - that's gone; I can't think they're gonna start Hill over Fox. Hill is a good shooter and decent playmaker. He's a steady hand on offense.

 

[kingdivac]

Hill>>>collison

No, Hill > Collison

 

[steelevt]

We are signing both Hill and Zach Randolph per Woj!

It's so different with vlade. Brings back memories of Petrie. I did not see the hill signing at all. Saw him visiting other teams like minny or lakers and maybe a blurb with our name tossed in with a bunch of others that might need him. Randolph I saw we were interested in also but didn't see any meetings and the Jason jones tweet about it being unlikely. Part of me likes reading rumors of us linked to free agents but part of me like how vlade is keeping his fo in check with less leaks

 

[steelevt]

Hill had a nagging injury into the playoffs - hopefully he's healed. I still would've liked Lawson - that's gone; I can't think they're gonna start Hill over Fox. Hill is a good shooter and decent playmaker. He's a steady hand on offense.

My preference was a really good sf then vet pf and pg that will mentor the rooks but won't mind taking a back seat. Like others I wonder how this effects porter

 

[LoungeLizard]

Maybe we should just trust our coach and coaching stuff. I'm pretty sure they know how to manage rookies. They did a pretty good job last year if I remember well. Fox is 19. I think it's just great if he can learn from a true pro like Hill for a couple of years, getting his 18-20 mins per game and be ready to take over when he's 21.

I love these moves! Great veterans added to the team, and especially Hill a guy who is one of the best free agents this summer. Amazon we could get him, I'm sure the wind is changing.

Oh, don't get me wrong. I really like the signing. I'm just really high on Fox. I would love to see him get 30 min a night, trial by fire you know. That's the fan in me, the rational side of me sees this as better in the long run, learn behind Hill, step up for injuries and be ready to take the reigns in a couple years.

 

[Entity]

Sign and trade Rudy gay for Otto we absorb the difference in $

 

[Fear the Putin]

With Zbo amd Hill we dont have the room for porter anymore, unless we are shedding salary.

Depends how the contracts are structured. If with 5% raises, I think enough room for otto

 

[biltalent]

Maybe we should just trust our coach and coaching stuff. I'm pretty sure they know how to manage rookies. They did a pretty good job last year if I remember well. Fox is 19. I think it's just great if he can learn from a true pro like Hill for a couple of years, getting his 18-20 mins per game and be ready to take over when he's 21.

I love these moves! Great veterans added to the team, and especially Hill a guy who is one of the best free agents this summer. Amazon we could get him, I'm sure the wind is changing.

Agree. Also, Hill just played about 50 games last season. He is injury prone and will miss games again, opening up more time for Fox. And not to forget, he can play with Fox as well.

As I said before, the West has gotten so brutal that you can just throw Fox and company to the wolves. They would get eaten alive. Make them earn their minutes against backups and protect their confidence.

 

[Jkbiker]

so if porter has not signed the offer sheet can we pull the offer and offer 16 mil to Bojan?

 

[steelevt]

Sign and trade Rudy gay for Otto we absorb the difference in $

Back from your shower?

 

[Folsomkingsfan]

Can't hate the move. I know we all wanted to see fox play 40 minutes a game a game and so on. But throwing rookies into the gauntlet immediately usually always leads them to develop poor habits that they don't shake during their careers. Fox is lightning fast, but with a shaky jump shot I could see him forcing a ton of bad possessions simply by getting out of control or running into double teams or traps. Hill is as good of a mentor as there is when healthy and was a hot commodity around the league. Assuming he plays great this year we should have no trouble trading him at the deadline next year and giving fox full control with a year of kinks worked out.