Only DeMarcus Cousins trade rumor thread
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The timing probably could not have been any worse either, no games for 4 days guess what every sports show is going to lead with? How dumb Vivek/Vlade and the kings are, thats going to leave a nice impression on the mediocre free agents that might have given us a look.
Vivek has refrained from hiring a competent GM from the start, he only hires rookies who are basically yes men. No reason to not go out and grab Hinkie right now except Viveks giant ego.
Vivek is hell bent on finding his own Steph and Klay so he can brag to his silicon valley buddies.
This is not much better than the Maloof days
Vivek has refrained from hiring a competent GM from the start, he only hires rookies who are basically yes men. No reason to not go out and grab Hinkie right now except Viveks giant ego.
Vivek is hell bent on finding his own Steph and Klay so he can brag to his silicon valley buddies.
This is not much better than the Maloof days
Bear with me because I haven't followed any of the news this weekend until now and until 10 minutes ago I thought there was no chance we were trading DeMarcus Cousins to anyone. The return itself doesn't really matter. I couldn't care less about Hield. He's a guy I never would have drafted but then that's pretty much par for the course with this team. I have no hopes for the picks this year either. It's possible we luck into somebody good but that's all it would be, luck, because it's quite obvious nobody in this front office has a clue what they're doing.
Don't kid yourselves, this is 100% about the money. Vivek didn't want to invest the $200+ million it was going to take to retain DeMarcus so he had to go for table scraps. If it wasn't already obvious, it should be by now. This team isn't interested in winning. It never has been, frankly. It's a small market club in business to cash in on our loyalty to the game and our willingness to invest our time and money in supporting a professional team in any sport. All the sycophants hanging around the fringes are just there to soak up their share. It should be pretty obvious who these people are. They'll be the ones explaining how this move makes us a better basketball team.
So where to from here? Everyone has to decide that for themselves. I'm not rooting for the Pelicans though I wish DeMarcus well. Maybe Boogie and the Brow can dismantle Golden State for all of us and end the chuck happy 3pt era. Little good that'll do us considering we now have no frontcourt, but I'll at least welcome a return to sanity and a balanced inside/outside game. I'm pretty much where I've always been -- on the outside looking in. Doomed to follow a basketball team that I have 0 percent respect for. Oh yeah, I mean that whole-heartedly. Everything about this franchise (except the new arena) is second rate. They cut cornes at every turn and the result is a team that exists to sell tickets and parade around young players who are biding their time until they can sign with a better team. Loyalty goes both ways and we've just proven to every player and agent that we have none. Why would they sign a long-term deal here?
I don't care to speculate anymore about who will or won't be on the roster. It's pointless if they're just going to throw away every asset we have. I tried to warn people this summer that we were moving backwards, that we had no long-term plan to speak of, that Vivek is a serious problem and not getting better. I never thought they would actually settle for a Cousins trade that doesn't even rise to meet the level of laughable. But I suppose the general impression they've given off is so bad already that they can't actually make our reputation any worse. So here's what I am hoping for: sooner or later Vivek is going to get bored with his new toy. Nobody in India is going to get excited about watching a team that even hardcore basketball junkies don't want to watch. Vivek doesn't even seem to like basketball very much himself. He likes winning and he's just ensured that there won't be much of that around here any time soon.
My advice? This team is not worth worrying about any longer, so don't. Keep going to the games if you want. Your fellow fans are in the same boat and most of them are pretty good people with interesting experiences to share. The players always deserve our respect when they play hard and the beauty of this game is that you could always witness something spectacular from any player, and it's that much more special when it's unexpected. The college game is well worth watching as well, especially if you're interested in who the superstars of the NBA are going to be in 5-10 years. Anyone who wants to tap out for good, I totally understand. I'd pick a new team if I could but it's just not in my DNA. The NBA itself didn't change today though. If you're a fan of basketball, there will still be good basketball to watch. Somewhere.
Don't kid yourselves, this is 100% about the money. Vivek didn't want to invest the $200+ million it was going to take to retain DeMarcus so he had to go for table scraps. If it wasn't already obvious, it should be by now. This team isn't interested in winning. It never has been, frankly. It's a small market club in business to cash in on our loyalty to the game and our willingness to invest our time and money in supporting a professional team in any sport. All the sycophants hanging around the fringes are just there to soak up their share. It should be pretty obvious who these people are. They'll be the ones explaining how this move makes us a better basketball team.
So where to from here? Everyone has to decide that for themselves. I'm not rooting for the Pelicans though I wish DeMarcus well. Maybe Boogie and the Brow can dismantle Golden State for all of us and end the chuck happy 3pt era. Little good that'll do us considering we now have no frontcourt, but I'll at least welcome a return to sanity and a balanced inside/outside game. I'm pretty much where I've always been -- on the outside looking in. Doomed to follow a basketball team that I have 0 percent respect for. Oh yeah, I mean that whole-heartedly. Everything about this franchise (except the new arena) is second rate. They cut cornes at every turn and the result is a team that exists to sell tickets and parade around young players who are biding their time until they can sign with a better team. Loyalty goes both ways and we've just proven to every player and agent that we have none. Why would they sign a long-term deal here?
I don't care to speculate anymore about who will or won't be on the roster. It's pointless if they're just going to throw away every asset we have. I tried to warn people this summer that we were moving backwards, that we had no long-term plan to speak of, that Vivek is a serious problem and not getting better. I never thought they would actually settle for a Cousins trade that doesn't even rise to meet the level of laughable. But I suppose the general impression they've given off is so bad already that they can't actually make our reputation any worse. So here's what I am hoping for: sooner or later Vivek is going to get bored with his new toy. Nobody in India is going to get excited about watching a team that even hardcore basketball junkies don't want to watch. Vivek doesn't even seem to like basketball very much himself. He likes winning and he's just ensured that there won't be much of that around here any time soon.
My advice? This team is not worth worrying about any longer, so don't. Keep going to the games if you want. Your fellow fans are in the same boat and most of them are pretty good people with interesting experiences to share. The players always deserve our respect when they play hard and the beauty of this game is that you could always witness something spectacular from any player, and it's that much more special when it's unexpected. The college game is well worth watching as well, especially if you're interested in who the superstars of the NBA are going to be in 5-10 years. Anyone who wants to tap out for good, I totally understand. I'd pick a new team if I could but it's just not in my DNA. The NBA itself didn't change today though. If you're a fan of basketball, there will still be good basketball to watch. Somewhere.
We could have gotten so much more if we had SIGNED HIM TO AN EXTENSION this offseason, and THEN traded him.
I'm just astounded at the incompetence here. I really had been pretty happy with Vlade, but I think he just got eaten alive on this deal. Somehow he bought into the fact that the market just wasn't there for Cousins. Which is of course exactly what every other owner wants you to think. And maybe it wasn't, for what was perceived to be a Cousins rental. But a sign d Cousins? Are you kidding me? Especially after the fight this team was showing?
I mean, ok, you want to trade him, and I highly disagree with that. But for the love of Naismith be smart about it.
We could have gotten a number one draft pick for Cousins. And then some. We could have turned it into multiple high first round picks.
What the hell was the rush to trade him this year?
I'm just astounded at the incompetence here. I really had been pretty happy with Vlade, but I think he just got eaten alive on this deal. Somehow he bought into the fact that the market just wasn't there for Cousins. Which is of course exactly what every other owner wants you to think. And maybe it wasn't, for what was perceived to be a Cousins rental. But a sign d Cousins? Are you kidding me? Especially after the fight this team was showing?
I mean, ok, you want to trade him, and I highly disagree with that. But for the love of Naismith be smart about it.
We could have gotten a number one draft pick for Cousins. And then some. We could have turned it into multiple high first round picks.
What the hell was the rush to trade him this year?
K
I can't understand why we would waive Galloway (well I can't understand the trade but), he's a combo guard who can play both ends why would he be getting waived? He's a on decent contract also why make it even worse?
Also who is going to be the new face of the Kingsforum banner now that Cousins is not here?
Also who is going to be the new face of the Kingsforum banner now that Cousins is not here?
1. I have to give credit to all posters, who kept criticizing Vlade without getting too emotional, when the majority of users backfired on them. You guys were right. Vlade goes down as one of the worst GM's in league history and as Viveks PR coup to keep the fanbase quiet. All the talk how Vlade is real or about trust or has peoples skills just looks like a very bad joke now. He absolutely and in the worst manner possible backstabbed one of the most talented players of the league. All the talk about a changing culture and how this culture will make us more attractive to FA's feels so crooked now, that I simply want to throw up. Vlade and Vivek just destroyed any credibility they had left and FA's will absolutely consider the DMC backstabbing, when negotiating with the Kings. Not only did he pull the chair under DMC, he pulled the chair under the whole team fighting like mad for a Playoff spot and he pulled the chair under Joerger, who didn't want to coach a rebuild and was happy, that SAC had the main pieces in place. Now Joerger is forced to coach a rebuild or is the next guy, who gets canned.
Vlade couldn't find any trades to make the team around DMC better. He screwed up the FA signings beyond believe and now he traded DMC (and it doesn't matter at all if Vivek forced his hand, if you trade him you have to get a better return than Buddy Hield and a protected first rounder).
2. Our offseason makes an aweful lot more sense now. We basically drafted a possible DMC replacement in Papa and already stockpiled young players to go full tank mode for the next seasons. Willie's emergence also helped the cause. Like Detroit with Drummond we didn't believe it's possible to win with a slow true big man, who will get attacked in the pick&roll. What Vlade and Vivek did, was to keep DMC long enough to get the season ticket subscribers in the Golden 1 center. Now we will follow the Warriors blueprint with Willie as the low usage rim runner in the middle. The true joke is, that Vlade managed to screw up this laughable plan already with his Philly deal, whcih basically proves he got no clue, what he is doing out there.
But from here on out it's uptempo basketball with lots of 3 point shots in SAC. Of course because we are the #Kangz that's with a coach known for slow, defense first, big man basketball.
3. With the new plan clearly visible I ask myself, why I should continue to follow this franchise. If I want to watch just another Warriors clone I can simply watch the Blazers or Celtics. What made SAC so appealing to me was it's history, my own cherished memories of the early 2000's and the fact, that they had the guy on the roster, that felt like the last true loyal "one career, one team, against all odds" kind of star. A big guy of the mold of the 90's. I wanted this team to succeed with DMC so bad, because I wanted to watch one of those great american "from zero to hero storys", that give people around the globe so much hope. I know to feel that way is childish and naive, but what's fandom without a little naivete?
4. I feel bad for DMC. He must be furious and all those cheap excuses how the NBA is a business get old fast. Not only did he get backstabbed by people he showed nothing but loyalty - he also got traded to just another bad situation for him. I will watch the Pelicans closely, but I don't expect this to work. As far as I know Alvin Gentry is one of the worst coaches possible for DMC. And until proven the opposite I'm still not a believer in a two big man approach. This can end really bad for DMC.
Vlade couldn't find any trades to make the team around DMC better. He screwed up the FA signings beyond believe and now he traded DMC (and it doesn't matter at all if Vivek forced his hand, if you trade him you have to get a better return than Buddy Hield and a protected first rounder).
2. Our offseason makes an aweful lot more sense now. We basically drafted a possible DMC replacement in Papa and already stockpiled young players to go full tank mode for the next seasons. Willie's emergence also helped the cause. Like Detroit with Drummond we didn't believe it's possible to win with a slow true big man, who will get attacked in the pick&roll. What Vlade and Vivek did, was to keep DMC long enough to get the season ticket subscribers in the Golden 1 center. Now we will follow the Warriors blueprint with Willie as the low usage rim runner in the middle. The true joke is, that Vlade managed to screw up this laughable plan already with his Philly deal, whcih basically proves he got no clue, what he is doing out there.
But from here on out it's uptempo basketball with lots of 3 point shots in SAC. Of course because we are the #Kangz that's with a coach known for slow, defense first, big man basketball.
3. With the new plan clearly visible I ask myself, why I should continue to follow this franchise. If I want to watch just another Warriors clone I can simply watch the Blazers or Celtics. What made SAC so appealing to me was it's history, my own cherished memories of the early 2000's and the fact, that they had the guy on the roster, that felt like the last true loyal "one career, one team, against all odds" kind of star. A big guy of the mold of the 90's. I wanted this team to succeed with DMC so bad, because I wanted to watch one of those great american "from zero to hero storys", that give people around the globe so much hope. I know to feel that way is childish and naive, but what's fandom without a little naivete?
4. I feel bad for DMC. He must be furious and all those cheap excuses how the NBA is a business get old fast. Not only did he get backstabbed by people he showed nothing but loyalty - he also got traded to just another bad situation for him. I will watch the Pelicans closely, but I don't expect this to work. As far as I know Alvin Gentry is one of the worst coaches possible for DMC. And until proven the opposite I'm still not a believer in a two big man approach. This can end really bad for DMC.
K
The Philly trade pretty much gave it away how awful Vlade was, aside from getting Joeger (who was on his way out and there was a ton of good coaches even if we didn't get him) the guy has been beyond trash at everything called it straight away. That package the Magic/Suns offered literally takes a massive dump on this one TJ Warren is like the same age as Hield and is better not to mention all the other goodies we could have got.
We probably could have got Drummond/Johnson for Cuz/Casspi
We probably could have got Drummond/Johnson for Cuz/Casspi
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