Trade deadline approaching for Kings
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I was just reading Royal Pain where one of their writers suggested Collison for Exum or Robinson111 and Koufos for Payne.
I know Payne has been mentioned lots in relation to Gay pre injury but is he worth Koufos? Exum is a player I really liked in 2014 but has had set backs and is not getting PT in Utah. Im not sure whats up with that but hes only 23 with some needed PG skills.
I know Payne has been mentioned lots in relation to Gay pre injury but is he worth Koufos? Exum is a player I really liked in 2014 but has had set backs and is not getting PT in Utah. Im not sure whats up with that but hes only 23 with some needed PG skills.
You draft guys like Exum based on some ballhandling and excellent speed for such a long player, hoping he improves his skills to become a force. Even though he's still under 22 y.o., you would expect some progress 3 years in. He certainly can't run the team, score in bunches or shoot. Defense is a plus, maybe even a big plus, though he looks slower than before the injury. So where does he fit, while you're working on his game? Players, who have to spend a lot of time without contact, usually work hard on their shooting, and there's seemingly no change; well, actually his FT percentage did improve significantly, but it's 29 out of 35 attempts, so can easily be a hot streak vs a cold streak as a rookie, when he went 20/32 from the line, but outside shot is not good as Exum is shooting less 3s and at a worse percentage, corner 3 is just as bad as from the wings or the top, and Exum is 4-9 on non-3 jumpshots in 700+ minutes he played.
Yeah....he would have to be paired with the right guys around him....I do like the thought of his defense if it has has held up. But while the Kings are going after the playoff spot.....seems like it would be tough to deal DC.....I think they could deal Koufos and get away with it.....you deal DC and you better have a ready PG to play with Ty while going after the playoff spot
i saw an article on bleacher report where we trade Rudy Gay and his most likely expiring contract with BMac and a couple of 2nd round picks to the Lakers for Luol Deng..
I'd do it in a heartbeat.. but maybe swap out BMac for Casspi because we could probably get more 2nd rounds picks back for BMac
PG- Collison/Lawson
SG - Temple/Afflalo/Richardson
SF- Deng/Barnes
PF - DMC/Tolliver/Skal
C - Koufos/WCS/Papa
I'd do it in a heartbeat.. but maybe swap out BMac for Casspi because we could probably get more 2nd rounds picks back for BMac
PG- Collison/Lawson
SG - Temple/Afflalo/Richardson
SF- Deng/Barnes
PF - DMC/Tolliver/Skal
C - Koufos/WCS/Papa
Im curious what Deng has left in the tank. He is almost 32, but putting up decent stats in limited minutes this year. He also is owed 18 mil a year for a few more years.
I would sure like to know if we will retain our draft pick and if so will it be a PG or SF that falls to us. That would help make up my mind as too whats the best target for our current players.
I would sure like to know if we will retain our draft pick and if so will it be a PG or SF that falls to us. That would help make up my mind as too whats the best target for our current players.
Yeah, hes had a slow start back from his foot injury but I'm still intrigued as well. The Royal Pain write up that I mentioned above proposes Payne for Kosta. With Kanter injured the writer thought OKC could use another big. Looking at Kostas finger not sure if hes not out now as well.
One way or another I hope to see a young promising PG on the Kings next year.
One way or another I hope to see a young promising PG on the Kings next year.
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The Thunder have Joffery/Adams/Grant/Sabonis they have zero need for KK and actually need a back up PG (which they have in Payne) since Semaja Christian currently is barely an NBA player. KK does not provide the Thunder with anything they don't have or need. The Thunder need a talented SF who can fill it up e.g Wilson Chandler/TJ Warren types.
When you are defended by Kyrie and Kay Felder, you better look really good, otherwise you don't belong in the NBA.
Payne runs the offense to the tune of 95 points per possession. That's Ramon Sessions (Kings version, Wizards' one was actually rather good) type of excellence. Yes, he's still only 22, but so far he hasn't shown, he can be even effective backup PG.
Undrafted rookie Andrew Harrison has the same stats, but runs the team at league average. He spent half his minutes as a starter, but that also means he competed against the starters.
Payne runs the offense to the tune of 95 points per possession. That's Ramon Sessions (Kings version, Wizards' one was actually rather good) type of excellence. Yes, he's still only 22, but so far he hasn't shown, he can be even effective backup PG.
Undrafted rookie Andrew Harrison has the same stats, but runs the team at league average. He spent half his minutes as a starter, but that also means he competed against the starters.
Agree, they also have Collison. Grant I believe is a SF. I figured maybe this Royal Pain writer assumed OKC wants to move Kanter and his rather large contract and perhaps Joffrey and Collison are not viewed as legit backup Bigs.
Kosta I recon has decent value for the right team. Im still interested in Payne but not sure if hes worth Kosta.
Kosta I recon has decent value for the right team. Im still interested in Payne but not sure if hes worth Kosta.
Not talking about immediate future, but Kings would do great to grab Chinanu Onuaku from Rockets. I wrote about him a bit during 2016 pre-draft: brother of former Syracuse center; unlike many guys, who stay a year in middle school, so that they are older/more physically mature than their competition, so they look more dominant, Onuaku came to college as 17 y.o. and looked extremely raw; as a sophomore he was a high impact player in ACC, and if he stayed for this year, he would probably be in consideration for NCAA POY; got drafted in the second round, because he's not a high-flier and being still 19 didn't have a high skill level; after working on his game during draft process and with Rockets/D-League trainers he continued to improve his game by leaps and bounds at times looking like this (you can see Papagiannis in some parts of the clip as well
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It's not just moments here and there. Here's his comparison to Skal's stint in D-League, who many is clamoring to give meaningful NBA time to:
-----------TS%----FT%----ASTratio---TOratio--USG%---OReb%---DReb%-------TeamOff.per100------------------TeamDef.per100
Nanu----.684----.716--------13.4--------20.1-----17.7------14.4--------24.7-----114.2(3rd on the team)------104.5(best on the team by a margin)
Skal-----.507----.708---------6.1---------13.5-----23.4------9.6--------17.2----97.7(tied w/Papa for worst)--109.1(3-way tie w/Papa for worst)
So Onuaku is a better finisher, rebounder, defender, passer. He even started shooting 3s already, which means he probably drains them in practice at a pretty decent clip. And btw Nanu is half a year younger than Skal.
Note: you can explain rebounding numbers in part by C vs PF; and bad shooting percentage from the floor is probably the result of team forcing Skal to work on his post moves, but those are mostly on 6'7", 215 guys, not sure, he'll see many of those in the big league. Skal is and will always be a more skilled player, but he plays the game like tall SF, and for that position Labissiere is very much underskilled. Meanwhile Onuaku looks well on his way to become a skilled and very physical PF/C.
):It's not just moments here and there. Here's his comparison to Skal's stint in D-League, who many is clamoring to give meaningful NBA time to:
-----------TS%----FT%----ASTratio---TOratio--USG%---OReb%---DReb%-------TeamOff.per100------------------TeamDef.per100
Nanu----.684----.716--------13.4--------20.1-----17.7------14.4--------24.7-----114.2(3rd on the team)------104.5(best on the team by a margin)
Skal-----.507----.708---------6.1---------13.5-----23.4------9.6--------17.2----97.7(tied w/Papa for worst)--109.1(3-way tie w/Papa for worst)
So Onuaku is a better finisher, rebounder, defender, passer. He even started shooting 3s already, which means he probably drains them in practice at a pretty decent clip. And btw Nanu is half a year younger than Skal.
Note: you can explain rebounding numbers in part by C vs PF; and bad shooting percentage from the floor is probably the result of team forcing Skal to work on his post moves, but those are mostly on 6'7", 215 guys, not sure, he'll see many of those in the big league. Skal is and will always be a more skilled player, but he plays the game like tall SF, and for that position Labissiere is very much underskilled. Meanwhile Onuaku looks well on his way to become a skilled and very physical PF/C.
I don't know much about him. He played at Louisville, front the clips maybe similar to fellow Louisville player Gorgui Dieng? I like Dieng. These are the type of players Kings should be looking for when possibly dealing at the deadline. Young guys buried on benches of other teams that are looking for veteran help.