Demarcus Cousins

Glenn

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Oh, there's more...but nothing as bad as I thought. He takes a shot at Vivek apparently which is pretty danged childish if you ask me.

I will not buy his book. I will not read his book. I'm done quoting people who have read his book. He took a boatload of money from our Kings for doing less than nothing and I almost feel sorry for how desperate this book makes him look. Notice I said "almost feel sorry..."
You sound bitter. :p
 
I wonder how many of us who decry DMC getting fouled 300 times a game were also laughing at Shaq when he said the same thing?

BTW- Shaq got fouled about 150,000 times more than DMC does (official stat)
You missed the past three years+ where I have repeatedly pointed out to members how absurdly inapplicable any comparisons between Shaq and Demarcus are.

Don't feel like repeating them.
 

SLAB

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And not so oddly, the naysayers won't comment on this. If Jeter had piled on and said something bad, it'd be mentioned as further evidence against him. But anything positive is ignored.
It'll only ever be discussed if it fits the narrative.

My take? DeMarcus a good guy? Pffft. Clearly he's bullying the diminutive guard (probably sans shirt again) from across oceans into posting these lies.
 
You missed the past three years+ where I have repeatedly pointed out to members how absurdly inapplicable any comparisons between Shaq and Demarcus are.

Don't feel like repeating them.
Yeah please don't. Based on our past interactions, I have a feeling we'd disagree. Something about one being a King and one being a Laker tends to sway logic
 
I don't think we should ever forget the impact that that Portland game is having around the league. He did it, he won, and he's basically flipped the script, and now people are liking him for the exact traits they were hating him for before. Now it's "He speaks his mind" rather than "He runs his mouth" or "The NBA needs old school guys with passion for game like Boogie has" rather than "He's immature".

This was always how Boogie was going to do this. He was never going to "change" the way some people wanted. But there is exactly ONE player in the league that is now positioned to become the new face of the league, and dare I say, media darling (once more winning comes). People LOVE a story of an embattled hero that fought against the odds (and the refs) to overcome and will his team to victory. It's all been a blessing in disguise that he's been treated this way. And it's better that he DOESN'T get the superstar treatment. Boogie has MAXIMUM legend potential, if he wins even just ONE ring here. He will be remembered for what he overcame and the flair and style with which he did it. And once we start making the playoffs, the Boogie Bandwagon is going to get very, very crowded.

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Tetsujin

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I don't think we should ever forget the impact that that Portland game is having around the league. He did it, he won, and he's basically flipped the script, and now people are liking him for the exact traits they were hating him for before. Now it's "He speaks his mind" rather than "He runs his mouth" or "The NBA needs old school guys with passion for game like Boogie has" rather than "He's immature".

This was always how Boogie was going to do this. He was never going to "change" the way some people wanted. But there is exactly ONE player in the league that is now positioned to become the new face of the league, and dare I say, media darling (once more winning comes). People LOVE a story of an embattled hero that fought against the odds (and the refs) to overcome and will his team to victory. It's all been a blessing in disguise that he's been treated this way. And it's better that he DOESN'T get the superstar treatment. Boogie has MAXIMUM legend potential, if he wins even just ONE ring here. He will be remembered for what he overcame and the flair and style with which he did it. And once we start making the playoffs, the Boogie Bandwagon is going to get very, very crowded.

This highlight reel with commentary from a famous youtuber has almost half a million views, and check out the comments below.


I immediately added that video on my favorites. I'll watch it whenever I'm feeling down
 
I'm sure Vivek said "Worth every penny to keep his trap closed.":)

Merry Christmas
Apparently, Karl's ego is big enough that he plans to add King bashing in the second edition. Me thinks he overestimates the number of people who want to read furious, finger pointing George.

He does realize he named his book after a cartoon monkey (technically an ape since he has no tail) doesn't he?
 
Apparently, Karl's ego is big enough that he plans to add King bashing in the second edition. Me thinks he overestimates the number of people who want to read furious, finger pointing George.

He does realize he named his book after a cartoon monkey (technically an ape since he has no tail) doesn't he?
I think that primate was in The Fast and the Curious :p
 
I don't know if they were the first to use it but in a very old Simpsons episode Mr Burns had a monkey named Furious George.

I don't think I've watched a new episode in maybe 8 seasons but it's crazy that show has been on the air almost 30 years.
Ahh, I don't watch the Simpsons but I used to read the children's book, "Curious George", which is super old. I'll bet the Simpsons were making a pun lol.
 

funkykingston

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Ahh, I don't watch the Simpsons but I used to read the children's book, "Curious George", which is super old. I'll bet the Simpsons were making a pun lol.
Oh, I know they were. In fact I think a punk band later named themselves after that reference. George Karl definitely didn't invent the pun.
 
Stop crying about DMC. He gets away with just as much physical behavior as his opponents do. He flails his arms/body just about every time he gets fouled and other players around him are constantly getting hit in the face and head by his arms and hands.

Also, it's "LOL" that you would complain about him not getting calls 2 days after he absolutely spit his mouthpiece at an opponent and got away with it. You realize if he was ejected, we probably lose that game, right? We wouldn't be talking about being tied for the 8th seed.
He also flails his arms when he does NOT get fouled. It is unconscious behavior more or less at this point where if he does not finish the play it MUST be foul (in his mind). But honestly this is something the team (and we as fans) has to live with given the way he has performed for most of the year.

I try to retain my objectivity and my standards of performance for him (and every player) and he has met them, with over 55% TS and better than 1.0 assist to turnover. He's never done this in his previous six seasons and this is winning efficiency, unlike his previous seasons.

There is a couple of other stats I want to mention RE: Boogie to emphasize the great year he is having, minus the occasional flying mouthpiece:

(1) Boogie's assisted baskets are ONLY 45% this year, and this after 55% last year with Rondo. This means he's creating his own offense when the opponent is geared to stop him. This shows what a relatively unstoppable force he is. This is also reflects the improvement in his conditioning and execution from previous seasons. He doesn't have Rondo anymore, but it doesn't matter.

(2) Boogie's rebounding is down to 11 RPG from 12-13 RPG from 2-4 seasons ago, but his defensive rebounding percentage is the same at 28%. His rebounding overall is lower because he's not going to the offensive boards as often. And this is intentional to get back in transition and function of playing a lot out on the perimeter. So there's has been NO drop off in his rebounding. It is more mater of strategy than lack of effort or execution.

Where does this leave us?

I think it should leave fans more comfortable with a 5 year max extension under the new CBA. At least I am more comfortable with his improved efficiency in the midst of "extracurricular" activity.

There are numerous factors that bode for Boogie to remain a King under the new CBA. If Boogie is traded between now and when his contract expires he is NOT eligible for the designated player extension, since the team that can offer it to him MUST have drafted him OR acquired him during his rookie contract. Since he is on his second contract, he would not be eligible for the designated player contract if traded to a new team.

The other pertinent variables per my cursory research are as follows:

  • 8% annual raise over 5 year deal with 35% of salary cap for qualifying player
  • Qualifying player must have made NBA All-Star team in year preceding sign of extension or in 2 out 3 preceding seasons
  • Player must be entering 8th or 9th season
  • Ineligible players cannot sign 5 year deal can only sign 4 year deal
  • Ineligible player not eligible for 8% annual raise only 5% annual raise
The terms of the designated player rule are tailor made for a guy like Boogie, who will easily make the All-Star team again, and even if he doesn't he is still eligible per my understanding since he made it the last two seasons.

Per projected salary cap in 2018-19 of 108 million, Boogie would be eligible for a starting salary of 35% of that number and 8% raises:

37.8
40.8
44.1
47.6
51.4

That's 5 years and 222 MILLION dollars!!!

The Kings might try to get him to "settle" for 5 years 200 million but I can see his agent playing hardball. We'll see.

By contrast if he leaves at the end of next season he can sign ONLY a 4-year deal with new team at 30% of the cap with 5% annual raises:

32.4
34.0
35.7
37.5

So if he wants to go play somewhere like Los Angeles or New York or Houston, the most he can get is 4 year and "ONLY" 140 million!

This difference is potentially over $80 million dollars in guaranteed money. Of course if you want to assume that Boogie would get that 5th year down the road elsewhere at near $45-50 million we are still talking about $25-30 million dollar difference and $80 million upfront.

The difference he stands to gain is gonna be almost IMPOSSIBLE to pass up unless Boogie is miserable in Sacramento and I don't think he is.

It needs to be emphasized that if Boogie is traded between now and extension deadline next season, he is NOT eligible for 5 year extension and 8% raises and 35% of the cap with the new team. This would make the acquiring team less comfortable with "giving up the ranch" to add him, since they would NOT be at a distinct advantage to retain his services relative to the rest of the league. So while everyone is focused on the ups and downs of the individual players and collective performance of the team, the biggest news of the season so far is the pending ratification of the new CBA and the ramifications for retaining the most polarizing player in team history.
 
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It's about what I'd expect Karl to think/say if he wasn't trying to sell a book, so a little surprised he didn't cause more controversy or antagonize anyone around here more than that.

Wonder if there is some minor clause in his contract that is partially shutting him up.
Karl was NOT allowed to badmouth the Kings or players per the terms of his termination in order to collect on the remainder of his contract. Its too bad. I would have loved to hear his uncensored perspective.
 
Sean Cunningham ‏@SeanCunningham 12h12 hours ago
George Karl's book:
1. Wanted to trade DeMarcus Cousins
2. GK doesn't value centers - Vlade does cuz he was one
3. GK - No authority w/ SAC

Sean Cunningham Verified account ‏@SeanCunningham
George Karl's Book:
4. DMC super talented, played hurt, passionate
5. DMC "a bully, a sullen child; lacked maturity"

Sean Cunningham ‏@SeanCunningham 12h12 hours ago
That ought to sum up the Kings portion of George Karl's upcoming book "Furious George." Much of which should not be shocking to anyone.

Glad Sean summarized it. Now I don't have to waste time even wondering what else the bitter old man had to say.
George encouraged Ty Lawson to sign with Sacramento. Does that make him a bitter old man?

The guy was washed up as a coach and the Kings are better off without him, but you don't have to crucify the guy.