Afflalo Refusing to Enter Game?

Bricklayer

Don't Make Me Use The Bat
#3
From Carmichael Dave. Anyone have more info on this?
No. I noted it in the grades in the few recent games where Afflalo played -- just simply did not look like he wanted to be out there or was ready to play. And for anybody who was in the New York market last year, its a familiar tale bearing a lot of similarity to how he reacted to being benched in New York. Just quit.
 
#4
Good!

I'd rather give Malachi a shot, why not? He's shooting better from 3 than Belinelli Barnes (29%), Afflalo (31%) and McLemore (32.6%). I'd rather give Skal a shot too, why not? Anyone can shoot better from 3 than Patterson Tolliver (21.6%).

Replace (2 steps-slow) Afflalo/(old as dirt) Barnes with Malachi and replace (uninterested) WCS/ (one-dimensional) Tolliver with Skal. Even the commentators said what the h4ll happened to our offense. WCS had 21 against Dallas last year and it looks like we have ZERO offense game plan out there. Sad to say this but they're right. Our offense is horrid. *I can't wait for Bogdanovich!

McLemore has the worst handles I've seen from a professional GUARD in my entire life. I never want to see him bounce the ball EVER again.

Waive Afflalo, waive Lawson (and/or Barnes) and Trade McLemore for an 18th round pick. Sign Quincy Acy! Sign Marshon Brooks who plays for Jiangsu Dragons of the Chinese Basketball Association (CBA) at least he knows how to score, or someone to hold us over at the 2-guard respectively until Bogdanovich comes over. Sign Toney Douglas (recently waived by Memphis) at least he knows how to play defense or Farmar (at least he can hit a wide open shot). *DO SOMETHING SHEESH!

Offense: Cousins, Gay, Casspi, Collison, Malachi, Farmar, Marshon Brooks
Defense: Douglas, Temple, Acy, Cousins, Koufos, Barnes
Nothing: WCS, Papa

If Gay wants out trade him for Cameron Payne.
If Casspi wants out trade him too.

*It's time Vlade.
 
#6
Afflalo was a cancer on the Knicks who constantly went out of his way to be a black hole on offense. I'm not talking about Rudy Gay type of offense...I'm talking about the Knicks on a 8-0 run from beautiful ball movement, but suddenly, Afflalo decides it's his turn, and he ISOs up. Sometimes, I even felt like Afflalo went out of his way to take shots away from Porzingis.

If these reports are true, then it's a good thing he's not fully guaranteed next year.
 

funkykingston

Super Moderator
Staff member
#9
The guy is shooting 40% from the field (31% from 3), didn't mesh well with the starters and wasn't playing great defense.

There's nothing other than his salary that says he should be starting over Temple who has arguably been the Kings third best player.

He has an argument over whether he or Ben should get those backup minutes as they've been equally bad but apparently McLemore has been better in practice.

Personally I'd rather see Richardson get every backup minute at SG. He'll at least be with the team next season and it's worth seeing what the Kings have in him.
 
#13
Trade Rudy today for Payne if and while you can, injured foot or not, and dump Afflalo to open up a spot for the salary filler that OKC sends our way. Collison sucks we need a PG.

I'm aware Afflalo could be used as a a salary stuffer for a player of greater monetary value but who or when. The guy is a cancer and this team needs to make some moves now. Its not knee jerk when your sitting on a pile of dung. Eighty% of this team can go and we would be better off. And play the rooks Joerger or your going to lose another supporter.
 

funkykingston

Super Moderator
Staff member
#14
Trade Rudy today for Payne if and while you can, injured foot or not, and dump Afflalo to open up a spot for the salary filler that OKC sends our way. Collison sucks we need a PG.

I'm aware Afflalo could be used as a a salary stuffer for a player of greater monetary value but who or when. The guy is a cancer and this team needs to make some moves now. Its not knee jerk when your sitting on a pile of dung. Eighty% of this team can go and we would be better off. And play the rooks Joerger or your going to lose another supporter.
The problem is that Payne already makes a lot less than Rudy. The Kings don't need any extra salary to throw into that trade - they'll have to take salary back from OKC.
 

Bricklayer

Don't Make Me Use The Bat
#16
This organization does not appear to be being run by competent people, from the owner on down. Vlade and co. are losing control
Quite the contrary. The organization is the strongest its been in a decade right now. Certain toughness and focus to it.

Now some of the players...this was always a potential downside with Afflalo. He didn't accept being benched last year either. Since Joerger is trying to establish a hardworking blue collar culture for the team, this kind of prima donnaism will inevitably be bled right out. Its unfortunate, but there are reasons Vlade gave Afflalo only 1 year guaranteed, and then a cheap buyout. We aren't committed if it doesn't work out.
 

Larry89

Disgruntled Kings Fan
#18
I would refuse to enter the game too If I knew I couldn't score, dribble, or defend a ****ing sack of potatoes stuck in concrete. I would refuse to enter the game If I knew I would get publicly embarrassed trying to play a game I get paid millions to do half ass. I don't blame him.
 
#19
The problem is that Payne already makes a lot less than Rudy. The Kings don't need any extra salary to throw into that trade - they'll have to take salary back from OKC.
That's how its meant to read.

Yeah, Paynes rookie salary is no where near Rudys 12 mil a year. I recon the Kings need to lose a player, Afflalo, to open up a spot for for the 2nd player, difference in salary, they would need to eat from OKC.

Though not 100% proven, Im a bit fixated on Payne. There might be another deal out there that would work well for the Kings, but between OKC reported interest and the fact we need a starting caliber PG, it makes sense.
 
#20
Quite the contrary. The organization is the strongest its been in a decade right now. Certain toughness and focus to it.

Now some of the players...this was always a potential downside with Afflalo. He didn't accept being benched last year either. Since Joerger is trying to establish a hardworking blue collar culture for the team, this kind of prima donnaism will inevitably be bled right out. Its unfortunate, but there are reasons Vlade gave Afflalo only 1 year guaranteed, and then a cheap buyout. We aren't committed if it doesn't work out.
Yes, Vlade did good only giving Afflalo and Tolliver one year guarantees. I guess he saw something special in Temple to sign him on longer. Every player on this team that I would want gone can be gone by the end of the year without complicated maneuvering.
 

kingsboi

Hall of Famer
#23
I thought the intentions of bringing in these veteran players was for a culture change...so much for that. It's time to start doing your homework a bit more and not just bring in whoever is left.
 
#24
This organization does not appear to be being run by competent people, from the owner on down. Vlade and co. are losing control
You don't have to get every one right to be a competent GM. So Afflalo is a bustout. how about some props for writing the contract such that we aren't stuck with him long (a'la Landry).

Bugs me that people are quick to jump on Vlade. Afflalo COULD have worked out... just didn't. No biggie.
 

kingsboi

Hall of Famer
#25
You don't have to get every one right to be a competent GM. So Afflalo is a bustout. how about some props for writing the contract such that we aren't stuck with him long (a'la Landry).

Bugs me that people are quick to jump on Vlade. Afflalo COULD have worked out... just didn't. No biggie.
Coulda, woulda, shoulda...blehhh that's not a proper reasoning for this signing. The players Vlade was looking to acquire were unattainable, therefore, he resorted to a player that hasn't been relevant since his Detroit or Denver days just for the sake of making a move. I'm thankful it's a short deal, the Kings were the only team generous enough to give him 12.5 million, he didn't want to settle for much less elsewhere. It's all about getting them checks.
 
#26
Coulda, woulda, shoulda...blehhh that's not a proper reasoning for this signing. The players Vlade was looking to acquire were unattainable, therefore, he resorted to a player that hasn't been relevant since his Detroit or Denver days just for the sake of making a move. I'm thankful it's a short deal, the Kings were the only team generous enough to give him 12.5 million, he didn't want to settle for much less elsewhere. It's all about getting them checks.
What, because we were so clearly set at the 2, no point taking any chances? It was a reasoned risk imo, but then I really do bend over backwards to not be a monday morning quarterback. hindsight being so 20-20 and all that
 

kingsboi

Hall of Famer
#27
What, because we were so clearly set at the 2, no point taking any chances? It was a reasoned risk imo, but then I really do bend over backwards to not be a monday morning quarterback. hindsight being so 20-20 and all that
so continue to take chances at the bottom of the barrel free agent scrap heap? I mean it's a great way to build a winner and gain continuity among your players in the process.
 
#28
Vlade brought in Affallo and Barnes touting a culture change, clearly he was wrong with both of those signings. His Euro draft project center looks like a total stiff during a time when we really could have used some contributions from the draft pick we had. He has also let the Rudy situation continue to trend downward. Worst of all he continues to coddle Cuz and his childish behavior. I've seen enough to say Vlade is not doing enough.
 
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KingsFan80

Guest
#30
This organization does not appear to be being run by competent people, from the owner on down. Vlade and co. are losing control
Cannot lose something you never had control over. Vlade didn't know what he was doing a year and half ago. Nothing is going to change