[Game] Kings v. Spurs - 11/16/16 -7:30PT/10:30ET

[kingsboi]

No, I mean, in hindsight, that Bucks loss doesn't look so bad while the Miami loss is a head scratcher.

That's not the only head scratcher but it's a good start

 

[Tetsujin]

The faster we as a fan base realize that there are no such things as easy games, the better off we will be both mentally and physically IMO.

Not easy games but winnable games. Sure, technically every game is winnable, but a game against, say, the Wizards is more winnable than one against the Spurs.

 

[Kingsfan23]

Entire lineup needs shaking up

I want to see a new starting backcourt

 

[kingsboi]

Not easy games but winnable games. Sure, technically every game is winnable, but a game against, say, the Wizards is more winnable than one against the Spurs.

I'm sure the Wizards would feel the same way looking on their schedule and seeing the Kings on their platter.

 

[kingsboi]

Entire lineup needs shaking up

I want to see a new starting backcourt

back to the Malone starting unit? Collison & Ben?

 

[Tetsujin]

I'm sure the Wizards would feel the same way looking on their schedule and seeing the Kings on their platter.

Of course, but at the same time, they also don't stand as good a chance at winning as the Spurs do, which I'm sure they realize as well.

I'm not saying that anything's going to come easy. I'm just saying don't panic when you lose to the basketball terminator that is the San Antonio Spurs.

 

[jcwkings]

The faster we as a fan base realize that there are no such things as easy games, the better off we will be both mentally and physically IMO.

Then what the hell are we rooting for? We have a team full of 30 year old guys in their or past their primes and we all agree we are a plain as day bad basketball team. If we are going to suck at least give us a young team where we can see growth game by game. Like what incentive do I have to root for guys like Ty Lawson, Afflalo etc. When I know for a damn fact they will be here and gone in a few months. Rudy Gay isnt coming back, Darren Collison will rightfully sign somehere else. Why continue to delay the inevitable?

 

[jcwkings]

The faster we as a fan base realize that there are no such things as easy games, the better off we will be both mentally and physically IMO.

Then what the hell are we rooting for? We have a team full of 30 year old guys in their or past their primes and we all agree we are a plain as day bad basketball team. If we are going to suck at least give us a young team where we can see growth game by game. Like what incentive do I have to root for guys like Ty Lawson, Afflalo etc. When I know for a damn fact they will be here and gone in a few months. Rudy Gay isnt coming back, Darren Collison will rightfully sign somehere else. Why continue to delay the inevitable?

 

[kingsboi]

Of course, but at the same time, they also don't stand as good a chance at winning as the Spurs do, which I'm sure they realize as well.

I'm not saying that anything's going to come easy. I'm just saying don't panic when you lose to the basketball terminator that is the San Antonio Spurs.

I understand what you are saying, completely. At what point though, do you look at yourselves in the mirror and say " how much more can we take?". At some point you have to beat some of these teams if you want to make any positive progress moving forward and not always falling short, that's been the same story over and over again, different players, different coaches, different front office, same results...yawn.

 

[King Baller]

Entire lineup needs shaking up

I want to see a new starting backcourt

How about Collison and Temple?

 

[gil renard]

Looks like 4-12 is inevitable. I hope they keep losing so Vlade can finally realize he needs to blow it up. Dec. 15 is when FA's signed in the offseason can be moved, so hopefully he's already been having discussions and they get something done then. Everybody on the roster should be available...I don't like this team at all.

 

[kingsboi]

Then what the hell are we rooting for? We have a team full of 30 year old guys in their or past their primes and we all agree we are a plain as day bad basketball team. If we are going to suck at least give us a young team where we can see growth game by game. Like what incentive do I have to root for guys like Ty Lawson, Afflalo etc. When I know for a damn fact they will be here and gone in a few months. Rudy Gay isnt coming back, Darren Collison will rightfully sign somehere else. Why continue to delay the inevitable?

I'm not really even sure myself what we are rooting for. Maybe some of us are rooting for energy & hustle? passion & heart? a future of some sort and not just a veteran filled squad who can't string together consecutive wins....maybe some of us are waiting for the day where we can just do the inevitable sooner rather than later while the value is still high?

 

[kingsboi]

Then what the hell are we rooting for? We have a team full of 30 year old guys in their or past their primes and we all agree we are a plain as day bad basketball team. If we are going to suck at least give us a young team where we can see growth game by game. Like what incentive do I have to root for guys like Ty Lawson, Afflalo etc. When I know for a damn fact they will be here and gone in a few months. Rudy Gay isnt coming back, Darren Collison will rightfully sign somehere else. Why continue to delay the inevitable?

I'm not really even sure myself what we are rooting for. Maybe some of us are rooting for energy & hustle? passion & heart? a future of some sort and not just a veteran filled squad who can't string together consecutive wins....maybe some of us are waiting for the day where we can just do the inevitable sooner rather than later while the value is still high?

 

[Mr. S£im Citrus]

Thats exactly the point im trying to make. Tetsujin says the schedule gets easy after this homestand. Games to Miami, Orlando, Milwaukee and LA at home would be considered "easy" games or games we should expect to win...

By whom? It seems to me that whether or not those teams should be regarded as "easy" wins tends to be a function of whether or not it fits the poster's argument. I'm not sure whether those should have been "easy" wins, or not. Who gets to decide?

 

[Tetsujin]

Looks like 4-12 is inevitable. I hope they keep losing so Vlade can finally realize he needs to blow it up. Dec. 15 is when FA's signed in the offseason can be moved, so hopefully he's already been having discussions and they get something done then. Everybody on the roster should be available...I don't like this team at all.

Sweet mother of god. The Kings played 11 games in 17 days then followed it up with a game against the best run organization in the NBA.

 

[peacelate]

Then what the hell are we rooting for? We have a team full of 30 year old guys in their or past their primes and we all agree we are a plain as day bad basketball team. If we are going to suck at least give us a young team where we can see growth game by game. Like what incentive do I have to root for guys like Ty Lawson, Afflalo etc. When I know for a damn fact they will be here and gone in a few months. Rudy Gay isnt coming back, Darren Collison will rightfully sign somehere else. Why continue to delay the inevitable?

Because people trust Vlade for some reason.

At the end of the day, we will have traded our first round draft pick so that the team could learn to lose the right way.

 

[gil renard]

I'm sure the Wizards would feel the same way looking on their schedule and seeing the Kings on their platter.

Kings are on the poo poo platter.

 

[kingsboi]

Looks like 4-12 is inevitable. I hope they keep losing so Vlade can finally realize he needs to blow it up. Dec. 15 is when FA's signed in the offseason can be moved, so hopefully he's already been having discussions and they get something done then. Everybody on the roster should be available...I don't like this team at all.

I concur wholeheartedly with you on this here. I feel absolutely no passion or energy watching this team, hell...watching the games, the players look like zombies more often than not on the court, where's the urgency? the desire?

 

[kingsboi]

Kings are on the poo poo platter.

same poo poo, different year.

 

[Tetsujin]

James Ham ‏@James_Ham 1m1 minute ago
Joerger said that changes to the starting lineup is on the table.


This obviously means we're trading Boogie to the Lakers.

 

[kingsboi]

Because people trust Vlade for some reason.

At the end of the day, we will have traded our first round draft pick so that the team could learn to lose the right way.

Losing the right way would entail the Kings to receive a top 3 or top 5 lottery selection and not always on the outside looking in and ending up in 7-10 territory.

 

[gil renard]

Then what the hell are we rooting for? We have a team full of 30 year old guys in their or past their primes and we all agree we are a plain as day bad basketball team. If we are going to suck at least give us a young team where we can see growth game by game. Like what incentive do I have to root for guys like Ty Lawson, Afflalo etc. When I know for a damn fact they will be here and gone in a few months. Rudy Gay isnt coming back, Darren Collison will rightfully sign somehere else. Why continue to delay the inevitable?

I agree. The only thing I fear is giving this regime more lotto picks to inevitably screw up. First thing is we need some competent basketball people like Hinkie running things. Vlade and Peja can be "promoted" to ceremonial roles to save face.

 

[Bricklayer]

Looks like 4-12 is inevitable. I hope they keep losing so Vlade can finally realize he needs to blow it up. Dec. 15 is when FA's signed in the offseason can be moved, so hopefully he's already been having discussions and they get something done then. Everybody on the roster should be available...I don't like this team at all.

You guys are kind of funny.

Lose to the San Antonio Spurs = OMG!! We're never gonna win again! Its over! Woe onto us! AIEEEEEEE!!!!

 

[peacelate]

You guys are kind of funny.

Lose to the San Antonio Spurs = OMG!! We're never gonna win again! Its over! Woe onto us! AIEEEEEEE!!!!

Plenty of other losses to choose from.

 

[jcwkings]

You guys are kind of funny.

Lose to the San Antonio Spurs = OMG!! We're never gonna win again! Its over! Woe onto us! AIEEEEEEE!!!!

No but we are 4-8. If we win two of Miami, Orlando, Milwaukee, LA we are 6-6 and a loss tonight is much more bearable. Fact remains we are looking down the barrell of 4-12. We are the definition of a mediocre basketball team. This team aint going on no six, seven, eight game win streak. At best this team is capable of .500 basketball on a month with a favorable schedule, meaning there aint no coming back from 4-12.

 

[sdballer]

You guys are kind of funny.

Lose to the San Antonio Spurs = OMG!! We're never gonna win again! Its over! Woe onto us! AIEEEEEEE!!!!

So sick off all the short sighted fans that think trading cuz is the barrier to us being "good" again

 

[gil renard]

You guys are kind of funny.

Lose to the San Antonio Spurs = OMG!! We're never gonna win again! Its over! Woe onto us! AIEEEEEEE!!!!

What about all the losses to teams they're "supposed" to beat? What's the point of keeping together a veteran team that maxes out at 30 wins?

 

[peacelate]

So sick off all the short sighted fans that think trading cuz is the barrier to us being "good" again

I don't think trading Cuz makes us any better. I just hope we can get talent in return because this franchise has a history of letting the little talent it has walk for nothing.

 

[peacelate]

What about all the losses to teams they're "supposed" to beat? What's the point of keeping together a veteran team that maxes out at 30 wins?

So us fans can see the team lose the way basketball is supposed to be played.

 

[jcwkings]

So sick off all the short sighted fans that think trading cuz is the barrier to us being "good" again

Whoever said that? Absolutely no one expects to be better if we trade Cousins. Some just accept that it will never work, timelines are all wrong, and its best for all parties to go on separate ways.