Who Would You Want for Gay?
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That's the "lazy" approach when assessing Gay's impact on a team. The same people tend to think if Cousins was any good that we would be winning 40-50 games.
All it is are people looking to take the easy way out when trying to explain an outcome. Either they don't have the time or don't care to inform themselves enough. There's no problem with that. You have the right to take any stance you want, but it's going to leave your arguments looking weak and vulnerable when posting here.
All it is are people looking to take the easy way out when trying to explain an outcome. Either they don't have the time or don't care to inform themselves enough. There's no problem with that. You have the right to take any stance you want, but it's going to leave your arguments looking weak and vulnerable when posting here.
We have a team. What do we need most? A PF amongst starters and a back up PG. if Vlade wants to get rid of Gay then he has dug the hole of needs much deeper. The only current player I want to see gone is Ben. You can't trade Gay for a starting PF, a backup PG and a starting SF. Doing nothing might be better than outing Gay.
I disagree. I think we need a starting PG (Collison puts out a lot of effort, but he does really well coming off the bench and we need a scorer off the bench). I think WCS will show signs of growth this season and make the starting PF spot his (it's what we drafted him for after all, not to mention we finally have a good defensive coach to tap into his defensive talent/potential).
Taj Gibson was a possibility for a starting PF, but now with the Bulls running 3 ball dominant guards and no Pau, they need Gibson and Rudy wouldn't fit in at all with them. I still think the best bets are Miami, Thunder, and the Suns. The Suns have a pair of PGs (one that I like, but is frequently injured, the other would be decent value in return) and Miami has Dragic, who is big for a PG and would fit the mold we set this offseason (he's my choice in the above list). However, Miami doesn't really get any better trading Dragic for Gay, if anything, they would definitely want to keep Dragic and get Rudy alongside him. The Thunder are an option too, but I don't like anything they have to offer. Payne hasn't proven a thing and you don't trade a proven scorer for an unproven PG.
Darkhorse trade partner: Boston
Taj Gibson was a possibility for a starting PF, but now with the Bulls running 3 ball dominant guards and no Pau, they need Gibson and Rudy wouldn't fit in at all with them. I still think the best bets are Miami, Thunder, and the Suns. The Suns have a pair of PGs (one that I like, but is frequently injured, the other would be decent value in return) and Miami has Dragic, who is big for a PG and would fit the mold we set this offseason (he's my choice in the above list). However, Miami doesn't really get any better trading Dragic for Gay, if anything, they would definitely want to keep Dragic and get Rudy alongside him. The Thunder are an option too, but I don't like anything they have to offer. Payne hasn't proven a thing and you don't trade a proven scorer for an unproven PG.
Darkhorse trade partner: Boston
Maybe Miami would do Dragic for Gay if we throw in some pick swaps 
How far out do we have to go to find a draft pick we can offer to swap - 2020?
How far out do we have to go to find a draft pick we can offer to swap - 2020?
Dragic is a steady vet that knows how to play, and most importantly, can run a team. However, getting him would be difficult. I think Miami would be the hardest trade partner to work with out of the 3 I listed, mostly because getting Gay while giving up Dragic doesn't make any sense for them (unless we include Collison, which is entirely possible because we have Temple now). The only issue is that we would be giving out a lot of good veteran/proven talent while not getting much back.
Agreed. If they wanted Collison too, I really don't see anyone on their roster that the Kings would want apart from Dragic (they obviously will not move their other main pieces, like you said). So it turns out to be a Rudy-Dragic swap (which worked on trade machine), but that doesn't do anything for them. Stalemate
Like most I would like to see a quality PG in return for Gay. However I don't see many teams with a oversupply of PGs. Not Houston, Miami, Utah..
Boston, Phoenix, Minnesota, who else? are loaded so I would look there.
If I thought Tyreke still had good tread left I would consider him as NO is set in that position. OKC might want Rudy but again Payne is Westbrooks backup for now.
If Vlade hadn't already loaded up on every other position the possibilities might be easier.
Boston, Phoenix, Minnesota, who else? are loaded so I would look there.
If I thought Tyreke still had good tread left I would consider him as NO is set in that position. OKC might want Rudy but again Payne is Westbrooks backup for now.
If Vlade hadn't already loaded up on every other position the possibilities might be easier.
Well, I'm certainly not going to lose any sleep if somebody thinks my posts are "weak and vulnerable." His track record suggests that the teams he has played for usually end up better after he's gone (more so in Toronto). I've been around basketball my entire life and I go by feel a lot. I just don't think that Rudy helps a team much. Individually, he has some great qualities but it doesn't translate to winning basketball.