One AND ONLY Cousins trade rumors thread

[jayfly]

Voison reporting that Karl reached out to Boogie via text at least 10 times with no response. I don't know what to believe anymore, but that article was such a hit job in Cousins.

If thats true then he needs to go.

I love Cousins but will he ever be a winning player. Will he ever stop whining like a 3rd grader and not walk back on d when he doesnt get a call. Will he ever be a leader and loved among his teammates. A lot of people that know a lot more then we do would answer no to all those questions. If thats what the front office thinks then trade him now and get a bundle for him and go from there. Only prob is you know if he goes to the Lakers what will happen lol.

 

[steelevt]

Where did you hear this? You used "fact" in your statement...

he has a source that heard there is possible talks between merriam and webster about a framework for changing the definition of "hearsay" to "fact" in the dictionary

 

[Kingster]

Where did you hear this? You used "fact" in your statement...

Read above, Gary. See the reports? That's what we're talking about here.

Here you go. Spoon fed:

http://www.sactownroyalty.com/2015/...-kings-la-lakers-demarcus-cousins-trade-rumor

 

[hrdboild]

This entire thread...



Two possibilities here: (1) None of these rumors have any substance at all. (2) Sacramento is the worst run franchise in the league.

Anybody even considering these trade proposals is out of their mind. Is Sacramento actually the dumbest franchise in the NBA? I guarantee you 29 other fanbases think so right now. I'm not ready to go there yet, but I'm teetering over the edge. I'll tell you what though, a homerun draft shuts a lot of people up. Get both Mudiay and Johnson tomorrow and even the critics will have to admit that we had the best draft in the league. Nobody else is adding 2 5-star teenagers with All-Star potential. Keep Cousins and Rudy, add Rondo and a couple solid bigs like Thomas Robinson and Kyle O'Quinn and we're well on our way to respectability. Results always earn respect. Are we actually the dumbest franchise in the NBA? We'll see what happens tomorrow.

 

[The Hammer]

I'm a long time member who rarely writes on here but loves to read all the posts. I love this site! IF, and I mean IF we HAVE to trade Cousins, why not offer him to DET for Drummond, #8 and more assets? We get a young big who runs the court, plays above the rim, a rim protector and still on a cheap deal, plus the #8 pick, where we draft another young player plus future assets. Plus we send him to the east and only face him twice. Again I don't want to trade Cousins as he is the best big in the NBA, but let's look at other offers besides the Lakers. For the record, I hate the Lakers!

My god it's astonishing how little we value a Hall of Fame Talent. This fan base really doesn't think much of themselves do they?

 

[Livinthedream]

This entire thread...



Two possibilities here: (1) None of these rumors have any substance at all. (2) Sacramento is the worst run franchise in the league.

Anybody even considering these trade proposals is out of their mind. Is Sacramento actually the dumbest franchise in the NBA? I guarantee you 29 other fanbases think so right now. I'm not ready to go there yet, but I'm teetering over the edge. I'll tell you what though, a homerun draft shuts a lot of people up. Get both Mudiay and Johnson tomorrow and even the critics will have to admit that we had the best draft in the league. Nobody else is adding 2 5-star teenagers with All-Star potential. Keep Cousins and Rudy, add Rondo and a couple solid bigs like Thomas Robinson and Kyle O'Quinn and we're well on our way to respectability. Results always earn respect. Are we actually the dumbest franchise in the NBA? We'll see what happens tomorrow.

I think both possibilities are true.

 

[Kingsgurl]

Don't say we, some of us very much value it, are in awe that we finally, finally have that talent...here, he's ours. The others are either too young to appreciate it or too beat down to realize the goal is winning, not perpetual rebuilding and hoping someone turns out to be a good player in the draft.

 

[Gary]

Read above, Gary. See the reports? That's what we're talking about here.

Here you go. Spoon fed:

http://www.sactownroyalty.com/2015/...-kings-la-lakers-demarcus-cousins-trade-rumor

ehh.. Rumor.. I don't take that as fact, and I doubt it's anything more than Lakers offering a trade and the Kings saying "no thanks" .... "no thanks".....

I read the yahoo version, and had been following the tweets today. When you had said "fact" I thought you had something solid.. That's not even close to fact. That's rumors.

 

[ESP47]

Yes I would.

The entire point of drafts is to acquire DeMarcus Cousins. When you have found a Top 10 player in the world, everything else becomes irrelevant. Anything and anybody else you acquire would just be an attempt to, you guessed it, get back that Top 10 player in the world you already had. You can't trade up unless you pretty much are getting back multiple Top 10 players, or at least one Top 10 player and a couple of elite friends.

And Wiggins is a great athlete with a shaky shot. who put up an entirely average SG statline as a rook. He'll be good, but a "good" SG is one of the least impactful players you can have. He needs to be the full on great in order for his impact to match the hype. Durant took a big leap after his rookie year, but then again Durant was a freak. We'll see.

Wiggins is in that "freak" category. We'll see if he pans out. He passed the eye test against us last year. Played like a rookie at moments and played like a superstar at others.

I don't want to trade Cousins right now but I'm going to play devils advocate here. Cousins is one of the best players in the world but he comes with a LOT of baggage. Outside of the arena he seems like a fantastic guy but on the court and in the locker room he is as big a problem as anyone in the league. Players aren't lining up to come play with him because of his attitude. It's not out of line to say his attitude could keep him from ever really being a winner in Sacramento. He's had problems with every coach he's had here other than Malone. The guy is a handful to deal with and that can hold a franchise back just as much as the front office running the team into the ground. It's not as simple as just having one of the best players in the league at your disposal.

TWolves wouldn't do it but Wiggins and Towns would be extremely intriguing. Having multiple two way players is the way you get into the playoffs. Barring some sort of miracle, we aren't going to sniff the playoffs this year. We don't have the talent and Karl isn't going to coach these guys into being a top 15 defense. We can add any of these guys slated to fall to us in the lottery and it's not going to matter much. JT is our best PF. McLemore is our best SG and Collison is the 3rd best player on our team by a huge margin. We simply lack talent from 3/4ths our roster and we lack two way players from every roster spot other than Cousins' and Collison's to a much lesser extent.

There just aren't many ways to really improve this roster while keeping our best players. The only way is by getting lucky with this pick. We don't have many valuable pieces and we especially don't have any redundant valuable pieces that we can trade away. We have a lottery pick, Cousins and Gay. If we can't sniff the playoffs this year then it's time we seriously start talking about overhauling this roster because this crap can only go on for so long. If we end up having to trade away a top 5 guy to get the 10th and 20th best guys in the league, then that may be a gamble worth taking in the future. Right now we need to ride it out with Cousins but if this year is the same old crap as the last few have been, then I'm all for making a change.

 

[rhythmless]

I love Wiggins. I think he has All Star written all over him.

Sure. He could very well end up an all star.

You know who IS an all star? And also 2nd team nba? The guy we already have.

Grass is greener where you water it. Stop chasing the star; we already got one. Support him, give him the role players he needs, and he will take you to the promised land.

Or, you could just Vivek around all day.

 

[Nikolizzle]

Just read that Aldridge is seriously considering going to LA... If they could craft a trade for Boogie, an Aldridge + Cousins front court would be pretty brutal.

 

[Fear the Putin]

To say that PDA has absolutely no play in this is far fetched. Magical coincidence that everything began to roll down the rumor lane once he moved to Denver. Then you have agents and media "sources" fanning the flames to satisfy their own interests.

It's unfortunate that this is where our "information" comes from nowadays. From hacks and self serving cockroaches.

I have ZERO stress now about DMC getting traded rumors. Zero.

 

[Dreadnought]

I'm pretty confident Boogie isn't traded.

 

[gunks]

People, I think we need to accept that these trade talks are real. They are happening.

Here's the thing though...

The Lakers are notorious for getting franchise bigs gifted to them. They see a rookie in Vlade, backed by an idiot owner and a undermining coach, major blood in the water. They think they can bamboozle us so they call to set up a trade.

Vlade basically asked for EVERY SINGLE ASSET the Lakers have.... Their top pick this year, last year's lotto pick, an up and coming young PG, and "other draft assets" ... and....AND.... They have to take back scrub Landry on his horrendous contract.

They are left with Cuz, Kobe, and trash. That team isn't going anywhere. And they risk a Howard scenario all over again, because when the losses stack up, Kobe and the LA media are turning on Cuz in a heartbeat... and maybe he doesn't even stick around.

Lakers HAVE to balk at that offer. It's not even an offer..... it's just Vlade saying "F you, Mitch."

Now, here's the other thing....

We need to accept that yes, Cousins did ask for a trade. Was it recent? Was it during the aftermath of Malone's firing? When Karl was hired? Moot point, it happened.

But because Vlade isn't a bumbling amateur like our departed friend, Mr. Weasel, he knows that while we may need to trade Cousins eventually, we have him locked up for three years. Why panic and sell low, when we can still turn this thing around and build a team around a future HOFer?

So Vladfather USED the Lakers interest in Cousins to gage his trade value by asking for EVERYTHING, while at the same time publicly saying he will not trade Cousins, to avoid alienating the star.

Vlade doesn't intend to trade Cuz unless he has to, but now he has a better idea of what he's worth if that dreaded day should come. He also got to show GMs around the league that he isn't some noob to be ****** with. If you're going to bother us about Cousins, you better come with an insanely good offer..... which is what Vlade has been saying all along.

Well played Vlade, well played.




Scary thing is..... There is a chance that we DO get that insanely good offer. And it may come out of left field. But after these past few days I think Vlade is going to make the right call on draft day.

 

[PurpleHaze]

DeMarcus says loud and clear he wants to stay here - "absolutely." Vlade says #15 is not being dealt, ditto Vivek. Woj is now out there hanging by a thread with his reporting. Tomorrow should be fun, tuning in around 4PM PT ESPN for the draft with Kings #6 pick maybe only suspense assuming dizzying trade rumor mill is finally buried.

 

[Dreadnought]

People, I think we need to accept that these trade talks are real. They are happening.

Here's the thing though...

The Lakers are notorious for getting franchise bigs gifted to them. They see a rookie in Vlade, backed by an idiot owner and a undermining coach, major blood in the water. They think they can bamboozle us so they call to set up a trade.

Vlade basically asked for EVERY SINGLE ASSET the Lakers have.... Their top pick this year, last year's lotto pick, an up and coming young PG, and "other draft assets" ... and....AND.... They have to take back scrub Landry on his horrendous contract.

They are left with Cuz, Kobe, and trash. That team isn't going anywhere. And they risk a Howard scenario all over again, because when the losses stack up, Kobe and the LA media are turning on Cuz in a heartbeat... and maybe he doesn't even stick around.

Lakers HAVE to balk at that offer. It's not even an offer..... it's just Vlade saying "F you, Mitch."

Now, here's the other thing....

We need to accept that yes, Cousins did ask for a trade. Was it recent? Was it during the aftermath of Malone's firing? When Karl was hired? Moot point, it happened.

But because Vlade isn't a bumbling amateur like our departed friend, Mr. Weasel, he knows that while we may need to trade Cousins eventually, we have him locked up for three years. Why panic and sell low, when we can still turn this thing around and build a team around a future HOFer?

So Vladfather USED the Lakers interest in Cousins to gage his trade value by asking for EVERYTHING, while at the same time publicly saying he will not trade Cousins, to avoid alienating the star.

Vlade doesn't intend to trade Cuz unless he has to, but now he has a better idea of what he's worth if that dreaded day should come. He also got to show GMs around the league that he isn't some noob to be ****** with. If you're going to bother us about Cousins, you better come with an insanely good offer..... which is what Vlade has been saying all along.

Well played Vlade, well played.

I hope you're right.

 

[KingsFanGER]

People, I think we need to accept that these trade talks are real. They are happening.

Here's the thing though...

The Lakers are notorious for getting franchise bigs gifted to them. They see a rookie in Vlade, backed by an idiot owner and a undermining coach, major blood in the water. They think they can bamboozle us so they call to set up a trade.

Vlade basically asked for EVERY SINGLE ASSET the Lakers have.... Their top pick this year, last year's lotto pick, an up and coming young PG, and "other draft assets" ... and....AND.... They have to take back scrub Landry on his horrendous contract.

They are left with Cuz, Kobe, and trash. That team isn't going anywhere. And they risk a Howard scenario all over again, because when the losses stack up, Kobe and the LA media are turning on Cuz in a heartbeat... and maybe he doesn't even stick around.

Lakers HAVE to balk at that offer. It's not even an offer..... it's just Vlade saying "F you, Mitch."

Now, here's the other thing....

We need to accept that yes, Cousins did ask for a trade. Was it recent? Was it during the aftermath of Malone's firing? When Karl was hired? Moot point, it happened.

But because Vlade isn't a bumbling amateur like our departed friend, Mr. Weasel, he knows that while we may need to trade Cousins eventually, we have him locked up for three years. Why panic and sell low, when we can still turn this thing around and build a team around a future HOFer?

So Vladfather USED the Lakers interest in Cousins to gage his trade value by asking for EVERYTHING, while at the same time publicly saying he will not trade Cousins, to avoid alienating the star.

Vlade doesn't intend to trade Cuz unless he has to, but now he has a better idea of what he's worth if that dreaded day should come. He also got to show GMs around the league that he isn't some noob to be ****** with. If you're going to bother us about Cousins, you better come with an insanely good offer..... which is what Vlade has been saying all along.

Well played Vlade, well played.




Scary thing is..... There is a chance that we DO get that insanely good offer. And it may come out of left field. But after these past few days I think Vlade is going to make the right call on draft day.

I assume for DMC it's all about winning. His behaviour in losses is telling.
Basically any team wanting to trade for DMC has to give up nearly all of their assets. DMC is a superstar on a 3 year contract. He will never go cheap. So the team, that does the trade, would be in rebuilding mode right after it, trying to find the right assets to put around DMC. Of course big market teams like the Lakers or Celtics have advantages in FA. But most big time FA will go to a team, where they can make a run at the title asap. Would DMC and a bunch of low key role players be that team? I don't think so.
From my point of view DMC has a better chance to win with the Kings right now as he would have with the Lakers paired with aging Kobe. And I would think he knows that.
Troubles will start, when DMC is in the last year of his contract. Then he has the leverage and the Kings will be forced to consider low balling offers for him, giving him the chance to be traded to a team able to contend for the title right away.
I would think there is no need to worry right now.

 

[Double-K]

Grass is greener where you water it.

Also greener grass keep snakes away.

 

[Albatros]

I don't see him being traded right now. But this has come to a head now sadly. He will be going sooner than most of us thought.

Id be stunned if he saw out this season now. Maybe even before the season.

Nightmare scenario, vlade has to get good value now going into a new arena.

 

[NewArena]

I don't see him being traded right now. But this has come to a head now sadly. He will be going sooner than most of us thought.

Id be stunned if he saw out this season now. Maybe even before the season.

Nightmare scenario, vlade has to get good value now going into a new arena.

winning changes everything. i dont see Cousins leaving us at all if we can somehow turn things around

 

[peacelate]

This is a star driven league. We already have a star in Cousins and trading him for question marks when he is only 24 years old makes no sense. Trading him in the future might make sense, but certainly not this soon.

 

[The Hammer]

Just read that Aldridge is seriously considering going to LA... If they could craft a trade for Boogie, an Aldridge + Cousins front court would be pretty brutal.

Immediate contender, almost no matter who else they have.

 

[Hadlowe]

Also greener grass keep snakes away.

SSSSurprissse

 

[Big Cuz 15]

Sure. He could very well end up an all star.

You know who IS an all star? And also 2nd team nba? The guy we already have.

Grass is greener where you water it. Stop chasing the star; we already got one. Support him, give him the role players he needs, and he will take you to the promised land.

Or, you could just Vivek around all day.

i could call in sick and Vivek around all day.

 

[Chubbs]

The fact that he's talking to them doesn't tell me he's terribly worried about that. Unless maybe the Lakers are involved in a 3-way, but don't end up getting Cousins in the deal.

Apparently you're comfortable now calling Vlade a liar? You have proof he's calling up the lakers?

Vlade is "talking" to everyone that calls. Doesn't mean much but you seem to want to paint Vlade as a liar actively trying to trade cousins.

Fine, that's your game. I guess we can all start whatever rumor suits our agendas.

 

[Double-K]

 

[New Era]

For a good chunk of the year yes. But he played both in that chaos, and actually played better as a guard. He'll need to fill out to be much of a SF.

Here's the thing with him though: he's not a great shooter at this point. He's not a great ballhandler/assistman at this point. So...exactly what is he going to end up doing at so elite a level that he becomes one of the true greats?

He's 20 years old. DMC had plenty of things to work on after his first year too. You're not going to play like a HOFer after your first year at 20 yo.

 

[Mass]

Just to show how stupid lakers fans are... 99% of the answers were like these. Boogie must stay here, were we know his true value. F*** the Lakers and their fans.

 

[ESP47]

People, I think we need to accept that these trade talks are real. They are happening.

Here's the thing though...

The Lakers are notorious for getting franchise bigs gifted to them. They see a rookie in Vlade, backed by an idiot owner and a undermining coach, major blood in the water. They think they can bamboozle us so they call to set up a trade.

Vlade basically asked for EVERY SINGLE ASSET the Lakers have.... Their top pick this year, last year's lotto pick, an up and coming young PG, and "other draft assets" ... and....AND.... They have to take back scrub Landry on his horrendous contract.

They are left with Cuz, Kobe, and trash. That team isn't going anywhere. And they risk a Howard scenario all over again, because when the losses stack up, Kobe and the LA media are turning on Cuz in a heartbeat... and maybe he doesn't even stick around.

Lakers HAVE to balk at that offer. It's not even an offer..... it's just Vlade saying "F you, Mitch."

Now, here's the other thing....

We need to accept that yes, Cousins did ask for a trade. Was it recent? Was it during the aftermath of Malone's firing? When Karl was hired? Moot point, it happened.

But because Vlade isn't a bumbling amateur like our departed friend, Mr. Weasel, he knows that while we may need to trade Cousins eventually, we have him locked up for three years. Why panic and sell low, when we can still turn this thing around and build a team around a future HOFer?

So Vladfather USED the Lakers interest in Cousins to gage his trade value by asking for EVERYTHING, while at the same time publicly saying he will not trade Cousins, to avoid alienating the star.

Vlade doesn't intend to trade Cuz unless he has to, but now he has a better idea of what he's worth if that dreaded day should come. He also got to show GMs around the league that he isn't some noob to be ****** with. If you're going to bother us about Cousins, you better come with an insanely good offer..... which is what Vlade has been saying all along.

Well played Vlade, well played.




Scary thing is..... There is a chance that we DO get that insanely good offer. And it may come out of left field. But after these past few days I think Vlade is going to make the right call on draft day.

The problem is that the Lakers assets are not that great and they don't fit well together. I have some serious defensive concerns about an Okafor/Randle frontcourt. We would be massively downgrading defense at both positions and we're already bottom 5 in defense. Okafor's post game is legit but he's going to have to be paired with a WCS player who turns into a legitimate rim defender.

 

[sono]

Thank you, thank you, thank you. It made my day. **** Lakers.