JT wants to get traded (and other trade discussion)

[Iced Espresso]

Which is supposed to mean what, to me? You know that "realgm" is a figure of speech, right?

Twenty-four of the thirty teams in the league are over the salary cap. Only one of the six teams that are under the cap are actually trying to win. The other five have no interest in taking on any non-expiring contracts. If other teams have nothing to offer but "trash," the fault is not with Thompson, or his contract; he's not grossly overpaid, which is what you appear to be implying.

I'm implying someone is worth what someone will pay for him.

So until I can see a trade that seems likely to return anything but garbage back means unless you accept it, he aint going to be moved.

But forget everything I've ever said here, all of it....

Brand new question for you.

Make a realistic trade for Thompson for us all to see here that does not yield garbage back.

 

[Mr. S£im Citrus]

I'm implying someone is worth what someone will pay for him.

In that case, he's worth $6M, since that's what he's getting paid.

Brand new question for you.

Make a realistic trade for Thompson for us all to see here that does not yield garbage back.

I'm not particularly interested in trading Thompson. I'd rather trade Landry, and move Thompson to the bench.

 

[Iced Espresso]

In that case, he's worth $6M, since that's what he's getting paid.


I'm not particularly interested in trading Thompson. I'd rather trade Landry, and move Thompson to the bench.

Ok.

Then let me ask you this, since it appears he wants out.

What do you think you can get in a trade for Thompson?

I'd rather trade Landry too. His contract is even harder to move.

 

[MelTurpin]

Would Jordan Hill be a useful player? I could see a deal like that. Or to Cha.

Too bad Moreland is still out.

 

[King Baller]

JT can play Center so that adds a lot of value. Look at who he defends night in, night out. JT is not a problem. The issue is that he is an ideal third Big on a Playoff team. JT is not flashy, but he defends and runs the floor as well as any Big.

If I am Pete I leave the starting five intact unless I can seriously upgrade. I would trade the following to get a sixth man who can score with the ball, a wing defensive ace and a Big defensive ace.

Stauskas has value, don't kid yourself. Especially in Toronto and on teams near Michigan where he played his college ball. He just needs time to develop his game.

DWill is just an expiring. Somebody out there may have a situation where they think he will flourish. And who knows he might, look at Whiteside, anything is possible

Landry is probably here for another season due to his contract. But remember Landry was a Malone guy. Landry has value as a bench scorer and does play with hustle.

Sessions is perceived as a solid PG by a lot of people. This has been his worst year. So he is desirable by some teams that need a veteran PG.

Reggie Evans is a consummate pro and is tough as nails. I would not mind seeing him remain a King.

Hollins could be in play if a backup center is needed to complete a trade. especially if a Center is coming this way.

Ray could spark some interest but I like his game and he is all upside.

Omri is a keeper, he plays hard.

So while some may call it rearranging the deck chairs on the Titantic I think some upgrades can be made. DWill, Landry and Sessions may be enough to help a team unload a player whose contract they do not need or a free agent to be who is not in the plans.

 

[Iced Espresso]

Unless incentive is included I just do not see how Landry or JT are moved this season and we are not worse off for it King Baller.

Thompson next season to someone playoff bound, who will not mind buying him out on year 3 does seem like it is possible.

But if we are throwing incentive around, then indeed some options open up to include JT in a trade possibly.

 

[VF21]

Would that make Boogie the longest tenured?

https://twitter.com/spearsnbayahoo/status/567182442125983745

Marc J. SpearsVerified account‏@SpearsNBAYahoo
The camp for Kings forward Jason Thompson would like to get him traded before Thursday's deadline, a source said.

Oh goodie. Another "camp" rumor.

I suspect Jason has said privately more than once that he would like to find another team. I do not think, however, that he ever said it publicly and I doubt if he said it recently.

It says a source says his camp would like him traded before the deadline. I wish his camp - and all the other camps - would just shut their mouths.

A future HOF coach is about to take the reins of the Kings. JT is about to play for a coaching rock star. My guess is he'd like to stick around and see what it's like just once in his career.

 

[206Fan]

I'd make the Atlanta trade, but are you sure they would not to prefer to keep Thabo around for D in the playoffs?

Also I'd decline the Miami trade, I'd rather buy JT out for 2.65 million on the third year of the McRoberts contract, or even fully pay JT and keep him on the roster.

McRoberts can be a good player...if he's ever healthy. Probably not this season, but we can build on for it.

 

[Mr. S£im Citrus]

Ok.

Then let me ask you this, since it appears he wants out...

I'm not under the impression that Thompson has the leverage to force a trade, so it doesn't currently matter what he wants.

I'm not sure what we can get for Thompson, because I haven't been interested in looking that hard. What I do know is that twenty-four teams in the NBA are currently over the salary cap. Only three of the six teams that aren't have anybody that we should want, and at least two of them are trying not to take on any multi-year contracts.

 

[VF21]

Ok.

Then let me ask you this, since it appears he wants out.

What do you think you can get in a trade for Thompson?

I'd rather trade Landry too. His contract is even harder to move.

You mean like DMC doesn't want to play for George Karl?

 

[Iced Espresso]

I'm hesitant not to make a trade with MIL because they desperately need front court help, especially if they make the playoffs. They're modeled a bit like the Warriors team, run and gun style. Problem is, aside from Johnny O'Braynt(rookie) and Zaza, they don't have any real big men.. I'm pretty sure we could pull off a trade with them, but I don't know which players they'd want to trade out of their bunch. They have a ton of good role players.

Trade scenario #3
Sacramento-Jason Thompson/Ramon Sessions
Detroit- Joel Anthony/Anthony Tolliver
Detroit is actually a few games away from the playoffs believe it or not. They've lost Brandon Jennings out for the year and are now depending on DJ Augistin and John Lucas. Detroit is another team that lacks a solid PF/C. Tolliver is a stretch PF they'd have to give up to gain. JT gives them rebounding and backup minutes, while Sessions helps with PG duties.


McRoberts can be a good player...if he's ever healthy. Probably not this season, but we can build on for it.

I'd rather take Felton and negate the Thompson contract than risk the McRoberts 3 year, but I'd decline the Felton trade unless it was dire in the first place to get the cap space.

I'm intrigued with the Detroit trade though.

Those are expiring contracts, team option on Tolliver for 3 million next season.

I'd be happy for that as the return. I'm not so sure Detroit pulls the trigger however. But it is worth a shot. Good job if they think they can make the playoffs this season.

I think Detroit declines however, but maybe I'm wrong.

 

[Siranthony]

What sense does it make for JT to demand a trade? He is a pretty good player who can be an asset to a team as a role player. Some people think he makes too much and other say not. So his pay is probably in line. Other teams don't seem to be breaking down the door to acquire him. Otherwise he would be gone already. So releasing this desperate press release only lowers his value, making it harder to trade him. So JT.... Are you going to relinquish your salary and let the team release you if you don't get traded???????????????? Please stop this nonsense and continue collecting your 6 mil per and do your job.

 

[Iced Espresso]

You mean like DMC doesn't want to play for George Karl?

That was about the 4th post about asking what JT's value was around the league, phrased that way because of what his camp said supposedly, really not the point of the post. The other 10 posts leading up to that one were the points.

This thread is full of discussion about the camp talking about about wanting out, so why is my post singled out?

 

[itzcoatl]

So many different combinations can be made around these rumors.

JT by himself isn't getting you anything. If it did, the Kings would have traded him already.

The Bucks are the most interesting team we've been linked too. Henson is the piece I want, but Larry Sanders is a Kings sort of gamble. Karl actually does value rim protection. Incredibly risky, but some combination of Thompson, Landry, and Williams would get it done. Basically, nothing of value to anyone.

There was a time when I thought Larry Sanders would be a good gamble - but the guy is just an idiot and scares me. Especially after this dirty play when he nearly kills Batum:

 

[CurseOfTheSalmons]

OP is another plant. Look at his join date.

 

[206Fan]

I'd rather take Felton and negate the Thompson contract than risk the McRoberts 3 year, but I'd decline the Felton trade unless it was dire in the first place to get the cap space.

I'm intrigued with the Detroit trade though.

Those are expiring contracts, team option on Tolliver for 3 million next season.

I'd be happy for that as the return. I'm not so sure Detroit pulls the trigger however. But it is worth a shot. Good job if they think they can make the playoffs this season.

I think Detroit declines however, but maybe I'm wrong.

I think if Detroit believes they're close enough for the playoffs, they do this trade without hesitation. On the other hand, if the team as a whole is iffy about their chances for the playoffs, they hesitate and don't pull the trigger. Thompson's contract would be a bit of a commitment for a year if they do miss the playoffs. I think it's a move they do specifically for a playoff push. Then they'd also have to think about a team maybe like Miami interested in trading for JT as part of their playoff push.

I can see where they'd be hesitant though.

good stuff.

 

[HereWeBoogie]

We will desperately need another big if JT is traded. i don't see another team trading us one FOR Thompson, because why would they do that? so they need to get another trade lined up as well

 

[Iced Espresso]

I think if Detroit believes they're close enough for the playoffs, they do this trade without hesitation. On the other hand, if the team as a whole is iffy about their chances for the playoffs, they hesitate and don't pull the trigger. Thompson's contract would be a bit of a commitment for a year if they do miss the playoffs. I think it's a move they do specifically for a playoff push. Then they'd also have to think about a team maybe like Miami interested in trading for JT as part of their playoff push.

I can see where they'd be hesitant though.

good stuff.

Pete, check this one out lol.

No I take this trade in a heartbeat and never look back.

I'm not sure Detroit pulls the trigger, but I've never seen a trade this good for us with Thompson and no incentive going out.

 

[VF21]

That was about the 4th post about asking what JT's value was around the league, phrased that way because of what his camp said supposedly, really not the point of the post. The other 10 posts leading up to that one were the points.

This thread is full of discussion about the camp talking about about wanting out, so why is my post singled out?

Because it was short and to the point and addressed something I was talking about, i.e. a lot of people took the source reports about leaks from DMC's camp as gospel even though it became clear later on they were either total wrong or at least misconstrued. The same exact thing could be happening in this case.

An unnamed source saying JT's camp wants him traded doesn't mean it's true. It also doesn't mean, even if true, that JT has those same feelings. Way too many people (not necessarily you) automatically jumped on the bash-JT wagon, as though what had been tweeted was gospel.

You may have been focusing on his trade value, but your hypothesis could easily be wrong. That's what I was pointing out.

 

[VF21]

OP is another plant. Look at his join date.

Just stop.

 

[SacTownKid]

Do work JT, because it's going to take just that to convince a team to trade for you without the Kings giving up something along with you.

 

[SacTownKid]

This is actually almost comical if it weren't so sad.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...st-buzz-speculation-surrounding-kings-forward

The irony is the Jason Jones Tweet: "And the Kings have been trying to trade Jason Thompson for how long now?"

I remember when everyone was saying Hayes was the immovable contract on this roster. ha ha!

 

[IfAt1st]

I wish they could have traded him/bought out/amnestied him away 2 years ago.

I wish they'd never given him that contract, years ago and I argued against it here.

Crazy thing is - he never was worth his contract, and people didn't want him, then that half-season he had good stats (but the Kings didn't extend him early) and his asking price went from $3 mil a season to $6+ million for someone not many people really wanted.

It's never been about the stats, for me, with JT - the guy just has never been good. He's the definition of OK.
But his flaws - his personality, his bad BBall IQ, and style of play have always added up to much less than his stats would suggest. Plus, I can't recall one clutch play in an important game in his entire career.

 

[Larry David]

I like JT. He's put up with all of the crap and non-sense here for a long time. I like how he plays and handles his business now. At the same time, he's been a borderline starter, on crummy teams, with often just over replacement level production for much of his time here. He seems to have a poor sense of his value and worth both on this team and the league. Yet, he's covered a fair amount in the papers and blogosphere. Sometime around 12 months ago, I passed my "I'm done reading about what JT wants breaking point" even if he finished out his deal here.

It's unfortunate he's unhappy now. It's also unfortunate he wasn't a better player and constantly bitching to everybody his first few years.

Let's call it a wash and you keep playing out your contract until we can get something of value for you?

 

[whozit]

I'd rather take Felton and negate the Thompson contract than risk the McRoberts 3 year, but I'd decline the Felton trade unless it was dire in the first place to get the cap space.

I'm intrigued with the Detroit trade though.

Those are expiring contracts, team option on Tolliver for 3 million next season.

I'd be happy for that as the return. I'm not so sure Detroit pulls the trigger however. But it is worth a shot. Good job if they think they can make the playoffs this season.

I think Detroit declines however, but maybe I'm wrong.

I'd rather keep Thompson than take Felton. What's that rule about not trading big for small? Contracts be damned. Thompson is on a good contract for a third big off the bench.

 

[9x1x6]

OP is another plant. Look at his join date.

Its ok, I'll just go back to the Kings reddit.

 

[Iced Espresso]

I'd rather keep Thompson than take Felton. What's that rule about not trading big for small? Contracts be damned. Thompson is on a good contract for a third big off the bench.

I agree but Dallas would take that trade if they don't land Amare, hopefully the 206Fan trade or something similar can be worked out.

Honestly, I expect we are getting junk back or will just keep Thompson till next deadline. Unless the Kings get involved in a package deal somehow and offer some incentive.

 

[Letsgokings13]

Let's get a 4 who has good hands and can make free throws. Some defense would be nice too

 

[Kingfanpaul]

I'd rather keep JT. He's a nice, professional guy and you know he's never going to be in trouble off the court. While no superstar, he does a few things well and can be a good solid role player on a playoff team, something I hope this team is next year. Unless some other players are attached and it's a huge deal, I don't see us getting someone back that is better than JT. Obviously if a deal comes along and it will improve the team, I'm all for it, but I'm certainly not in the trade JT group just to trade him.

 

[GQ_Gabriel]

Although I would prefer for us to keep Jason Thompson, one aspect of his game that I have personally have always disliked is his body language on the court. It has quite honestly gotten better thus far this season, however, for as long as I could remember, his body language and foul reactions were so miserable to watch. It felt as if his behavior was contagious to the team. It will be refreshing for both he and the organization to move forward.

 

[Iced Espresso]

Although I would prefer for us to keep Jason Thompson, one aspect of his game that I have personally have always disliked is his body language on the court. It has quite honestly gotten better thus far this season, however, for as long as I could remember, his body language and foul reactions were so miserable to watch. It felt as if his behavior was contagious to the team. It will be refreshing for both he and the organization to move forward.

Thompson would be ideal for a team that had an excellent 4 or 5, paired with someone on their rookie deal contract that could afford to pay Thompson to back them both up.

The paring with Landry and not having anyone better in front of them castrates us, we can't fix it.