Does NBA 3.0 Include DMC?

lwc

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I tend to think about this often after Malone was fired. In this new mindset and fast-paced style that the front office wants to install is having DeMarcus a smart move? Would it be better for them to trade him for assets and fast-paced players? I certainly want to keep Boogie and then move away from a fast paced style but having Boogie doesn't seem to make sense in a run and gun style.

In one sense he makes sense for the 4-5 that Vivek speaks of but offensively as opposed to defensively. As in crash the boards and throw the outlet for fast breaks. However that can be done much cheaper with a guy like Reggie.

Remember I'm a Wildcats and Kings fan so there are few if any people on this board that want to keep Boogie more than I do. However it seems as if that having him is counter productive to what the front office is going to do. You cannot fire the owner but the players can be traded.

I believe the worst thing that could happen for the front office and for Boogie is to keep him here and try to play this run and gun offense. As much as I hate to say it maybe trading DeMarcus is best for both parties. Please someone bring me to my senses and tell me I'm completely wrong and that DeMarcus can flourish with the front office wants to do.
 
ForlornKing

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I have thought this as well.... I know that the front office values him very highly... but in their cuckoo minds that means that might mean they think they can get a lot for him.
 
Glenn

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I have thought about this also. Boogie was interviewed about this with a quick question (can't remember who asked and I have no link) and he said "I can run." He isn't concerned yet Boogie thinks he is Superman. :) Obviously he will try anything he is told. That's good to have that attitude but not bright on the part of the team.

Let's see what the FO says going forward. I suspect these silly comments will die out as reality sets in. My reality is you fit the offense to the players you have. If we lose a few more games, this reticence on hiring Karl may go away. We'll hire him.

If we don't hire Karl, it will confirm the idiocy of the FO. I don't worry about Boogie in a running offense as he can snag the rebounds and get the running started anyway. The start of the run out is to get the ball and Boogie is the best. The problem is that we have a team far better suited for a half court game.



Edit: Ah, brick. Me, too.
 
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Bricklayer

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I've said this before in a private forum, but if Boogie goes, I go with him.

That said, I think its just the despair talking. If the rodent were ever to do such a thing he would be dragged out of town tied to somebody's bumper and dumped down in Modesto with a "And Stay Out!" sign taped to his back. Besides, because of Boogie's unprecedented skills and mobility, unfortunately the morons in charge likely see him as a key to junkballing it. Can't junkball with Brooke Lopez in there. Need a driving, dishing center capable of handling and leading a break.
 
datamanwes

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Listening to George Karl yesterday being interviewed he pretty much said that Boogie is a perfect fit for the NBA 3.0 style that the front office wishes to run
 
Bricklayer

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kingsfan1984 said:
would you trade Cousins for Durant?
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No.

But as Westbrook is maybe my favorite brainless hypercompetive balls to the wall player in the league, I would feel real comfortable as an OKC fan and absolutely love the fact that we were going to march into stadiums intent on destroying teams.
 
King Baller

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Bricklayer said:
I've said this before in a private forum, but if Boogie goes, I go with him.

That said, I think its just the despair talking. If the rodent were ever to do such a thing he would be dragged out of town tied to somebody's bumper and dumped down in Modesto with a "And Stay Out!" sign taped to his back. Besides, because of Boogie's unprecedented skills and mobility, unfortunately the morons in charge likely see him as a key to junkballing it. Can't junkball with Brooke Lopez in there. Need a driving, dishing center capable of handling and leading a break.
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We have really good exterminators in Modesto. So don't bring the rodent here:p Just keep going until he is over the Grapevine and down in LaLa land.
 
Chubbs

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Bricklayer said:
No.

But as Westbrook is maybe my favorite brainless hypercompetive balls to the wall player in the league, I would feel real comfortable as an OKC fan and absolutely love the fact that we were going to march into stadiums intent on destroying teams.
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I'd join the exodus to being a Thunder fan if that happened. Westbrook/Boogie would be quite the pairing.
 
kingjatt

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kingsboi said:
wouldn't it be nice right about now if Ujiri was our GM instead of Pete.....oh the what ifs
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One can dream, Masi went into Toronto to break everything up, get his own coach in there and start over. But lucky for Toronto fans he does not have a giant ego or meddling owner so when he saw Casey having moderate success playing a style similar to Malones (Defense first) he quickly ADJUSTED his philosophy to Caseys. He quickly began making moves to help Casey and his staff the type of players that they needed and turned the raptors into the 1 seed out east.
 
King Baller

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kingjatt said:
One can dream, Masi went into Toronto to break everything up, get his own coach in there and start over. But lucky for Toronto fans he does not have a giant ego or meddling owner so when he saw Casey having moderate success playing a style similar to Malones (Defense first) he quickly ADJUSTED his philosophy to Caseys. He quickly began making moves to help Casey and his staff the type of players that they needed and turned the raptors into the 1 seed out east.
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While Masai does appear to be a qualified GM. Part of what happened in Toronto may have been just good fortune unfolding.

See this article--> http://basketball.realgm.com/article/235969/The-Inadvertent-Contenders


As far as trading DeMarcus Cousins that is the Kings Fans version of Blasphemy.

My answer is HELL NO!!!!!
 
kingjatt

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King Baller said:
While Masai does appear to be a qualified GM. Part of what happened in Toronto may have been just good fortune unfolding.

See this article--> http://basketball.realgm.com/article/235969/The-Inadvertent-Contenders


As far as trading DeMarcus Cousins that is the Kings Fans version of Blasphemy.

My answer is HELL NO!!!!!
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We were good fortune unfolding too, except our GM decided that it had to be on his terms. The Raptors success wasn't necessarily on Masai's terms but he didnt let his ego get in the way and facilitated anything that needed to be done for Casey..........unlike PDA/Mullin.
 
LPKingsFan

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Given that the latest rumors are that the Deron Williams talks were actually about Kings wanting Plumlee, and that they've looked into Koufos, there must be room for big men in NBA 3.0.
 
funkykingston

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Sac.Kings said:
I am gone as a fan if they trade Demarcus. At least until new ownership takes hold.
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Pretty much.

I've always been much more about the name on the front of the jersey than the back so this isn't solely about Boogie (though I absolutely love him as a player) and more about yet another blown opportunity in Sacramento. As a small market team we have to be smarter and more clever than the big market teams and so far this front office is showing that they are capable of horribly stupidity. Worse yet, they think they are being smart and clever.
 
Padrino

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funkykingston said:
As a small market team we have to be smarter and more clever than the big market teams and so far this front office is showing that they are capable of horribly stupidity. Worse yet, they think they are being smart and clever.
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yup. past a certain point, talk of "innovation" becomes an empty-headed attempt to reinvent the wheel. it is neither innovative nor clever to marginalize your own roster in an attempt to play a style of basketball that they are not well-suited to. and if you were to sacrifice a top-5 talent in pursuit of that play style, well then you have no place in the nba. as much as i currently disapprove of the new regime, i do not believe that they are quite so asinine. they may stupidly fire a solid, defensively-minded head coach. they may choose not to hire the most qualified replacement out of ego or fear of relinquishing control. but they can't possibly consider a trade of demarcus cousins to be a prudent investment in their own futures in sacramento...
 
SacTownKid

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Whatever "vision" they had for this team had to be in place before Cousins was signed to a max deal. I doubt they have any desire to go in a different direction from Cuz. The only fear now would be Cousins saying F it and wanting out. He said he believes in what they are trying to do so we'll see. I think fans are just getting flashbacks from the numbnuts logic this organization has had for the last 8 years and are associating a lack of caring with the new ownership when it might just be a lack of knowledge and experience.

If this team bottoms out this year then Pete D'allesandro has to pay the price. And whoever was involved with it as well.
 
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No it doesn't

Like I said in the other thread we are in Cousins 5th season and he has not been on a team that won more than 35 games or even sniffed 500. ball, aside from swapping Collison for Thomas we have done nothing at all to help DeMarcus in terms of surrendering him with a system/players required to make noise. There's only so much one person can tolerate the guy eventually will see what everyone else see's and that is the organization regardless of who has been management has zero idea wtf to do.

This organization had the right formula smacking it in the face with Malone and all the holes he was able to cover up and guess what they got rid of him. Everything we seem to be doing is pushing Cousins away rather than bringing him closer, I also would not be surprised if Rudy Gay wants out eventually as well, he was lured into signing a contract than once they tricked him into it they fired the coach he wanted to play for. It's sad that the one time we actually get beyond lucky in the draft (Cousins should at worst been a top 2 pick) we can't capitalize on it instead we are driving one of the best talents in the NBA away.\

These last 4 (maybe 3) we have looked worse with DMC under Corbin than we did without DMC under Malone, it's just back to brainless non existent defense basketball and it's sad to watch. At least under Malone we lost with some form of dignity.


The management will think NBA 3.0 involves Cousins but I doubt Cousins himself see's it or any outsider looking in.
 
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Does NBA 3.0 Include DMC?

Of course.

I remember Cousins said "he can run" referring to the fast pace offense and I believe him. I remember he once said he was not worried about getting less touch on the ball, because he knows he will always get a lot of touch on the ball inside the paint no matter what.

Also, always remember that Vivek and PDA were the personalities very high on Cousins (and Gay to a certain extent) from the very start to the point they wanted these two players signed a contract extension ASAP. It was Malone, who was reluctant at first on signing Cousins and Gay for an extension when he first got here, but he is finally gone now.

Therefore, we can rest assured Cousins and Gay will be integral parts of this NBA 3.0.
 
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andremiller07 said:
This organization had the right formula smacking it in the face with Malone and all the holes he was able to cover up and guess what they got rid of him. Everything we seem to be doing is pushing Cousins away rather than bringing him closer, I also would not be surprised if Rudy Gay wants out eventually as well, he was lured into signing a contract than once they tricked him into it they fired the coach he wanted to play for. It's sad that the one time we actually get beyond lucky in the draft (Cousins should at worst been a top 2 pick) we can't capitalize on it instead we are driving one of the best talents in the NBA away.
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Malone is gone. Put a period on that. Malone is history now, just like Mark Jackson is history in Golden State Warriors.

Mark Jackson was well-respected and well-loved by his players (especially Stephen Curry). He was replaced by a "rookie" coach who does not have experience coaching an NBA team.

And guess what?

Stephen Curry is more motivated than ever playing with the Warriors after his favorite coach Jackson was fired.

Now that it was out that Malone was the one reluctant on Gay and Cousins' extensions, you think Gay and Cousins will care that much about the coaching change? :confused:
 
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