DeMarcus Admitted to Hospital
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Right, but it would be nice to get a feel for the playoffs and get the first time "experience" to happen, in a season where we're not a legit contender. That way when we are a contender, we have some experience in big games that mean a lot.
Otherwise the second half of the season starts to have a feel of preseason for the following year...like last season was
Otherwise the second half of the season starts to have a feel of preseason for the following year...like last season was
You're right, all this does is set us back a full year and waste 10-15% of Cousins' remaining prime years. No prob. We should do it again next year and make it an even 10 years for symetry's sake, There are certain set stages every single NBA team goes through, and they eat up the seasons of your career. Become a playoff contender/just miss is one of them. So is "first run past the first round but lose due to inexperience". Barring a superteam construction we're a bare minimun 3 years out from true contention, and there are 10 or so possible years of Cousins as title carrying team left.. if we let this year fall apart, then next year we'll still be 3 years left, with 9 years of Cuz remaining. And that's 3 years minimum, if you don't get stalled out somewhere as normally happens. You have been out of the playoffs for a decade, and you are blase as your window for success with the best player you ever drafted gets narrower and narrower.
In life there are always just a certain number of golden opportunities you either seize or miss. Mostly miss and maybe not even recognize what you missed until later. In the NBA you time things out by seasons and years in a guy's career. This was an absolutely golden, scrap that, platinum, opportunity for this franchise,. Best one they've had in a decade, to take a giant step. If this goes on too much longer, it fades back into just a small step, with most of the work still to come. guys get older, other accidents happen, people get impatient, owners get poor. Carpe diem is a great motto for the NBA. When you see your oppportunity you damn well better seize it, and when you miss one you damn well better regret it. Your best case is that you've lost something critical in a sport measured in the short span of a superstar's career. Your worst case is you blow the opportunity altogether. You certainly put yorself in terrible danger. One more bad break, just one next season, and all this "inevitable" future becomes cloudy, full of stress and fear. You're the team that can never get over the hump with the star who's contract is ending on the horizon. There is/was a chance to end that storyline right here, right now. To change everything.
In life there are always just a certain number of golden opportunities you either seize or miss. Mostly miss and maybe not even recognize what you missed until later. In the NBA you time things out by seasons and years in a guy's career. This was an absolutely golden, scrap that, platinum, opportunity for this franchise,. Best one they've had in a decade, to take a giant step. If this goes on too much longer, it fades back into just a small step, with most of the work still to come. guys get older, other accidents happen, people get impatient, owners get poor. Carpe diem is a great motto for the NBA. When you see your oppportunity you damn well better seize it, and when you miss one you damn well better regret it. Your best case is that you've lost something critical in a sport measured in the short span of a superstar's career. Your worst case is you blow the opportunity altogether. You certainly put yorself in terrible danger. One more bad break, just one next season, and all this "inevitable" future becomes cloudy, full of stress and fear. You're the team that can never get over the hump with the star who's contract is ending on the horizon. There is/was a chance to end that storyline right here, right now. To change everything.
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Wouldn't that be funny if Carmichael Dave had heard that Boogie would be returning this week and that's why he tweeted that DMC may not be back till January. Just to see everyone's doomsday reactions and then have the fanbase be pleasantly and shockingly surprised when he comes back out of nowhere.
oh well, one can dream
I think your qualifier is one that you simply cannot accept as probable at this point. We've already seen some pretty significant injuries and I don't think you can just assume they won't happen the rest of the year.
Add to that the mere fact it's only December and I think there's still room for quite a bit of shifting in the West.
Add to that the mere fact it's only December and I think there's still room for quite a bit of shifting in the West.
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I just have a really hard time seeing unless a massive collapse the top 7 teams in the West currently not being there and even if some of those teams get injuries they are so talented/stacked they cane overcome them to some degree that's what kind of separates them from us/Suns/Nuggets/Pelicans.
I also hate to be a conspiracy theorist but I'm 100% certain that the NBA wants the Thunder and two of the games biggest stars in the playoffs and will probably give them a nudge forward if they require it sort of like the treatment the Lakers got when Kobe/Pau/Dwight/Nash were on the verge of missing the playoffs.
I also hate to be a conspiracy theorist but I'm 100% certain that the NBA wants the Thunder and two of the games biggest stars in the playoffs and will probably give them a nudge forward if they require it sort of like the treatment the Lakers got when Kobe/Pau/Dwight/Nash were on the verge of missing the playoffs.
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The Mav's are one of the most stacked teams in the NBA they are not missing the playoffs. They have one of the best SG's in the NBA in Monta, a elite anchor in Tyson Chandler, Dirk and one of the most versatile 3's in Chandler Parsons (who is only now starting to play well). They have 4 guys that at some point were starting PGs in the NBA and Barea is back to what he was after down years in Minny.
They have size in Wright/Chandler/Dirk (all 6'11+, they have shooting from every single spot other than C and high level shooters in Jameer, Parsons, Dirk, Devin Harris and they have Aminu as a back SF (another guy who started in the NBA and is a good defender), along with Jefferson who played well in Utah last season (eve Jae Crowder can play). The Mav's unless they loss 2 of there big 4 to injury are not missing the playoffs not a chance.
Even after all that they have arguably a top 3 coach in the NBA in Rick Carlisie this team once they click are just going to be pure nasty. Last years Mav's team without the two Chandlers/Aminu won like 50 games (could have been 48-49). Tyson Chandler is back to his 2011 form the guy is finishing like crazy at the rim and his defense is what Dallas has missed since there 2011 run.
They have size in Wright/Chandler/Dirk (all 6'11+, they have shooting from every single spot other than C and high level shooters in Jameer, Parsons, Dirk, Devin Harris and they have Aminu as a back SF (another guy who started in the NBA and is a good defender), along with Jefferson who played well in Utah last season (eve Jae Crowder can play). The Mav's unless they loss 2 of there big 4 to injury are not missing the playoffs not a chance.
Even after all that they have arguably a top 3 coach in the NBA in Rick Carlisie this team once they click are just going to be pure nasty. Last years Mav's team without the two Chandlers/Aminu won like 50 games (could have been 48-49). Tyson Chandler is back to his 2011 form the guy is finishing like crazy at the rim and his defense is what Dallas has missed since there 2011 run.
completely agree. this was our time to really take a leap, maybe even skip the whole, 'just miss out' and jump straight into the, 'bounced out of the postseason due to lack of experience' phase. Its been pretty depressing here since boogie's been inactive. it feels like we've been kicked in the guts and blindsided just when we were making a name for ourselves. It hurts and the realization is that this was our chance, we really had a shot at greatness here and the promised land. Now we somewhat have to start again and that hurts. We really really could use a win on national TV tomorrow but beyond that we need to regain sight of the road ahead and re create what we had.
I totally get the doomsday scenarios. I'm a Kings fan. I get it.
This team was a borderline 8 seed type team in the best case scenario. COMPETING for a playoff spot in the west can hold as much value as making the playoffs in the long term. I don't think too many people seriously thought we'd do much more than that this season. We are right there with PHX and NO and Denver. When healthy. Which is not good enough. Not in the west. Okc will catch and blow by all of those teams, including us. If they stay healthy. Which is not a given, that never is.
Dallas is at minimum a playoff team, They're not going anywhere. A lot of talent there. And experience.
This team is still developing. Boogie's injury doesn't change that. If we were legitimately more talented than other playoff teams, this would hurt more. But I don't think we are.
All that really IS lost is a Boogie all-star appearance. I think that upsets some of you more than the team setback.
This team was a borderline 8 seed type team in the best case scenario. COMPETING for a playoff spot in the west can hold as much value as making the playoffs in the long term. I don't think too many people seriously thought we'd do much more than that this season. We are right there with PHX and NO and Denver. When healthy. Which is not good enough. Not in the west. Okc will catch and blow by all of those teams, including us. If they stay healthy. Which is not a given, that never is.
Dallas is at minimum a playoff team, They're not going anywhere. A lot of talent there. And experience.
This team is still developing. Boogie's injury doesn't change that. If we were legitimately more talented than other playoff teams, this would hurt more. But I don't think we are.
All that really IS lost is a Boogie all-star appearance. I think that upsets some of you more than the team setback.
It should upset you too. It all ties together. Our profile, our chance at national games, fans, money, free agents, everything. Cousins' momentum and honors ARE the Kings' momentum and honors. If nothing else the rest of the team is making that perfectly obvious now. We couldn't sell out a high school gym without him. And pollyannas are flat delusional, living in a safe little bubble of their own imagination, if they think Boogie's reps, or the league for that matter, are going to let him rot on the vine here. No All Star appearances in 5 years could be nearly half his career. Something happens next year and you are literally talking about his HOF chances beginning to dim. This is a perennial All Star level talent who never gets in. This is not the first year of anything for him. This was the culmination of a long tough battle to finally break through perceptionwise, and he's been cut off at the knees just when he arrives, and to add insult, his 'team" is utterly failing him in the task of keeping hopes alive until he can get back. And there is additional danger to that observ ation, because with it is going to emerge this line of conversation: the Sacramento Kings have failed DeMarcus Cousins. The Sacramento Kinge are not worthy of DeMarcus Cousins. Imagine the career and honors DeMarcus Cousins could have anyplace else with a real organization. Etc. At the very least the strong chemistry of the early season could easily be broken, and who knows if it even comes back. This happened too quick. Boogie gets sick in March and we are screwed, but by that time our identity is formed up, its established that we are good, we know the team works together, and if not for the illness...but not this early. This early we just had a good month. The narrative can flip right back and dismiss it as a short term aberration if the season wanders on and we aren't a relevant part of it.
I am in the risk avoidance business. I clean up a lot of messes for people who did not look ahead. Or try to, because sometimes you can't. There are danger signs all over this situation, and two weeks ago we were just about in position to start putting those away. We still aren't dead yet but this cannot continue at all. Two more weeks of it, we are in fact dead. And pretending there are no consequences to that is ridiculous. There are always consequences. The positions of everybody associated with the franchise are weakened with every failure.
I am in the risk avoidance business. I clean up a lot of messes for people who did not look ahead. Or try to, because sometimes you can't. There are danger signs all over this situation, and two weeks ago we were just about in position to start putting those away. We still aren't dead yet but this cannot continue at all. Two more weeks of it, we are in fact dead. And pretending there are no consequences to that is ridiculous. There are always consequences. The positions of everybody associated with the franchise are weakened with every failure.
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I am not prone to fits of wild optimism, but I also have observed that generally things are rarely as bad as the worst case scenario either. The facts at 8:15 Am on 12/11 are that we have a .500 record and a schedule for the next 5 games with 3 soft opponents. So at the moment things are what they are. Now what does the next 2 months look like? Well the only thing that I know is that anyone who thinks they do know is sadly deluded. I try to live by the old adage prepare for the worst and hope for the best. I have also observed that necessity is the strongest motivator. The most likely way this team, including coach Malone CAN learn to win with out DMC on the court is to play with out him. So given the team seems to be taking the illness a week at a time we can also look at the next 5 games as an opportunity for the team to grow.
I refuse to buy into the doom and gloom mentality for the simple reason that DMC's illness was not due to broke owners, inept coaches, etc. It just happened. And I believe we'll get past it because there's no other alternative. We have to get past it. Painting such a negative picture of our future, even if it's just a worst case scenario kind of thing, is - as my great-grandmother used to call it - borrowing trouble. We have enough without borrowing any.
We've come a long way. To cry now over a flat tire is IMHO just a bit silly. Based on a lot of comments I'm seeing on FB, Twitter, and other boards, I think DMC will be a very popular choice by NBA fans for the All-Star game. And we can all help make it happen.
If this makes me a "flat out delusional" pollyana, so be it. I've been called worse in the 30 years I've been a Kings fan.
We've come a long way. To cry now over a flat tire is IMHO just a bit silly. Based on a lot of comments I'm seeing on FB, Twitter, and other boards, I think DMC will be a very popular choice by NBA fans for the All-Star game. And we can all help make it happen.
If this makes me a "flat out delusional" pollyana, so be it. I've been called worse in the 30 years I've been a Kings fan.
Boogie isn't going to leave because he got sick and the team wasn't good without him. And if he doesn't make the all star team, it's because he got sick, not because the team isn't good without him. He's given nothing but indications he loves it here. We already got the big free agent. His name is Rudy Gay. THAT ALREADY HAPPENED! It's done. We got Collison too. Also done. Carmelo, Lebron, those guys, they're not coming here as free agents no matter what we do in December of 2014 or if Boogie Cousins makes the all star team this season. It's the illness that will hold him out. It doesn't have a damn thing to do with Ryan Hollins and Carl Landry being inadequate players.
This season is 1/4 over. That's it. This season isn't even lost. Boogie is under contract for 3 more years. Do you really think in 3 years he's going to say "You know what, back in December 2014, the team wasn't very good. I'm outta here."
That's not merely "negativity:. That's being an overly dramatic fan that can't see the forest for the trees. Went just a tad deep down the rabbit hole for my taste. It's borderline delusional.
As for Boogie being sick, yeah it sucks. It killed team momentum. I'm upset. We are all upset. Boogie is probably really upset.
This season is 1/4 over. That's it. This season isn't even lost. Boogie is under contract for 3 more years. Do you really think in 3 years he's going to say "You know what, back in December 2014, the team wasn't very good. I'm outta here."
That's not merely "negativity:. That's being an overly dramatic fan that can't see the forest for the trees. Went just a tad deep down the rabbit hole for my taste. It's borderline delusional.
As for Boogie being sick, yeah it sucks. It killed team momentum. I'm upset. We are all upset. Boogie is probably really upset.
killed momentum and with it a golden oppourtunity to solidify this franchise as up and coming nationally and reapoint us on the nba map which we have been absent for, for years. Not for the bloody carmelos and lebrons as you say we have rudy. that happened. But from a FA point of view for everybody dam else.
So you can whine about it or you can accept that it happened, and move on. It's not like we can change the fact that DMC got sick any more than we could change the fact that Webber collapsed in Dallas on that fateful day and was never the same afterwards.
Did it kill momentum? We don't know yet. We know it stalled momentum but who's to say what will happen when DMC returns to the court.
Did it kill momentum? We don't know yet. We know it stalled momentum but who's to say what will happen when DMC returns to the court.
