DeMarcus Admitted to Hospital

HereWeBoogie

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I really do wonder if it's bacterial meningitis and they just won't tell us. Because here is some information on Viral Meningitis

http://www.cdc.gov/meningitis/viral.html
"Most people with viral meningitis usually get better on their own within 7 to 10 days."

So most people just get better on their own within 10 days? Without any treatment? Because he has actually been getting treatment and is still not better. i don't like the sound of that
 
Glenn

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rainmaker said:
If it was a source who's "in the know", then why wouldn't CD clarify that? He'd just have to say something along the lines of "a source who's a higher-up in the organization and would know, thinks Cuz being out until Jan is a legit possibility" or something of that nature.

But "chatter"? Sounds to me like a guy who likes to hear himself speak, or rather read reactions to his tweets, or maybe even troll to get more people calling into his radio show to talk about it.

CD has posted stuff like this before on twitter and after he gets the uproar he's going for, he falls back on the "well this is just my opinion" explanation.
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No crap!!!
 
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Peter_Gibbons

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The thing is recovery from a virus is always day to day in terms of progress. We've all had a flu before where we felt like hell one day and got much much better the next day. So any "news" about Boogie's recovery time right now are just guesses.

He may wake up tomorrow and feel 90% recovered and start getting back to the gym for light workouts. Not likely, but you get my point.
 
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HereWeVivek said:
I really do wonder if it's bacterial meningitis and they just won't tell us. Because here is some information on Viral Meningitis

http://www.cdc.gov/meningitis/viral.html
"Most people with viral meningitis usually get better on their own within 7 to 10 days."

So most people just get better on their own within 10 days? Without any treatment? Because he has actually been getting treatment and is still not better. i don't like the sound of that
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So you think the doctors who are treating him are telling lies??? Why?

Yes they can get better in 7-10 days but it also can be longer. It also may take awhile to get strength back after the virus is wiped out.
 
HereWeBoogie

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Glenn said:
Yes they can get better in 7-10 days but it also can be longer. It also may take awhile to get strength back after the virus is wiped out.
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well it's already been well over 10 days and it's not like it looks like he's about to get back in the gym, instead we are hearing reports that he still looks extremely ill and could be out a month. Doesn't sound like the same virus i just read about at all
 
Glenn

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This was posted yesterday:

OFFICIAL MEDIA PRESS RELEASE FROM SACRAMENTO KINGS:

DeMarcus Cousins Medical Update

SACRAMENTO, CA -- Sacramento Kings center DeMarcus Cousins has been diagnosed with viral meningitis, according to team physicians with Kaiser Permanente Sacramento.

Cousins’ symptoms are stable and a full recovery is expected, however the Kings medical staff recommends further rest before demands of an NBA schedule can be tolerated. He will continue to be monitored daily, with basketball-related activities expected to resume when his health allows.

Cousins is not expected to be in uniform for this week’s contests. Further updates on his playing status will be issued when they become available.
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What changed overnight?
 
Iced Espresso

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I no longer see any reason to make trades with any urgency.

That's one positive, we can wait for the correct value or regroup in the off season. No more pressure to make the playoffs now, especially if he is out the entire month.
 
Capt. Factorial

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rainmaker said:
If that's true, this season is probably over.
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Schedule is important to keep in mind here. We've got the following to come in December (and I'll include Jan. 1 as a road back-to-back):

Uta / @LAL / Hou / Det / OKC / Mil / LAL / @GSW / Pho / NYK / @Brk / @Bos / @Min

I've bolded 6 really-should-win games there out of 13. All of those teams are currently .250 or under. Then there are Boston (.389), Brooklyn (.444), and Milwaukee (.500) who are putting up mediocre records in the East, for three more relatively winnable games. Let's say we win 7 of those 9.

There are four games left. Between the Warriors, Rockets, Suns, and newly-whole Thunder, we pull off one upset, so 1-3. That makes us 8-5 in a stretch without Cousins and puts us 3 games over .500. This is not implausible. From there our schedule stiffens up, but all we need is for Cousins to come back, go into beast mode, and we make the playoffs.

Oddly enough, his extended absence is coming at the right time, just so long as we can avoid things like the Orlando Debacle.
 
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I think sometimes we can forget just how many good players teams like the Spurs and Bulls have. Also easy to forget is how long the teams coaching staff and players have been together. Pop is headed to the HOF and Thibs is the best Defensive Guru in the Association. Tim Duncan while near the end has had a storied career. He is the Big Fundamental for a reason.

Consider how many really good established veterans each team has then compare them to the Kings.

Consider the Bulls. If you take Rose from the Bulls they still have Noah, Gasol, Gibson, Hinrich, Dunleavy and Jimmy Butler. Add to that Snell, Brooks, Mohammed, Mirotic and McDermott that is still a solid team.

Then we have the Spurs. Minus Hall of Famer Duncan they still have Parker, Leonard, Ginobilli, Diaw, Belinelli and Splitter. Sprinkle in Bonner, Green, Mills, Joseph and Daye. Once again that is a solid team.

I think it is unfair and hasty to judge Malone at a point when his best player Boogie is under the weather for a couple weeks AND the Lead Assistant is out with an injury.

This sort of brings to mind the old "Kick him when he is down" saying. Were you saying this when the Kings were running the table:)

It is a long season and there is still time to see what we will see.

KB
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What's the deal on "lead asst being out with an injury"? Is Corbin out?
 
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Capt. Factorial said:
Schedule is important to keep in mind here. We've got the following to come in December (and I'll include Jan. 1 as a road back-to-back):

Uta / @LAL / Hou / Det / OKC / Mil / LAL / @GSW / Pho / NYK / @Brk / @Bos / @Min

I've bolded 6 really-should-win games there out of 13. All of those teams are currently .250 or under. Then there are Boston (.389), Brooklyn (.444), and Milwaukee (.500) who are putting up mediocre records in the East, for three more relatively winnable games. Let's say we win 7 of those 9.

There are four games left. Between the Warriors, Rockets, Suns, and newly-whole Thunder, we pull off one upset, so 1-3. That makes us 8-5 in a stretch without Cousins and puts us 3 games over .500. This is not implausible. From there our schedule stiffens up, but all we need is for Cousins to come back, go into beast mode, and we make the playoffs.

Oddly enough, his extended absence is coming at the right time, just so long as we can avoid things like the Orlando Debacle.
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Agreed I think we in 7-9 placing us in a good spot. We would need PDA to get 1 more player for us in the next month (lance it smith). If we do that we can still make the playoffs if we play like we did first 10 games and adding 1 of those players.
 
Chubbs

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HereWeVivek said:
well it's already been well over 10 days and it's not like it looks like he's about to get back in the gym, instead we are hearing reports that he still looks extremely ill and could be out a month. Doesn't sound like the same virus i just read about at all
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No, today is day 10.
 
Chubbs

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If you read Kings's statement carefully, they say nothing about a return date.

Really Dave is saying nothing new. They say he'll play when he's healthy. No one knows when that will be.

Although I panicked too. But this is not new info from my reading of the Kings statement. They really just say a minimum of one week, with really no idea how much longer after that.

The 7-10 thing came from the cdc, not the King's doctors. I think I posted it. That's by no means definitive in relation to Boogie.
 
Bricklayer

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Capt. Factorial said:
Oddly enough, his extended absence is coming at the right time, just so long as we can avoid things like the Orlando Debacle.
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And the Indiana near debacle.

and the 17 of 18 losses, 16 of those 17 coming on our home floor, the last 2 years.


Well, one way or the other this is our season. People can kid themselves all they want but barring an equalizing injury amongst the power teams there may be SEVEN 55+ teams in the West this year. And that's not counting OKC who is back healthy and all of 3 whole games behind us now. If Cuz were to miss the month by the time he got back that cushion would be just about gone, and so you would be talking about outdueling an annual 60win team the last 3 months of the season for that final spot.

It goes without saying that the remaining team, which has been semi-stripped of individual talent on purpose to complement Cousins and was never truly designed to function without him, either has to immediately figure it out or we are done.

Let's put it this way:

OKC has to go 40-22 to reach 47 wins. a .645 win% or 53 game win pace. They can do that in their sleep. OKC is the squad sneaking up to put a sleeper hold on the season. Phoenix/Denver/New Orleans? Maybe they stumble, maybe you can squeak past them. But there is an 8th great team in the West and now its getting healthy. On top of the other misfortunes is not being lucky enough to play in the East, where you could just laugh this off and go print your playoff tickets anyway.

We're 10-10. If we go:
8-5 over the next 13, we'd have to go 30-19 .612 win% to reach 48 wins
5-8 over the next 13, we'd have to go 33-16 .673 win% to reach 48 wins
 
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206Fan

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CD shouldn't be reporting things like that. Sure, he wants to be the 1st to let the world know, but this damages his credibility. Now you know he's not going to get any more insider information from the Kings. If the Kings wanted us to know how long Boogie would be out or to what extent his illness is, they would tell us.
 
Chubbs

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206Fan said:
CD shouldn't be reporting things like that. Sure, he wants to be the 1st to let the world know, but this damages his credibility. Now you know he's not going to get any more insider information from the Kings. If the Kings wanted us to know how long Boogie would be out or to what extent his illness is, they would tell us.
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They don't know. It's not something that can be known. He's healthy when he's healthy. That's up to his immune system.

Their statement said he'd be out at least a week. That's all it said. Read it again.
 
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Chubbs said:
They don't know. It's not something that can be known. He's healthy when he's healthy. That's up to his immune system.

Their statement said he'd be out at least a week. That's all it said. Read it again.
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I'm saying that the Kings will release things when they want them to be released. All this speculation sucks. I've read somewhere that the Kings wanted to be DL about what was wrong with Cuz till someone leaked it out, which is why they decided to give out a statement. Same thing is happening here.. CD going off of whatever he knows making early assumptions that Cousins will be out till January..

Why can't he be like the rest of us and wait for official words from the Kings? The Kings will release what they want the public to know, but for CD to go out there and say he's heard "chatters" is a little ..... It makes me question his credibility and knowledge.
 
kingsboi

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If he really is out a month or close to it...I sure hope Pete goes out and makes a trade to give us a fighting chance to compete for that 8th spot...otherwise it's time to mail it in because we aren't going to win a lot of games until he gets back and even when he does get back...who knows how long it will take him to get back into basketball shape. sigh. how quickly a season can go down the toilet when you play in the wild wild west.
 
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This is all an my educated assessment so take it with a grain of salt...
1. If this is truly viral meningitis then I would guess it'd be closer to 7-10 days and he will have some conditioning and fatigue issue. If he really look that ill and we're talking until then January, then he should have been admitted to the hospital already not be released a few days ago.

2. They may not know what he has. Viral meningitis alot of time is a partial diagnosis of exclusion. I'm assuming they did an lumbar puncture and test his fluid otherwise it's borderline malpractice to just assume he has viral meningitis. The composition of the lumbar fluid can point you toward more of a viral infection rather than bacterial but it can also be normal which you can get with a viral infection. Since you cant necessarily test for viral infection that well, then you just have to go based on your gut instinct. Which could be completely wrong altogether...
 
Glenn

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Chubbs said:
CD better be right. That's all I can say. Cause what's he's reporting is extremely morally questionable if he's not sure.
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He gave himself an out by saying he just heard chatter. He is not claiming it is true. That's part of why I am so pissed.
 
lwc

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I certainly hope Dave is wrong but at the same time, I want Boogie back when he is ready. THIS is the time to win if we want to make the playoffs so some Cuz is better than no Cuz.
 
Chubbs

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I agree that CD has no business posting that.

I'm sure the chatter said it could be as late as January. I'm sure someone close said that. Honestly, it could be longer. It could be he's ready next week.

The point is no one knows. The fact they are giving week by week updates does indicate it realistically could be a while.

The other point is that both the Kings doctors and CD released vague statements. I think we all saw out this week and desperately wanted to see the part about being back next week. That's not in there. I looked hard for it.
 
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So Dave went from refusing to report on the Cousins diagnosis that was a "well known" secret in his circle and playing dumb... to throwing out potential recovery timelines without giving any context as to either the probability of that timeline or the nature of his source (medical people or lay-people relaying 2nd or 3rd hand information on the diagnosis). Not exactly Walter Cronkite
 
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