do you think DMC and rudy gay will both be selected as first time NBA all stars this season

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hahnhan

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DMC look like a lock as a NBA all star this year. He's currently ranked as a seasonal MVP nominee and if he keeps escalating his game. I'm sure he will be an all star . If he doesn't get selected by the fans as one of the starting forward positions, he can be picked by coaches as a reserve or wild card. Remember the NBA changed the all star position format and got rid of the center position..

As for rudy , he's always been a proven scorer for many years in the NBA. He's not Kevin Durant , lebron James, melo , paul george at the small forward spot, but he's been an underrated player and always behind those four...

As a wishful thinking true kings fan..yes I believe they both can make it..only if the kings are a top 3 team in the west on all star weekend... But if were not a top 3 team in the west ...I still think cousins will make it as one of the big men representing the west..
 
Bricklayer

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Cousins should make it as long as we are hovering anywhere around .500 by mid Jan, and with the soft schedule coming up, I have hopes we can be doing a lot better than that.

Gay only makes it, barring injuries to people, if we REALLY blow up with the weak schedule. You squint and hope and we could make 26-14 or some such by the time the forever homestand is over. Then all of a sudden the possibility of a second King as an All-Star gets at least considered, although I still really doubt it. West is too tough. In the East when all you have to do is outpoint a Paul Milsap or somebody? Anything is possible out here.
 
Chupacabra

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Sorry to take anything away from the thread poster but I no longer give any merit to all star selections. I will feel this way As long as the selection process involves fan voting.
 
Bricklayer

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Chupacabra said:
Sorry to take anything away from the thread poster but I no longer give any merit to all star selections. I will feel this way As long as the selection process involves fan voting.
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People however act like its ALL fan voting, and its not.

Only the 5 starters are fan voted. And every year maybe 1 or 2 guys tops wouldn't have been an All Star at all without it (looking at you Kobe). The other 7 are picked by the coaches. If anybody is hurt that's filled by the commissioner. So yes yes, popularity contest to start, but after that its closer to merit, or at least its popularity amongst a different demographic -- may not be accidental Boogie going up to coaches after games to make friends. Somebody may have tipped him off that schmoozing helps.
 
Chupacabra

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Bricklayer said:
People however act like its ALL fan voting, and its not.

Only the 5 starters are fan voted. And every year maybe 1 or 2 guys tops wouldn't have been an All Star at all without it (looking at you Kobe). The other 7 are picked by the coaches. If anybody is hurt that's filled by the commissioner. So yes yes, popularity contest to start, but after that its closer to merit, or at least its popularity amongst a different demographic -- may not be accidental Boogie going up to coaches after games to make friends. Somebody may have tipped him off that schmoozing helps.
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I should have added this to my original post; All star selections are an award for the play of an individual player. Too often people reason that a player shouldn't be an all star if his team doesn't win. Wins are achieved by a team. So when I hear that Cousins didn't make the all star team because his team doesn't win...
 
Bricklayer

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Chupacabra said:
I should have added this to my original post; All star selections are an award for the play of an individual player. Too often people reason that a player shouldn't be an all star if his team doesn't win. Wins are achieved by a team. So when I hear that Cousins didn't make the all star team because his team doesn't win...
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Oh I agree with that one. Last year's nonsense truly exposed what an arbitrary bit of crap had taken hold even amongst the coaches. You could expect them to know who the stars were regardless of win/loss. But turns out they treated W/L in just as much of a holy grail fashion as numbnuts amateurs using it as the crudest of all possible measures of individual worth.
 
kingsboi

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Cousins is a shoe in...as far as Gay, I don't see how he can't make it in, he has Durant and Leonard ahead of him most likely and if the Kings have a respectable record by the time February rolls around, it's not out of the question.
 
Chupacabra

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kingsboi said:
Cousins is a shoe in...as far as Gay, I don't see how he can't make it in, he has Durant and Leonard ahead of him most likely and if the Kings have a respectable record by the time February rolls around, it's not out of the question.
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Why would leonard be ahead of Gay? I have a feeling that the answer is because his team wins.
 
IfAt1st

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A) Neither of them will make it on the fan ballot, that's for sure.
B) As I predicted back in Feb, Boogie will be a coach's selection this year (there won't be 7 more worthy coach's selections)
C) As Brick says, if Sac is high in the rankings at the end of the homestand, and Rudy's been killing it..... maybe he gets in. Kawhi's stats won't be good enough, and everyone thinks of the Spurs as Duncan/Parker/Ginobli's team. Durant may well be injured/lingering still. Gay playing for Team USA may well put him high in the coach's minds of Western SF's.
 
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randymoss1881

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There's 0.0 chance if Gay making it none no matter how good he plays but I'm sure he doesn't care at this point is his career.

The fans will vote in curry, Kobe, KD, blake, and davis

While coaches will take Gasol, klay, Aldridge, lillard, Boogie, harden
Westbrook
 
FaStRmAn

FaStRmAn

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As has been said here already, the ALL Star selections are mostly a popularity contest. Even when you factor in coaches voting. After last season and the way Cuz played and he was left off the team, I am very leery of the voting process for the All Star game selection.

That being said, if Big Cuz continues playing at his current pace, we may very well see a King starting for the West. I am biased, but I think he is the best Center in the league. Kings as a team need to be hovering around .500 and I think Cousins will be hard to keep off the All Star team. As far as most on this site are concerned he already IS an all-star.

I remember when Cousins was drafted and they had a team function out at the Galleria in the Sacramento team tennis arena. It was super hot that day, but I was excited to see Cousins and Hassan Whiteside. I was certain that the Kings fortunes had changed that day and that both were going to make a big difference. But I bought a Cousins Jersey that day and I have never been sorry that I did. I still follow Whiteside and I hope some day he makes it into the NBA.
 
twslam07

twslam07

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Being in the west, it would be pretty hard for this team to have two all star appearances when the team is hovering around .500. There's just so much talent in this conference. I do think Gay is an all-star caliber player. It's really just semantics...
 
twslam07

twslam07

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randymoss1881 said:
There's 0.0 chance if Gay making it none no matter how good he plays but I'm sure he doesn't care at this point is his career.

The fans will vote in curry, Kobe, KD, blake, and davis

While coaches will take Gasol, klay, Aldridge, lillard, Boogie, harden
Westbrook
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I have a really hard time seeing the coaches not picking CP3...
 
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KingMilz

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HereWeVivek said:
DeMarcus needs to be an All-Star starter next to Anthony Davis. They better not put that turd Blake Griffin in there
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I'm going to play devils advocate for a second but to me if we are not in the playoff hunt and Dwight returns soon, Cousins shockingly could miss out again, while I do think Cousins should be a lock but with the way they have been selecting it's not that certain unless we are in the playoff hunt and above 500.

Assuming they select 6 front-court players (Kobe is back so he's a lock and Davis was his replacement meaning there were 7 frontcourt players last year), if we are not in a position for a top 8 seed (like 2-3 games away), I could see this happening

#Howard (depending when he returns/team record/reputation/could be voted in)
#Dirk (based on teams record)
#LMA (based on teams record)...also depending on Lillards play he could miss out, one of those two has to get in
#Griffin (voted in so basically a lock)
#Davis (will be voted in a lock and if he's not he's 100% making it before Cuz based on media and so on and they will completely disregard the Pelicans record like they did last season)
#Durrant (will be voted in regardless when he returns a lock)
#Marc Gasol (current leader for MVP candidate/team record/massive media hype and rightfully so) so basically a lock

Dallas/Portland due to there records and how players get put in have to have a representative. There literally could be a situation where he misses out again wrongfully which would be complete bs but not a complete surprise to me.
 
HereWeBoogie

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I agree Rudy should make it. But if Durant is eligible, which i believe he will be since he could return as soon as this weekend, i don't think it will happen though
 
HereWeBoogie

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andremiller07 said:
I'm going to play devils advocate for a second but to me if we are not in the playoff hunt and Dwight returns soon, Cousins shockingly could miss out again, while I do think Cousins should be a lock but with the way they have been selecting it's not that certain unless we are in the playoff hunt and above 500.

Assuming they select 6 front-court players (Kobe is back so he's a lock and Davis was his replacement meaning there were 7 frontcourt players last year), if we are not in a position for a top 8 seed (like 2-3 games away), I could see this happening

#Howard (depending when he returns/team record/reputation/could be voted in)
#Dirk (based on teams record)
#LMA (based on teams record)...also depending on Lillards play he could miss out, one of those two has to get in
#Griffin (voted in so basically a lock)
#Davis (will be voted in a lock and if he's not he's 100% making it before Cuz based on media and so on and they will completely disregard the Pelicans record like they did last season)
#Durrant (will be voted in regardless when he returns a lock)
#Marc Gasol (current leader for MVP candidate/team record/massive media hype and rightfully so) so basically a lock

Dallas/Portland due to there records and how players get put in have to have a representative. There literally could be a situation where he misses out again wrongfully which would be complete bs but not a complete surprise to me.
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You have a point.

just more reasons to ban conferences. Remember some of the scrubs on last years East all-star team?
 
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Gilles

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Dirk is 19,5ppg+under 6rpg kind of guy this season with under career numbers in assists, steals and blocks as well. I know it's not much different than last year, but at some point he will miss it like Tim. Portland is also 11-6 in H/A games, so they will slip, Lillard is playing out of his mind after early season slump, so he's a favorite to make ASG from Blazers.
Most importantly though is that if Kings are under .500 by mid-January Boogie is either injured or regressed massively, and should miss this ASG.
 
Bricklayer

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Sac.1989 said:
rudy should make it . Hes the best SF in the west currently
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yes, but its just frontcourt and backcourt, and Durant will be back soon and presumably get voted in (unless Davis mania leads to him being outpointed)

7 frontcourt spots:
Durant
Blake
Davis
Howard (interesting case...if he still get voted in yes, if not...?)
Cousins
Gasol

that's 6

then Aldridge or Dirk? Here is where Rudy would have to sneak in.
 
Sac.1989

Sac.1989

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he wont get the recognition he deserves. Unlike the national media who have finally come around to boogie, rudy is still viewed as an ineffective chucker by many.

screw em, we've got one of the best offensive combo's in the league
 
VF21

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DFC is THE talk of the league among fans who have seen him play this year, along with all those who saw him during FIBA. I honestly do not see ANY way he does not make All-Star.
 
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