[Grades] Grades v. Pelicans 11/18/2014

Which Pel did us in the most?

  • Anthony Davis

    Votes: 12 17.1%
  • Ryan Anderson

    Votes: 46 65.7%
  • Tyreke Evans

    Votes: 11 15.7%
  • Eric Gordon

    Votes: 1 1.4%

  • Total voters
    70
  • Poll closed .

Bricklayer

Don't Make Me Use The Bat
#1


Disappointed!

Can I take back my desire to make sure Rudy played in this one now? Not that Rudy alone lost it. In fact in many ways this was the most "solid" loss we had all season. No great story to it. We were better in the first half, worse after half, and we lost. No grand collapse, no records shattered, no upset. Pretty evenly matched teams, but we simply did not get enough good performances, and got pulled down by various gremlins we have been trying to hide under the carpet. Rudy heard national TV and decided to mess up his rep with a return to forcing selfishly. Ben turned back into a pumpkin at the worst time. Nik hit a couple of shots, and then the Pelicans drew a target around him and attacked him right out of the game. Landry absolutely refused to guard Ryan Anderson, and so the Pelicans decided they would just keep on getting open threes until he changed his mind. McCallum still does nothing half the time he's out there. We STILL don't have anybody to stop our old player Reke, who reeked for the first half, then came on strong and just went around Ben and Rudy like they were standing still after half (which in turn frees Davis up)., and hit the dagger on a dupplicate move of his very first game winner for us his rookie year (vs. Denver, over Kenyon Martin). Even Malone made some odd substitution decisions, leaving people on for mysterious amounts of time, forgetting about others (JT may have been our 2nd best player and designated Brow stopper but the Pels were able to chase him from the game by playing Anderson).

On a more positive note Boogie v. Davis was good. Boogie at least took this national TV opportunity to burnish his burgeoning cred. And if we could clone 4 more copies of Casspi, we might actually have ourselves a bench.


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Boxscore

Stats: 37min 15pts (6-17, 0-2, 3-5) 4reb 5ast 1stl 0blk 4TO
Gay ( D+ ) -- not exactly the performance to stoke the enthusiasm for tomorrow's press conference for his new contract. Got off to a slow start in this one and only had 5pts and 1 reb through the first quarter. He returned at the 8min mark of the second but in what would become a nightlong issue despite the Pelicans not having a good matchup to slow him (they tried both little guards and Luke Babbit) he was still cold and not able to take advantage. What finally got him going was a hustle play, coming up with a strong offensive board and follow off a missed FT. And he followed that up clicking into gear, added another jumper, a three, a good hustle board...the lead opened and it looked like it was just a slow start. Was not to be though. We came out in the third repeately going to him in the post vs. Tyreke, but he could just never gain a clear enough advantage, kept getting the ball poked away by the guards he was tryng to overpower, and worst of all really began to play a particularly selfish forcing style of basketball that became a poster child for an offensive collapse that saw us notch 0 assists for the entire quarter. Worse, Tyreke began to awake the other way and open up a can of whoopass on us again (he dropped 18pts 4reb and 5ast in the second half). And because he was forcing, and not hitting, Gay was almost useless as a supposed stabilizer to get us through those scary bench moments. There was a lone 3pt play at the 9 min mark, but it would be the last time Gay scored, and worse than not scoring he continued to get hurt on defense and take offensive touches away from the Big Guy who WAS scoring. Unfortunately timed bad game, and I'm not sure whether to hope it was because of, or that it had nothing to do with the possible Achilles tendinitis. Another national TV game on Thursday. TNT this time. Has to be better.--Brick

Stats: 25min 15pts (6-10, 0-0, 3-4) 9reb 0ast 0stl 0blk 2TO
Thompson ( A- ) -- just to prove that last year was not a fluke, Jason came out here and once again, get this, pretty much took it to Anthony Davis. JT's work against some of the league's top PFs remains his single best argument why he should stay the starting PF. But tonight it wasn't just his nearly unique in the league ability to get into Davis and make his life difficult defensively, he also came out of the gates scoring, and in fact at halftime led us in scoring, and had basically matched Davis point for point. There were one or two post moves, but mostly he was a beneficiary of our strong first half ball movement, and in particular of the attention they were paying Cousins, and Cuz's willingness to quickly move the ball to beat those doubles. He moved to the hoop and guys were finding him. What was surprising was the degree to which Davis's presence really didn't bother him defensively. He ended up getting his 10th point of the first quarter unintentionally throwing the ball off the glass and seeing it ricochet in. We went with the shorter bench rotations again, and kept JT on as a fullsized center to anchor the bench teams inside, but other than drawing a few fouls on Ajinca trying to hold him to keep him away from boards, he wasn't as effective. Per usual that bench crew needed points, and while JT was thriving early as the forgotten man with the starters, he wasn't going to beat guys 1 on 1. After leaving the game for a spell after clumsily running over Ryan Anderson in the open court for his 2nd foul, he returned for the final minutes of the half (replacing Cuz who also had 2 fouls), resumed playing really good defense on Davis, and even went right at Davis and got a strong hoop right in his chest in the final minute of the half. Unfortunately there was a halftime break however, and the game turned thereafter, and soon didn't even include JT at all. We came out flat in the third, and while JT was still playing some very active/physical defense on Davis for a while, the ball movement died, our guards resumed absolutely refusing to hit an open shot, and then the twin disasters of Ryan Anderson and Reke waking up happened. And the Ryan Anderson thing was the real kicker. The Pelicans realized they were losing the big man battle of Ajinca/Davis vs. Cousins/Thompson, and so after half they largely gave up trying to play a big center on Cuz, and instead went to Anderson, who apparently just entered the league yesterday so surprised did our guys seem by his 3pt shooting game. Malone got spooked that JT couldn't stay with him on the perimeter (and really, since JT's job was to stop Davis, it would have been Boogie staying with Anderson if we wanted to keep the JT/Davis matchup), went to the bench first for Landry with apparent instructions to absolutely not guard the big guy at the 3pt line under any circumstances, and then to Casspi, who was a logical matchup. And with Casspi again providing some bigtime hustle as well as having the size/mobility to stay with Anderson, JT was basically finished for the rest of the game. Wasn't his play, it was a smart substitution by the Pels, and a coaching decision on our part. --Brick

Stats: 34min 24pts (10-18, 0-0, 4-7) 17reb 3ast 0stl 2blk 3TO
Cousins ( A- ) -- well, if there was one piece of good news about this thing, it was that Boogie showed well against Davis in a game people were paying attention to, setting the potential stage for a natural Boogie v. Brow rivalry in upcoming years if we can just lock in this whole winning thing. And in the early going it was a noticeably smart and focused Cuz, almost too interested in playing it right. He had multiple strong contests form the beginning of the game, including one on Davis insde, and he came up with a great contest of an A.D. jumper at the end of the first, forcing an airball. And he did it while avoiding fouls on a night when he and the refs finally weren't a major story (a couple of his calls actually were of the ticky-tack variety, but he was barely limited minutes wise this time). He was on the glass from the beginning, mopping up everything on the defensive boards. And he was efficient offensively, very efficient as the Pelicans were doubling him and Cuz was patiently picking them apart with his passing. A picking apart that would have been more obvious in his statline if Ben McLemore was a better shooter than my great aunt Myrtle. He flashed in a couple of strong offensive moves, a drive right through the scrawnies the Pels call a frontcourt when Asik is out, a nice hook shot over the middle, he got his 6th point while flipping up a shot while spinning and getting hit, and ended up in a heap with Davis as A.D. tripped over him. But in general he was making the right pass, the right play, not forcing any issue, and I think he only had 5 or 6 shots by halftime. But his overall play was very strong, and a beefy 8pt 9reb type half where you could feel his impact, while A.D. was scoring more, but had kind of a soft and empty 14pts 3reb. Unfortunately we did not come out of half in good shape, and Cuz was about the only King who seemed to have kept his focus. And as other guys started to really struggle and force, the gap between the play of Cuz and the rest of the team only got larger. He started getting aggressive, maybe a bit too much as he started to get into it with the refs a bit. But whatever it was, he surged at the end of the quarter and pretty much singlehandedly was holding us in it. Got a strong +1 finish. Made a spectacular chasedown block in the open court that you thought surely was going to get him his 4th foul, but he got it clean. Added another drive, and until a poor selfish force in the final seconds that ended up costing us a hoop the other way (and on which it was blatantly obvious he had no confidence in McCallum standing wide open 10 feet to his right) was carrying us. We probably sat him too long in the early 4th, as he only had 3 fouls, and we needed every minute of his we could get. When he did get back in you were treated to the frustrating lack of recognition by his teamamtes, as the Pels got away with guarding him with Ryan Anderson because our nitwits couldn't recognize the obvious mismatcha dn execute a simple ball reversal to go pound on it. He played big down the stretch again but we were never able to get the stops to close the gap. We poured in 31 in the 4th...and let the Pels counter with 30. Boogie got a big muscle +1 at the 1:10 mark to cut the lead back to 3 and give us a legit shot, but it was old friend Tyreke who ended up once again rubbing our noses in it, duplicating his game winning move rookie season over Kenyon Martin, droving into the lane, spinning, and sinking the little fallaway jumper over Cuz's outstretched hand. Good battle, and if there was any comfort for me in this loss, it was in that the Boogie rehabilitation narrative was not damaged. He did his part, he just didn't get much help this time. --Brick

Stats: 29min 2pts (1-6, 0-3, 0-0) 3reb 1ast 1stl 0blk 2TO
McLemore ( D+ ) -- Tough shooting night for Ben. In 29 minutes of play, he managed two points on one of six shooting while going zero for three from hinterland. About the only thing Ben did very well tonight was play defense. Never thought I'd say that! He started off the game by staying in front of Gordon and making him give up the ball. However at the other end, he took a pass from Collison just past mid-court and drove to the basket and missed. He followed a bit later with a drive down the left baseline against two defenders and threw up a wild looking shot that had no chance of going in. Both shots were highly contested, but his next miss was a wide open three from from the right elbow. No good from there, lets try it from the left elbow. Same result! He went to the bench at 1:13 of the first quarter and came back at 6:31 of the second quarter. Defensively, once again he was solid. In one instance he did a great job on Holiday. He managed to squeeze in both his turnovers in the remaining time in the second quarter. One a bad pass, and the other a travel. He started the third quarter by blowing down the lane and laying it in for his only basket of the night. He managed two more misses in the second half. One, another wide open three from the right corner, and the other, a pull up 10 footer that he left short. His one glorious moment came in the last two minutes of the game when the Kings were trying desperately to claw their way back into the game, when he stole the ball from Gordon. Too little too late though. Believe it or not, Ben actually got a plus one in the plus/minus rating. And I believe Cousins got a minus 8. Someone explain to me why that rating has any merit. I]--Baja[/I]

Stats: 31min 13pts (3-10, 2-3, 5-6) 2reb 11ast 0stl 0blk 0TO
Collison ( C ) -- Collison started the game out on fire. He tallied up 5 assists in the first quarter and another 3 in the second quarter. While in my opinion two of those assists were home cooking, there were several very good ones, including a very nice leading entry pass to a fronted Cousins for a dunk. Going into half, Collison was 2-4 (2-3 from three) and was 5-5 from the line for 11 points to go along with his 8 assists. Then he came in for the third quarter and completely forgot how to play. He went 0-4, repeatedly passing up good shots to set worse shots and contributed zero assists - it wasn't that people were missing, because he only set up one shot in his 8.5 minutes in the third. It was a miserable quarter, but things didn't get better when he went to the bench, and despite McCallum doing his best Ramon Sessions impression Coach Malone iced Collison on the bench for nearly a full 12 minutes. It's a shame, because when Collison came back in the fourth, he sparked the team. The Pelicans committed two consecutive turnovers and Collison threw ahead to Omri for a layup on the first and was on the receiving end of a layup only a few seconds later to get the team and the crowd back into it. He then fed Cousins in the paint for an and-1 before New Orleans finally put the hammer down. He rushed and missed a "freebie" three that could have turned into a huge four-point play when Cousins was fouled while he was in the process of shooting, and that was basically that. Defensively, his numbers will look very good tonight. My charting has Collison allowing 5 points on 9 shots, which is fantastic, but it is worth noting that the Pelican were able to peel Darren off the ballhandler with screens basically at will - it's just that they chose to do this in the first half when our help defense was outstanding. Perhaps going away from that was part of what gave them some success in the third quarter. At any rate, Collison didn't get consistently burned, and he ended up with 8 real assists and 3 home-cooking assists on top of that, so that pretty much counteracts his miserable third quarter into an average game. --Capt.
 
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Bricklayer

Don't Make Me Use The Bat
#2
Bench

Stats: 21min 5pts (2-4, 1-2, 0-0) 2reb 0ast 0stl 0blk 2TO
McCallum ( D- ) -- In a surprise, McCallum came off the bench as the backup PG instead of Ramon Sessions. For all of the complaints we've had about Sessions, I don't think he could possibly have done any less than Ray, who brought basically nothing to the table tonight. He was asked to play defense primarily on Austin Rivers, which isn't exactly a tough matchup, so it's not clear why Ramon was benched. But coming up to the 5:30 mark of the fourth quarter, McCallum had contributed exactly 0 assists, two rebounds, and two points (those having come only very recently on a fast break), leading to a team-worst +/- for the game. It seemed relatively obvious that after a timeout Darren Collison would come back in, but inexplicably Malone stuck with Ray, who immediately hit a three, but followed that up by turning the ball over on an ill-advised drop off pass on a drive. I guess Ray could have been worse, but not much. --Capt.

Stats: 19min 5pts (2-4, 1-1, 0-0) 1reb 1ast 0stl 0blk 0TO
Stauskas ( C- ) -- Well, Nik got some minutes tonight for a change. And he played reasonably well. The good news is that he shot 50% from the floor. The bad news is that he only took four shots. And that's one of my criticisms tonight. Nik passed up 3 wide open shots, and another one that was close to being open. There was one more that he could have shot, but instead made a nice pass to Gay who was cutting to the basket, so I'll excuse him on that one. He hit his first two shots, one a contested three from about 4 to 5 feet behind the three point line. The other a long two (his foot was on the line) that he shot off the dribble. Defensively, he put in the effort, and for the most part, he fared pretty well in the first half. In the second half, the Beaks decided to attack him with Gordon, who is a tough guard for Nik. Gordon is stronger, and a little quicker. Gordon either drove and dished, or drove and pulled up for a fade away. I can't fault Nik for his effort, and if nothing else, it was a good learning experience for him. He needs to be in the weight room this coming summer. Nik did make some very nice entry passes, one a bullet pass to Landry under the basket. Unfortunately only the one to Gay resulted in a basket. So, he wasn't great, but for the most part, he held down the fort while he was in there. --Baja

Stats: 16min 8pt (3-6, 0-0, 2-2) 9reb 0ast 1stl 0blk 0TO
Landry ( C+ ) -- Landry came in the game in the beginning of the 2nd quarter. From the beginning it was clear that this would be a difficult game for him. He started guarding Davis which was a grave mismatch. However, his first stint on the floor did not look all that bad mainly because of Casspi. Casspi drove to the hoop and found Landry for an easy layup. Not long after that Landry had the ball. When Casspi rotated to the basket, the defense followed him leaving Carl for a wide open jumper. After some 6.5 minutes Landry returned to the bench with 4 points and 2 rebounds. Not bad, but that period let the Pelicans back to the game do to defensive problems, especially Anderson shooting easily over the top. Coming in in the end of the 3rd quarter Carl fouled Davis who was able to convert the free throws. In the continuation Carl was able to score one layup and two FTs, but missed on easy tip and and a jumper. On the very positive side were 9 rebounds of which 4 offensive. The major thing to keep his contribution in the C area was the defensive problems keeping Davis and especially Anderson from scoring. Carl was not able to defend in the perimeter. You just saw how easily Anderson got to shoot his 3-balls. --Kingston

Stats: 28min 13pts (5-11, 0-0, 3-5) 5reb 2ast 0stl 0blk 2TO
Casspi ( B+ ) -- Omri did everything asked of him in 28 minutes. From the late 1st period through the entire 2nd and late 3rd all through the 4th, his foot speed was impressive on offense, he became a badge on some Pelican shirts defending and kept with his man most of the time. He made 3 driving layups directly at Anthony Davis and held his primary men guarded to 3 buckets. Had 5 of 11 shooting, 5 reb, 13 pts and 2 ast in 28 min. But his value is the hustle, fearlessness and unreal foot speed on offense. On entering the game late in the first, of all players, he ended up guarrding John Salmons!! But by the 2nd never saw Fish again. His two assists happened in quick succession: a bounce pass to Nik for a swish 2, and a bounce pass to Landry in the lane who took two long steps for quick layin. First quick 2 was a drive along baseline past his defender. He had other assists, one creating a fast break 2 that did not show in final stats. All in all deserved his grade and played consistently for all 28 min. From this moment on Omri is my guy for 6th Man of the Year!! --Cruz

Stats: 1min 0pts (0-0, 0-0, 0-0) 0reb 0ast 0stl 0blk 0TO
Hollins ( INC ) -- just the final 0play of the first half trying to keep Cuz or JT from getting their third foul. Made a challenge up high on an open court play, but the ball was passed behind him to the man he had left, and nobody picked him up for the layup. --Brick
 
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KingMilz

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#4
Casspi, Cuz and Collison were good aside from that everyone was terrible and that pretty much sums up the game. No way did we deserve to win giving up that many open dunks/lay-ups and playing Ryan Anderson like he was the 2nd coming of DeAndre Jordan.

We need to learn how to defend the pick n roll better and we also need a big man on this team that know's how to roll the rim (like Davis was doing all night) for easy basket's we have no had one in a near decade.
 
#5
Landry should have never been guarding Anderson to begin with, thats just bad coaching, put Omri on him. The momentum of this game turned when we gave Anderson all those wide open looks. Just a bad coaching job tonight by Malone, wasn't out coached, just out coached himself. We had so many mismatches out there that all we needed to do was slow the game down and execute. Blame the players too for some really poor turnovers that got their ball rolling.
 
#6
Part of the Ryan Anderson deal was the Kings over comitting to deny the lob. I would have let Cousins/JT have their chance to try and deny the lob themselves rather than have Anderson's man double down. The main thing is that you could ice the PnR and Anderson's man help down, which then allows Davis's man to show on the angle of the pass to Ryno and then rotate back down.
 
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KingMilz

Guest
#7
Part of the Ryan Anderson deal was the Kings over comitting to deny the lob. I would have let Cousins/JT have their chance to try and deny the lob themselves rather than have Anderson's man double down. The main thing is that you could ice the PnR and Anderson's man help down, which then allows Davis's man to show on the angle of the pass to Ryno and then rotate back down.
Did we? We literally gave up 20 points on lobs to Davis we were horrible at stopping either, the pick n roll D was a disaster that game.
 

Mr. S£im Citrus

Doryphore of KingsFans.com
Staff member
#8
Did we? We literally gave up 20 points on lobs to Davis we were horrible at stopping either, the pick n roll D was a disaster that game.
How many of those lobs came before Thompson went to the bench, though? The pick and roll defense was, indeed, terrible, but it didn't really become so until Thompson sat down. We didn't start leaving their perimeter shooters open on the pick/double team until we no longer had a player on the floor who could defend Davis in single coverage.

Davis got virtually nothing against Thompson, and what he did get was always a tough shot. Then, we took Thompson off the floor, because we couldn't afford to take Cousins' offense out, and neither he nor Thompson can defend Anderson. So, Thompson goes out and, bam, Davis starts getting easy baskets. Then we start doubling and cheating off the pick and, bam, Anderson starts getting wide-open threes.
 
#9
I think the elephant in the room is how pathetic our playmaking is. Too reliant on Boogie and DMC to create for themselves. Collison leads the team with 6 APG, then Gay with 3, and then DMC is third with 1.8. Almost 70% of our team averages less than 1 APG.

Malone also has to cut these Popovic style lineups out. Why is Boogie sitting so long? Why is there even a second in the game when Boogie and Gay are out at the same time? Why is Stauskas allowed to make Eric gordon look like Steph Curry all fourth quarter? Awful rotation.
 
#10
One thing I also want to note about Stauskas is something I've noted in a previous game.. (I can't remember which one it was but it was the SAME look). When he got burned by Gordon and Collison was set to come into the game he turned and had this look like "I don't belong out here please take me out" type look. His confidence is very low right now. Some of it is his shooting but I think most of it has to do with the fact that he can't stay in front of anybody. Eric Gordon is by no means a speedster and he made him look like he was Steph Curry out there. Really think he should go down to the D-League so he can get enough time to learn more defense and get his confidence back.
 
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One thing I also want to note about Stauskas is something I've noted in a previous game.. (I can't remember which one it was but it was the SAME look). When he got burned by Gordon and Collison was set to come into the game he turned and had this look like "I don't belong out here please take me out" type look. His confidence is very low right now. Some of it is his shooting but I think most of it has to do with the fact that he can't stay in front of anybody. Eric Gordon is by no means a speedster and he made him look like he was Steph Curry out there. Really think he should go down to the D-League so he can get enough time to learn more defense and get his confidence back.
I got killed early in the season for suggesting he was bad on d. He's slow, weak and really can't stop anyone. The problem is our dleague system is not going to teach him d. Again the worry I have is that he was supposed to be more ready than the other projects we could have taken and right now he's absolutely useless.
 

Tetsujin

The Game Thread Dude
#12
One thing I also want to note about Stauskas is something I've noted in a previous game.. (I can't remember which one it was but it was the SAME look). When he got burned by Gordon and Collison was set to come into the game he turned and had this look like "I don't belong out here please take me out" type look. His confidence is very low right now. Some of it is his shooting but I think most of it has to do with the fact that he can't stay in front of anybody. Eric Gordon is by no means a speedster and he made him look like he was Steph Curry out there. Really think he should go down to the D-League so he can get enough time to learn more defense and get his confidence back.
Well, I dunno how to put this but..........
 
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One thing I also want to note about Stauskas is something I've noted in a previous game.. (I can't remember which one it was but it was the SAME look). When he got burned by Gordon and Collison was set to come into the game he turned and had this look like "I don't belong out here please take me out" type look. His confidence is very low right now. Some of it is his shooting but I think most of it has to do with the fact that he can't stay in front of anybody. Eric Gordon is by no means a speedster and he made him look like he was Steph Curry out there. Really think he should go down to the D-League so he can get enough time to learn more defense and get his confidence back.
He has a tough time staying in position with the stronger players, which Gordon is. It's not so much the speed, it's strength and weight. He's still a "college kid" right now. Give him time to physically mature
 
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I think the elephant in the room is how pathetic our playmaking is. Too reliant on Boogie and DMC to create for themselves. Collison leads the team with 6 APG, then Gay with 3, and then DMC is third with 1.8. Almost 70% of our team averages less than 1 APG.

Malone also has to cut these Popovic style lineups out. Why is Boogie sitting so long? Why is there even a second in the game when Boogie and Gay are out at the same time? Why is Stauskas allowed to make Eric gordon look like Steph Curry all fourth quarter? Awful rotation.
Yes I can see how asking Cuz to become two people isn't a winning strategy ;)
 
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How many of those lobs came before Thompson went to the bench, though? The pick and roll defense was, indeed, terrible, but it didn't really become so until Thompson sat down. We didn't start leaving their perimeter shooters open on the pick/double team until we no longer had a player on the floor who could defend Davis in single coverage.

Davis got virtually nothing against Thompson, and what he did get was always a tough shot. Then, we took Thompson off the floor, because we couldn't afford to take Cousins' offense out, and neither he nor Thompson can defend Anderson. So, Thompson goes out and, bam, Davis starts getting easy baskets. Then we start doubling and cheating off the pick and, bam, Anderson starts getting wide-open threes.
That almost sounds like they complement each other and make teams pick their poison! :O
 
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KingMilz

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#17
If JT is playing well than we need to play him and Cuz together regardless of match ups, the Grizzlies do this all the time, they never change Marc/Z-Bo if they are playing well together(they had Z-Bo defending Ariza), I rather have Cousins chasing a slow footed Ryan Anderson on the 3 point line (with his 7'5 wingpsan) and letting Rudy/JT rebound the ball inside. You just have to tell Cousins stick to Ryan Anderson if we wanted JT on Davis (which was working). Why should we be the ones changing I would put my life on the line and say Anderson would have far bigger issues defending Cousins than Cousins would chasing him around the perimeter. It's not like any of our other big men could do a better job guarding a stretch 4 like Anderson (who has zero dribble drive game). Anderson is not exactly Paul Milsap who can devastate you off the bounce either, taking guys out who are playing well just does not seem like the answer.

Team's can downside all they want but that mean's we are going to kill them on the glass and in the paint at the other end. We have to play to our strengths and atm Cuz/JT have shown when not fouling out to be a very decent combo on D and JT had some offence going 2night as well.

Very few of the "stretch 4's" can put the ball on the floor (Bosh/Milsap/LMA/Morris twins thats about it) and go around Cousins or Thompson, all it is, is paying attention to detail and understand the guy want's to shoot and you can't help off him. I don't get why people are so scared of them teams like Memphis punish stretch 4's it's like in MMA they say punch a Brazilian jujitsu black-belt in the face he turns into a white belt, well let Cousins and JT hammer a stretch 4 in the paint and lets see how good there shooting %'s are and if they can even stay in the game.
 
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hrdboild

Moloch in whom I dream Angels!
Staff member
#19
I missed the second half -- the biggest question I have is... what happened to the defense? We held them to 45 points in the first half which is more than solid and then they scored 61 in the second half. We've been giving up a lot of 60 point second halves recently. How do we fix this?
 
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I missed the second half -- the biggest question I have is... what happened to the defense? We held them to 45 points in the first half which is more than solid and then they scored 61 in the second half. We've been giving up a lot of 60 point second halves recently. How do we fix this?
A lot of it was a breakdown against Ryan Anderson's 3 point shooting from the 4 position. Landry was matched up against him, which was probably a mistake. Should have gone with Casspi or Rudy on him
 
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If JT is playing well than we need to play him and Cuz together regardless of match ups, the Grizzlies do this all the time, they never change Marc/Z-Bo if they are playing well together(they had Z-Bo defending Ariza), I rather have Cousins chasing a slow footed Ryan Anderson on the 3 point line (with his 7'5 wingpsan) and letting Rudy/JT rebound the ball inside. You just have to tell Cousins stick to Ryan Anderson if we wanted JT on Davis (which was working). Why should we be the ones changing I would put my life on the line and say Anderson would have far bigger issues defending Cousins than Cousins would chasing him around the perimeter. It's not like any of our other big men could do a better job guarding a stretch 4 like Anderson (who has zero dribble drive game). Anderson is not exactly Paul Milsap who can devastate you off the bounce either, taking guys out who are playing well just does not seem like the answer.

Team's can downside all they want but that mean's we are going to kill them on the glass and in the paint at the other end. We have to play to our strengths and atm Cuz/JT have shown when not fouling out to be a very decent combo on D and JT had some offence going 2night as well.

Very few of the "stretch 4's" can put the ball on the floor (Bosh/Milsap/LMA/Morris twins thats about it) and go around Cousins or Thompson, all it is, is paying attention to detail and understand the guy want's to shoot and you can't help off him. I don't get why people are so scared of them teams like Memphis punish stretch 4's it's like in MMA they say punch a Brazilian jujitsu black-belt in the face he turns into a white belt, well let Cousins and JT hammer a stretch 4 in the paint and lets see how good there shooting %'s are and if they can even stay in the game.
It's worth trying...and/or matchup with our own "stretch 4", which would be Casspi or Gay
 
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A lot of it was a breakdown against Ryan Anderson's 3 point shooting from the 4 position. Landry was matched up against him, which was probably a mistake. Should have gone with Casspi or Rudy on him
Yes... It was striking. Laundry just couldn't guard Anderson. Several time he was lost inside while Anderson moved to 3pt line and got open look. It's a bit disapointment - not the fact Laundry can't guard Anderson but the fact he was asked to. Malone should know what will happen.

What's strange here is that while there're teams which have no player to match Anderson it's not the case for Kings. They have two big long SF (could even be seen as combo-forwards) in Gay and Casspi which can defend both inside and on peremiter (it would be 3 - but D-Will can not defend both inside and on peremiter). It would be just natural to match one of them on Anderson... Malone did it at the end of the game and it worked ok, but it was just too late....
 
#24
Thoughts:
Rudy Gay was the difference this game - he didn't play well, and we needed him to play well for the Kings win.

There shouldn't be too much mystery why the Kings "don't have enough firepower - don't have enough shooters" (according to Coach) - they pay their guards less than most every competitive team in the NBA.

edit - Oh, yeah - Kings aren't going to make the playoffs with Boogie only playing 34 minutes (and he wasn't remotely in foul trouble).
UniBrow played 41 minutes - that makes a HUGE difference, when your team (Kings) consists of noone but you and backups (when Rudy's not playing well).
The Kings quite clearly need to get (and pay) another seasoned, NBA-level quality starter.
 
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With the make up of our team as it stands now, we really cannot afford to get no valuable production from SG. We have 2 legitimate scorers in Cousins and Gay. If one of them has an off game, we need production across the board. Gay was not good today, Collison struggled with scoring efficiency and we got nothing from McLemore or Stauskas. We cannot afford to have that lack of production.

Defense also drops off in the second half and we really did not play smart on Anderson. I don't like the fact that we are reacting to match ups of what the opponent dishes out. We have a long frontcourt so how about we make them try and match up our size instead. I liked it when Malone played Gay at SG last season. We can certinaly do that again with Casspi at SF and JT at PF and watch them squirm trying to match up with us.
 
#28
Yes... It was striking. Laundry just couldn't guard Anderson. Several time he was lost inside while Anderson moved to 3pt line and got open look. It's a bit disapointment - not the fact Laundry can't guard Anderson but the fact he was asked to. Malone should know what will happen.

What's strange here is that while there're teams which have no player to match Anderson it's not the case for Kings. They have two big long SF (could even be seen as combo-forwards) in Gay and Casspi which can defend both inside and on peremiter (it would be 3 - but D-Will can not defend both inside and on peremiter). It would be just natural to match one of them on Anderson... Malone did it at the end of the game and it worked ok, but it was just too late....
Are you mad at Landry or what?:p