Boogie & Rudy's Excellent Adventure
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Cousins was maybe the first big who started to get used properly late in the first half when guys finally started making the extra little dumpdown pass to him, but he really didn't play a good game defensively and the U.S. relied almost exclusively on Davis/Faried (with one annoying 3min Plumlee appearance) until we turned it into a blowout and Cousins got back in. Rudy was largely ineffective on ether end.
http://www.fiba.com/ls/#6241&BKM400C06
Cousins was maybe the first big who started to get used properly late in the first half when guys finally started making the extra little dumpdown pass to him, but he really didn't play a good game defensively and the U.S. relied almost exclusively on Davis/Faried (with one annoying 3min Plumlee appearance) until we turned it into a blowout and Cousins got back in. Rudy was largely ineffective on ether end.
It's not correct. While generally NBA statistics is ussually more generous in crediting players with assists than in most Euro or FIBA tournaments it's certainly not given for lay up, lay in or dunk only. Passing ball for catch-and-shoot jumpshot is counted as assist in any tournament I've seen.
Actually in some competitions players are even credited wih assists when there was shooting foul, and player scored FTs.
Actually in some competitions players are even credited wih assists when there was shooting foul, and player scored FTs.
I have been following Europen Basketball for longer than the NBA. I watch two euroleague games per week, adriatic league games, plus any serbian league/cup (about to watch Serbia vs Iran) and they certainly are a lot more stingy with assists. Jumpshots and single dribbles/escape dribbles are definitely not counted as an assist and haven't been for the last 25 odd years I have been following european basketball.
As Maccabi fan I've also seen many games in last 20+ years...
And here's probably one of most remarkable moments of the last year Euroleague. Semifinals, 67-63 for CSKA, ~20 sec. to the end of the game, Tyrese Rice kicks back to David Blu for catch and shoot. (Blu connects, than Blu steals the ball in the last CSKA attack, Rice got it, runs all the way and scores lay-up for 68-67 win).
As You can see the pass for 3p by Rice is listed as assist on Euroleague official site.
http://www.euroleague.net/main/results/showgame?gamecode=251&seasoncode=E2013#!playbyplay
40 Three Pointer 67 - 66 Maccabi Electra Tel Aviv BLU, DAVID
40 Assist 67 - 66 Maccabi Electra Tel Aviv RICE, TYRESE
And here's probably one of most remarkable moments of the last year Euroleague. Semifinals, 67-63 for CSKA, ~20 sec. to the end of the game, Tyrese Rice kicks back to David Blu for catch and shoot. (Blu connects, than Blu steals the ball in the last CSKA attack, Rice got it, runs all the way and scores lay-up for 68-67 win).
As You can see the pass for 3p by Rice is listed as assist on Euroleague official site.
http://www.euroleague.net/main/results/showgame?gamecode=251&seasoncode=E2013#!playbyplay
40 Three Pointer 67 - 66 Maccabi Electra Tel Aviv BLU, DAVID
40 Assist 67 - 66 Maccabi Electra Tel Aviv RICE, TYRESE
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Is anyone kind of put off by all the recognition that Anthony Davis is getting? He is a great player and the sky is the limit for him, but I feel like Cousins could do the same, he just doesn't get the playing time or touches that Davis does. Cousins has dominated every single game against the Pelicans last season, and yet no one speaks of that (not necessarily during the FIBA tournament, but in the NBA). Davis is hailed as the next superstar at least 2-3 times a game, and Cousins is not mentioned anywhere (even though he is only 2 years older and has better offensive stats, while not being a complete liability on defense). I wish Cousins would get his due as well.
If you don't think that Cousins is getting love from the broadcasters, you're just looking for reasons to have beef. Cousins has been getting more love than any player on Team USA who's not a starter and, frankly, more than two of the starters. Please don't try and equate "not getting praised as much as Anthony Davis" with "not getting his due."
I never said that Cousins is not getting any love from the broadcasters. He has received more praise in the past few weeks than the previous seasons combined. I am well aware of that thanks. My main point, and only point that I was trying to make, is that everyone views Davis as an up and coming superstar. When I said "not getting his due," I was referring to that. Why is Cousins not looked at as an up and coming superstar? I don't have "beef" with anyone nor am I looking to stir up a hornets nest. When I referenced the stats, I was merely trying to say it can't be statistical, because Cousins is right there with Davis on many criteria. Perhaps now with the national exposure, the views will change more.
That's all fine and well, he has the talent to be one of the best in the league, I don't disagree with that. But my only gripe is that we have a big man of our own that is also statistically there with Davis, yet gets nowhere near the recognition of some of his fellow stars. I get the reputation part, I get the losing part as well, but Davis isn't a winner either in this league, and you can argue he had a better supporting cast than Cousins (especially pre Rudy Gay trade). Just seems a little unfair, and that's all I was getting at.
He's mega IT. Houston will not win anything with him unless he changes, but he seems to be getting even better at being a ball hog scorer. He's one of the very best at it and he'll always get paid handsomely to do it. But him and Howard will never win a thing. They'll be lucky to win a playoff series at any point.
Now, as the third scorer off the bench option in okC, well, if they'd kept him okc would probably be looking toward a 3 peat at this point. But alas...
Now, as the third scorer off the bench option in okC, well, if they'd kept him okc would probably be looking toward a 3 peat at this point. But alas...
Superstar Defense, Mr. Harden
Irving was almost as bad on that play to be fair.