[Grades] Grades v. Grizzlies 1/29/2014

Best of the guys without gunning privileges tonight?

  • Thompson

    Votes: 9 34.6%
  • Gray

    Votes: 1 3.8%
  • Thornton

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Wiliams

    Votes: 1 3.8%
  • McLemore

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Fredette

    Votes: 9 34.6%
  • Acy

    Votes: 1 3.8%
  • Landry

    Votes: 5 19.2%

  • Total voters
    26
  • Poll closed .

Bricklayer

Don't Make Me Use The Bat
#1


We got 2/3 of our 3 players back for this one, and they largely played like themselves. Rudy with flashes of brilliance until suddenly falling apart late and helping sink us. Isaiah chucking up his nightly 20+ shots and showing all the reasons you don't want him running the team, but finally clicking into offensive gear late in the game and hitting repeatedly to give us a chance. In the end its not enough against a good team. Maybe next game we can get all three of them back together and see how we do against a weak slate of opponents through Feb/March.

Your Consoritum Graders tonight:
Bricklayer
Uncia03
Rainmaker
Capt. Factorial
MassachusettsKingsFan


Boxscore

Stats: 34min 23pts (10-16, 1-4, 2-2) 2reb 5ast 1stl 0blk 5TO
Gay ( A- ) -- I was on the border between giving Rudy an A- or a B+ but considering he was coming off injury, timing was off a bit due to the time away and his touches were limited in the 2nd half, I thought he played a very good game and decided to go with the A-. Came out more as a facilitator/decoy, maybe partly by design but also likely to allow him to get his rhythm back without forcing up shots out of the gate. Showed his patience in the post on a few occasions as he waited for the help to come, then set teammates up for open looks, including twice setting Isaiah up for open 3's. Started to get into attack mode when he checked back in in the 2nd, where he ripped off 10pts before halftime. Rudy really excels in iso post-up situations on the wing with a live dribble and space, where his versatility and ability to score in multiple ways is highlighted and that's what he did in the 2nd, either rising up for a jumper, turning baseline and hitting his fadeaway or getting by his defender and taking it right to the rim. Came out aggressive in the 3rd, picking up a quick dunk and banking in a 3 from near straight on. Hit a tough jumper about halfway through the 3rd and was sitting on 19pts on 9-14 shooting at that point, then was subbed out a few mins later. I didn't think he got enough touches after re-entering down the stretch as after being 9-14 halfway through the 3rd, he went only 1-2 the rest of the way. Effort was good on defense and he provided help in his rotations but it should be noted that Prince isn't much of a threat to do much of anything on the offensive side at this point in his career. There was a brief scare when it appeared he re-injured his achilles in the 4th but he stayed out there and played through it. Did have a couple bad turnovers towards the end and I wonder if the injury had anything to do with it, but those turnovers at the end were the only negatives that really stood out tonight. Rudy did his job defensively, set guys up on offense as a facilitator(5 asts), looked for his own shot and did so efficiently while pushing through apparent pain towards the end. He wanted to win this one against his former team. Unfortunately he didn't get enough help on the night. --Rain

Stats: 31min 6pts (3-8, 0-0, 0-0) 7reb 1ast 0stl 0blk 2TO
Thompson ( C+ ) -- of course tasked with slowing Zach Randolph on the evening, and for the most part did a pretty decent job of making life hard for him. About a third of Randolph's numbers all came during a stretch with no JT on the floor. But it was a fairly singular focus, and he was so tied up in it that he never did have much effect on the boards beyond ending a few Grizzlies plays enthusiastically as he looked around at his teammates and realized he had to be the guy if anybody was going to be. On offense all three of his hits came on long catch and shoot jumpers where the Grizz didn't want to follow him. Everything else was a miss. There was effort here -- once he went tot he floor diving amongst 4 Grizz to save the ball, did so, but as he knocked the ball away he landed right in the hands of the 5th Grizz player. Disappeared in the late going when he was often paired with Landry, and interestingly whiel the two were on the floor together Landry was playing as another one of Malone's seemingly preferred backup 6'8" centers while JT stayed at PF. --Brick

Stats: 23min 4pts (2-5, 0-0, 0-0) 6reb 3ast 2stl 1blk 0TO
Gray ( C ) -- Aaron got the call in place of DeMarcus yet again and had an OK night. He grabbed six rebounds, but five of those came in the first quarter, with only one rebound in his 11 minutes after that, and he twice failed to keep Gasol off the offensive boards for a ball that should have been his. He was only credited with one block, but he clearly had two, one on Conley in the first and the second on Z-Bo late in the third. All in all his help defense (on top of those two blocks) was quite good, though it was more of a strength than his man defense. He allowed 12 points on 11 shots, mostly to Gasol on jumpers, though there was one play where he blew the coverage on a pick and roll, allowing Marc to go right to the hole for a dunk. Gray made two shots on the night, but one was a really ugly hook in the lane which encouraged him to take a yet uglier running hook two plays later that had literally no chance of going in. He also missed a complete bunny at the rim. The rest of his offense was a bit better. He made two nice passes - one touch pass to JT that resulted in a missed shot, and one assist to Jimmer from well above the key as the clock ran out on what was beginning to look like a lost possession. But most of all, his offensive contribution was in his screens. I counted Gray setting 18 solid screens on the night which resulted in 7 open shots. Screens aren't sexy, but good ones are good ones, and Gray knows how to set a good one. --Capt.

Stats: 17min 2pts (1-2, 0-1, 0-0) 0reb 1ast 0stl 0blk 0TO
Thornton ( B- ) -- Thornton, the man of controversy after this one, as apparently Malone called out his poor defense for his lack of playing time in this one. And I have to admit that it’s one of the few times that I’ve really disagreed with what Malone has had to say. I love the fact that Malone wants to play defense, and I do believe that playing energetic on the defensive end should be a requirement to getting a lot of minutes, but to single out Thornton for his play in this one was completely uncalled for. Thornton made two defensive mistakes in this game. One not fighting through a double-screen which allowed Lee to get a clean 2pt jumper at the 10 minute mark of the 1st quarter and another mistake when he just died on a Gasol screen which let Lee get another clean look at the 5 minute mark. Other than those two defensive lapses, he stayed close to Lee the entire time, not letting him get free for easy scoring opportunities. Lee plays the game like we want Ben to play it, by moving with-out the ball and then running to the corner when someone drives or posts up. So Thornton had to follow him around to make sure he didn’t have easy catch-and-shoot opportunities, and he had to stick close to him to prevent the easy kick-out scores.
In the 3rd quarter Thornton had his one stand-out defensive play where he doubled hard on Randolph and stripped the ball for the steal, but I see that they didn’t credit him for the steal for some reason. That happened at the 9:30 mark. So those were the three stand-out defensive plays for Thornton in his 17 minutes of play. Two poor jobs and 1 steal, resulting in his man scoring 4 points. On the offensive end of the floor…what a difference a day makes. After getting 55 FG attempts in the last 3 games, Rudy got back into the line-up and Thornton got up 2 whole shots. He was completely ignored on the offensive end in this one. Time after time, he’d run around a screen and hold his hands up to get a pass that never came, or be open with a hand up ready to get the ball and instead see the ball either shot up, or passed elsewhere. He was open plenty of times, but didn’t get to touch it. He had a single scoring opportunity in his 1st 8 minute stint where he got a hand-off pass, and decided to make a hard drive into the lane. He scored on that play which was the only shot he got in the 1st half. In the 3rd quarter, in the offensive possession after he got his steal (9:30 mark), he actually got to touch the ball, and rather than shoot it, he whipped a pass to JT who had good position under the basket, and he watched as JT traveled with the ball for the TO. About 40 seconds later he took his 2nd (and last) shot of the game. It was a selfish shot, as he got the ball, and then off his own dribble he launched a 3pt shot that missed everything. Of course, to be fair after 15 minutes of play it was only his second FG attempt. Malone pulled him 2 minutes later, and Thornton never saw the floor again. So Thornton scored 2 points on 1-2 shooting, while the man he was guarding (Lee) scored 4 points on 2-4 shooting. It’s hard to see how Thornton would get called out for a bad defensive performance in this one. And the fact that he only got 2 shooting opportunities after getting 55 the last 3 games….it’s impressive that we didn’t see an outbreak from MT on the bench. He was completely ignored on the offensive end, and even with that he did give a pretty decent effort on the defensive end. He was a net-positive on the floor in this one (actually the best +/- of the starters), his man didn’t kill us, he did his job by spreading the floor on offense, and though he didn’t get any scoring opportunities he didn’t hurt us with poor efficiency…so I’m not giving him a really poor grade, despite what Coach Malone seemed to think. --Uncia

Stats: 39min 24pts (10-21, 4-10, 0-0) 1reb 5ast 0stl 0blk 2TO
Thomas ( B ) -- I admittedly have a tough time grading Isaiah Thomas because I can’t help but fall back on the argument of “well, where would they be without him?” It was that kind of game again tonight. He had a really good first quarter that involved him knocking down his open 3-point attempts, and easy transition layups. He scored 10 of his 24 points in that first quarter, and his defense was pretty good. Then he had two completely ineffective, hard to watch quarters that highlighted all of the frustrating parts of Thomas’ game. There were the forced shots (and the bad pullup 3’s with 20 seconds left on the shot clock) and his defensive effort wasn’t as good as it was in the first quarter. Then the fourth quarter happened, and Isaiah Thomas was doing good Isaiah Thomas things again. It was another 10-point quarter (that means he only scored 4 points in the 2nd and 3rd quarters combined for all you math majors out there) and he really brought the Kings back into this one with a chance to win it in the final few minutes. I didn’t love a lot of what I saw out of Thomas tonight, but relative to the rest of his teammates he had a pretty decent game. I found it incredibly weird that he didn’t shoot one free throw all night. He got hammered a few times going to the rim, but the calls just weren’t there. I think it’s important to note Mike Conley’s huge game even though Isaiah Thomas wasn’t the only reason why he got off. Conley is having an incredible year, and Thomas (in most cases) did what he could to chase Conley around the court. There was a lot of miscommunication defensively tonight, and I attribute that to Conley’s big night more than anything else. I don’t know if we were over helping, under helping or just playing it wrong all together, but it wasn’t pretty. I’m not excusing Thomas for his performance on that end, but I’m not putting all the blame on him either. And he played 39 minutes tonight (coming off a game where he had to leave with stomach issues) which leads me to believe that Malone was reasonably happy with Thomas’s defensive effort considering the hard ‘I will only play guys who play defense’ stance he took after the game was over. So to recap – there was a lot to like, a lot to dislike, but if he wasn’t on the court tonight the Kings may have lost by 20. One thing is becoming clear – he’s much better with DeMarcus Cousins.--Mass
 
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Bricklayer

Don't Make Me Use The Bat
#2
Bench

Stats: 19min 8pts (2-7, 0-1, 4-4) 1reb 0ast 1stl 0blk 1TO
Williams ( D+ ) -- Derrick didn't have a good performance tonight and it seems to me he performs better for us when we're have good nights as a team defensively, allowing us to force misses, clean up the glass and get out in transition where he excels. In uglier, half court games or games where there aren't as many transition opportunities, largely when our team defense isn't anything to write home about, he transitions between being ineffective and invisible. Tonight it was mostly ineffective with spurts of invisible. Derrick's perimeter game was non-existent tonight as he missed every shot attempt outside the paint, yet only went 2-5 in the paint. Made a poor play in the 2nd by driving into four defenders when nothing was there and getting stripped. Also didn't have a good game defensively and let Miller lose him on a few occasions to drill jumpers. I consider defensive rebounding to be part of defense and he was poor there too, getting 1reb all night which is frankly, unacceptable. The effort he has some nights I did not see tonight. Just a bad game, on both ends. --Rain

Stats: 26min 6pts (2-6, 0-3, 2-2) 2reb 1ast 1stl 0blk 3TO
McLemore ( D+ ) -- Well, Coach Malone seems to have confidence in Ben and unlike the last 2 games where Ben has been playing good basketball, he didn’t reward Malone with a good performance. Unfortunately Ben was just a mess in this game. The biggest issue is that he missed every single one of his catch-and-shoot opportunities. Now, he didn’t get a lot of them, but we need him to be able to knock down that shot. I’m sure that MT was jealous seeing Ben get 4 catch-and-shoot opportunities while he was completely frozen out. Ben did get 2 buckets to go, both at the rim. One from a nice pass from Jimmer and the 2nd from getting his own rebound after he missed the jumper. He also got to the line and knocked down both free-throws. But the big part of his offense that we need, he failed 0-4 in 26 minutes of play. The other thing that hurt was the turn-overs. He tried to do too much off the dribble and ended up having 3 turn-overs. He’s shown some nice plays the last few games of making the right pass and keeping control of the handle, but in this one, pretty much every time he tried to do something with a live dribble he got himself into trouble. He did manage to get 1 assist, but that one was sort of an accident. He had a live dribble and got himself trapped against the side-line with time running down. He managed to squeeze the ball to Landry who knocked down the 16ft jumper. On the defensive side of the floor he tried to stick to his man, but he just has a hard time playing a guy out on the perimeter, as he prefers to drift more to the strong side. This is all well and good, until he gets beat when the ball reverses and he can’t get back to his assigned man fast enough. For those of you who might re-watch the game, take a look at the play at the 10:15 mark of the 2nd quarter. Miller is in the weak-side corner and Ben hedges towards the strong side, the ball ends up getting to Miller for a wide-open 3pt shot that is missed. Ben gets completely spun around on this play. Again at the 7:45 mark of the 2nd quarter Miller is able to get some space using a screen, then when Ben rushes forward to close the distance Miller is able to get by him and into the lane. Miller ends up passing the ball, but the defensive break-down started with Ben on that one. I could detail out a number of other defensive break-downs on Ben’s part. It’s not that Ben isn’t trying…because he is. It’s just that he has a tendency to lose focus, especially if his man is on the weak side, so he’s got to get better at staying focused…and then when he’s one-on-one, he’s got to get better at just staying down and not going after every little fake. So the primary offense (catch-and-shoot) was very poor (0-4), he had 3 turn-overs and poor success while trying something with a live dribble and the defense wasn’t that great. He had been playing pretty well while Cousins and Rudy were out, and I was hoping for more of the same, but he just wasn’t able to bring it tonight. --Uncia

Stats: 9min 4pts (2-4, 0-2, 0-0) 1reb 4ast 0stl 0blk 1TO
Fredette ( B ) -- I actually thought Jimmer Fredette outplayed Thomas for the middle portion of tonight’s game, and I do wonder why he only played 9 minutes. He was by far the Kings best playmaker. All 4 of his assists were impressive, and I thought he was handling a good Grizzlies defense about as well as you could expect. His defense is what it is, but tonight he had the luxury of guarding Nick Calathes… in other words, not a threat. I think the Kings and Isaiah Thomas could have benefitted from giving Jimmer a few more second half minutes, but that just doesn’t seem like something Malone is ready to do. He clearly doesn’t trust Jimmer the point guard yet. If Malone isn’t going to let Jimmer play more than 9 minutes on a night where he is playing well, and Thomas is sick, I don’t know if it’ll ever happen. I have to assume it was due to the Conley matchup more than anything else, but it’s not like the Kings could stop him after the 1st quarter anyway. --Mass

Stats: 19min 4pts (2-5, 0-0, 0-0) 5reb 0ast 0stl 1blk 1TO
Acy ( C- ) -- Acy had one signature moment on the night - Courtney Lee got free on the baseline and went up for a big dunk attempt, but Acy came on the help and met him right at the top with a pancake block that deserved to be Play of the Game (but lost to a very nice Rudy dunk). Then again, he also had a brief moment of comedy in the second quarter when he got lost and stepped outside of the entire Memphis offense, apparently heading over to guard the ref before realizing his mistake. But in terms of overall impact, I think Acy may not have had as good of a game as his stats indicate. For one, he was credited with five rebounds - which would be a good night on the boards in 19 minutes - but I think at least one (perhaps more) was a generous call off a tip in traffic. He didn't really affect the game on the boards. His man defense was good (4 points on 7 shots) but his team defense was not quite up to his normal level. He go caught watching twice in 12 help opportunities and had two possessions in a row in the second where he was unable to challenge a Grizzly driving in for a layup. He hit one jumper and a shot in the lane, but was also stuffed twice in traffic (two bad shot decisions) in the course of about four seconds late in the first quarter. But that block on Lee was sure something!--Capt.

Stats: 23min 8pts (4-5, 0-0, 0-0) 9reb 0ast 0stl 0blk 0TO
Landry ( B- ) -- finally got a real game out of Carl, and he made real contributions in both his stints. Got a little dunk on a nice spinning drive and dish by Jimmer to start things offensively, and on the night was very efficient largely because everything he took was set up. Near the end of his first half minutes grabbed several D-boards, and that was a definite difference this time out -- he was on the glass. In his second stint actually started off matched up against Gasol, but it wasn't something the Grizzlies punished us for. Got a jumper from IT after IT dribbled around for 15 seconds looking for his own shot and finally just gave it up. Had a few moments of good help defense cutting off penetration as our hapless guards (Ben, I'm looking at you) constantly threatened to get blown by again, but scored over individually multiple times by Davis and Randolph as he was right there, but just has no length to effectively challenge. Got more active down the stretch, and had some aggressive boards in traffic, but no more than a roleplaying effort overall. --Brick
 
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Glenn

Hall of Famer
#3
Damn it. I wrote a nice long note to find the thread had been closed WHYYYY!!!!! I'm outta here for the night. I'm not going to waste my time and believe me it was a long note. Thanks whoever did that. It's your playpen and obviously that takes presidence over anything else.
 

Glenn

Hall of Famer
#5
Huh? There are no threads showing closed, or deleted. Something may have been merged...
OK, then it was merged. I don't have all the "switch the threads around" crap down that well. I just lost a whole damn page and a half note because someone thought it would be cool to merge a thread. It's not funny and I'm sure whoever did it doesn't give a crap. I'd love to know the compelling reason to screw up the game thread.
 
#7
OK, then it was merged. I don't have all the "switch the threads around" crap down that well. I just lost a whole damn page and a half note because someone thought it would be cool to merge a thread. It's not funny and I'm sure whoever did it doesn't give a crap. I'd love to know the compelling reason to screw up the game thread.
I believe VF created the Malone calling out Thornton D from the game thread. Mods have often done that when a major topic pops up that can be talked about after the game.
 
#9
What happened to Jimmer in the 4th? I looked away for a second and he was out. I didn't feel the need to rewind it, but at 10:00 IT was back in.
 

Bricklayer

Don't Make Me Use The Bat
#10
What happened to Jimmer in the 4th? I looked away for a second and he was out. I didn't feel the need to rewind it, but at 10:00 IT was back in.
Conley came back in. As we saw last game in Memphis, Malone absolutely does not like that matchup and its just an automatic substitution for him no matter how Jimmer is or is not playing.
 

Mr. S£im Citrus

Doryphore of KingsFans.com
Staff member
#11
It ruined my note. Do whatever you damn please. When the whims of mods are more important than the people who post on the forum, something is ****ed up.
Again, are you accusing us of merging threads for the express purpose of screwing up your post? I'm sorry that your post got lost, but if it was done, it was done as a housekeeping procedure. Are you accusing us of doing it out of some kind of grudge? How do you think we're even supposed to be able to know if you were typing or not?
 

Bricklayer

Don't Make Me Use The Bat
#12
It ruined my note. Do whatever you damn please. When the whims of mods are more important than the people who post on the forum, something is ****ed up.
That clearly wasn't the intent however.

Little trick I picked up years ago because of my own propensity to make long posts -- I copy paste before I hit submit, just in case there is an error; and b) I often open a blank Notepad page when I am working on along and involved post, and then just periodically copy it over to the Notepad as I go. That way if I lose it to anything but a power outage I'm ok. Very very annoying to actually lose a ton of work.
 
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#13
What happened to Jimmer in the 4th? I looked away for a second and he was out. I didn't feel the need to rewind it, but at 10:00 IT was back in.
He was playing really well but he is way too tall and doesn't shoot the ball enough. Between that and all the passing he was doing Malone thought it best to bring IT back in the game and nip that passing in the bud.
 

Glenn

Hall of Famer
#14
Again, are you accusing us of merging threads for the express purpose of screwing up your post? I'm sorry that your post got lost, but if it was done, it was done as a housekeeping procedure. Are you accusing us of doing it out of some kind of grudge? How do you think we're even supposed to be able to know if you were typing or not?
When did I say that? I am aggravated that I lost a note. Can you get a little more defensive? I don't care what the reason was. Good night and have fun.
 

Mr. S£im Citrus

Doryphore of KingsFans.com
Staff member
#15
When did I say that? I am aggravated that I lost a note. Can you get a little more defensive? I don't care what the reason was. Good night and have fun.
Did you use those exact words? Of course not. Was there any real reason to have the kind of reaction you did have? Not really.
 
#16
Just saw Isaiah Thomas post game quotes. This guy thinks he is the leader of the team? uhhhh ok

Anyway as for the game, another game of IT shooting at will and allowing the opposing PG to just get whatever he wanted, whenever he wanted. so nothing new there.
 
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Just saw Isaiah Thomas post game quotes. This guy thinks he is the leader of the team? uhhhh ok

Anyway as for the game, another game of IT shooting at will and allowing the opposing PG to just get whatever he wanted, whenever he wanted. so nothing new there.
I'm hoping he meant to say he was a leader of the team, and not the leader.
 
K

KingMilz

Guest
#19
#Mike Conley might be the most underrated player in the NBA completely outclassed IT
#Grant Napier has a very fit and sassy wife, top marks Grant
#JT did all he could to limit the beast that is Z-Bo
#Williams/Mclemore kind of sucked
#Gay showing why he is a keeper for sure
#Acy did ok I thought
#We are 0-6 without Cousins
 
#20
When the shot count after the first was our pg 8, the other 4 starters 9 combined, click, game off. Enough already.

I'm not a praying man, but I've never hoped for a trade so strongly in my life.

I'm tired of the spin from a few of you. Tired of the arguments.

I want him gone.
 
#21
IT has got to go back to the bench where he belongs. I pin a lot of losses on him just because of his nature to shoot and shoot some more and refusal to feed our big man more. Now that he is missing more shots, his efficiency and value have suddenly dipped quite a bit. He's not a leader. He leads only in the selfish category.
 

Warhawk

Give blood and save a life!
Staff member
#22
When did I say that? I am aggravated that I lost a note. Can you get a little more defensive? I don't care what the reason was. Good night and have fun.
When you use phrases like the following (direct quotes from you), it sounds like you are accusing someone of doing it intentionally. Think about it.


Thanks whoever did that. It's your playpen and obviously that takes presidence over anything else.

Do whatever you damn please. When the whims of mods are more important than the people who post on the forum, something is ****ed up.

I just lost a whole damn page and a half note because someone thought it would be cool to merge a thread. It's not funny and I'm sure whoever did it doesn't give a crap.
 
#23
IT has got to go back to the bench where he belongs. I pin a lot of losses on him just because of his nature to shoot and shoot some more and refusal to feed our big man more. Now that he is missing more shots, his efficiency and value have suddenly dipped quite a bit. He's not a leader. He leads only in the selfish category.
Look, I'm not a fan of having IT in the starting five, but for the most part his offense isn't bad and isn't the real problem with having him start. He has been a very efficient scorer and a decent facilitator this season. The way he scores and facilitates is somewhat irksome in that it often involves poor decision making and a tendency toward hero ball late. The problem, as with most things Kings, comes at the defensive end.

If the Kings were in the playoff picture this year, IT's offensive numbers would have him in the conversation for the all-star game.
 
#24
IT has got to go back to the bench where he belongs. I pin a lot of losses on him just because of his nature to shoot and shoot some more and refusal to feed our big man more. Now that he is missing more shots, his efficiency and value have suddenly dipped quite a bit. He's not a leader. He leads only in the selfish category.

I much prefer that he not feed Gray.
 
#26
If my old truck were new it wouldn't be an old truck.

IT is part of the reason that the Kings aren't in the playoff picture.
You seem to have missed my point. I'm not shifting blame away from IT. I am just saying his offense is the wrong place to focus. Nobody is saying he is a poor offensive player. He is, in fact, a very good offensive player who just happens to have a hero-ball streak a mile wide and is incapable, uninterested or both of playing good defense. We wouldn't be complaining if he put up 20 points a 6 assists as long as he was holding his counterpart to 14 points and 5 assists, but that isn't the case.
 
T

Toasty

Guest
#27
IT' problem right now is he's playing against the other teams PG instead of making the team better.

Maybe that is the only way he can play... I don't know.

There, I said it, though it pains me.
 

Bricklayer

Don't Make Me Use The Bat
#28
You seem to have missed my point. I'm not shifting blame away from IT. I am just saying his offense is the wrong place to focus. Nobody is saying he is a poor offensive player. He is, in fact, a very good offensive player who just happens to have a hero-ball streak a mile wide and is incapable, uninterested or both of playing good defense. We wouldn't be complaining if he put up 20 points a 6 assists as long as he was holding his counterpart to 14 points and 5 assists, but that isn't the case.
Actually his offense has beomce an issue too. Back at the beginning of the month IT partisans accused me of being unfair when I pointed out that he was slumping over the (at that time) past 5 games. Well..that "slump" has now stretched for an entire month.

Numbers:
In January: 36.5min 21.3pts (.413 .330 .867) 2.9reb 6.7ast on 16.9FGA/gm and 6.5 3PA/gm
Last 5gms: 36.4min 22.8pts (.392 .250 .892) 2.8reb 6.2ast on 20.3FGA/gm and 7.2 3PA/gm

In other words, the little guy has been straight chucking for over a month now (this started at the end of December actually).

Now you throw in this little season-long factoid:

IT in wins: 14.0FGA .462FG% 7.7ast
IT in losses: 15.3FGA .439FG% 5.6ast

and its pretty clearly IT the chucker isn't theIT we want or need out there.
 
#29
Actually his offense has beomce an issue too. Back at the beginning of the month IT partisans accused me of being unfair when I pointed out that he was slumping over the (at that time) past 5 games. Well..that "slump" has now stretched for an entire month.

Numbers:
In January: 36.5min 21.3pts (.413 .330 .867) 2.9reb 6.7ast on 16.9FGA/gm and 6.5 3PA/gm
Last 5gms: 36.4min 22.8pts (.392 .250 .892) 2.8reb 6.2ast on 20.3FGA/gm and 7.2 3PA/gm

In other words, the little guy has been straight chucking for over a month now (this started at the end of December actually).

Now you throw in this little season-long factoid:

IT in wins: 14.0FGA .462FG% 7.7ast
IT in losses: 15.3FGA .439FG% 5.6ast

and its pretty clearly IT the chucker isn't theIT we want or need out there.
I don't know if using the last 5 games as a measuring stick is fair. Marcus was the only other real offensive option during that time, meaning IT was getting extra defensive focus and forcing shots that would have gone to Cousins or Gay. Even with my bias against offensive-minded point guards, I would still rather have IT taking those shots than Aaron Gray, Jason Thompson or Derrick Williams. That's not to relieve him of his responsibility to take good shots and involve his teammates

To be clear, I don't like the way the offense runs with IT the starter. His ball dominance frustrates me in a number of ways, even when he is shooting well. I really, really like(d) IT as the sparkplug sixth man. He was something that opposing benches had no answer for and his defensive issues were less glaring against opposing teams' bench scrubs.

The major issue is the lack of a clear replacement for IT in the starting lineup. Coach apparently does not believe McCallum to be ready and I see nothing to suggest otherwise. I think Jimmer would give better effort on defense than IT just because he is playing for his basketball life and defense has been his knock from day 1, but I doubt he would achieve better results, and brings a more flawed offensive game. The answer to the IT problem lies outside the current roster.
 

Glenn

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I don't know if using the last 5 games as a measuring stick is fair. Marcus was the only other real offensive option during that time, meaning IT was getting extra defensive focus and forcing shots that would have gone to Cousins or Gay. Even with my bias against offensive-minded point guards, I would still rather have IT taking those shots than Aaron Gray, Jason Thompson or Derrick Williams. That's not to relieve him of his responsibility to take good shots and involve his teammates

To be clear, I don't like the way the offense runs with IT the starter. His ball dominance frustrates me in a number of ways, even when he is shooting well. I really, really like(d) IT as the sparkplug sixth man. He was something that opposing benches had no answer for and his defensive issues were less glaring against opposing teams' bench scrubs.

The major issue is the lack of a clear replacement for IT in the starting lineup. Coach apparently does not believe McCallum to be ready and I see nothing to suggest otherwise. I think Jimmer would give better effort on defense than IT just because he is playing for his basketball life and defense has been his knock from day 1, but I doubt he would achieve better results, and brings a more flawed offensive game. The answer to the IT problem lies outside the current roster.
Actually he used the entire month of January as a measuring stick and the last 5 games seem to show the effect of, well, who knows? Maybe it shows how well IT responds to being The Man with Rudy and Cuz out.