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ppine

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The Kings' seem to be perfectly willing to break with convention and let many different people lead the break. Sometimes it looks like whoever gets a rebound leads the break. There might be some advantages to having Gay, Cousins and Williams take turns with Thomas. Most of the time, logic says that they should pass the ball and get into the hands of a guard. The percentages are in favor of a successful outcome with a guard doing the handling. Maybe it shows a lack of discipline. Maybe it is a more creative offense. I don't think it works that well. What do you think?

In the half court offense, Cousins and Gay are both really good passers and it makes more sense then to run the offense thru them.
 
Kingster

Kingster

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I'd like for the guy who gets the rebound to immediately look upcourt for the streaking players running down the court . If he can't find someone up the floor who can run a break, and if he's not covered, sure, bring the ball past the half court line and start up the offense by getting it to a guard.

I totally agree that Cousins playing point guard is not a percentage play. I'd like to know the stat on the successful outcomes of Cousins bringing the ball up the floor. First, how many times does he turn it over before the Kings have a chance at a shot? Second, if he doesn't turn it over, how successful is the team in generating points from the break? For example, if Cousins is 50% successful in the first condition, and 50% successful in the second condition, then he's got a 25% success rate on his breaks.

Regarding Williams and Gay, I just don't have enough sample size to know how good they can be a "running the break."

As for the half court offense, I'd like Cousins, IT and Gay to be initiators. They all can do it. So if you have the ammo, why not do it? It just makes it more difficult for the opposing team to prepare for the offense.
 
bajaden

bajaden

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If you break comes off a normal rebound, and your PG is in the right position, then yes, you get him the ball. But many times breaks come off long rebounds, and could end up in the hands of McLemore or Gay etc. A fast break is an opportunistic play. In other words, yes, you'd like the ball to be in your PG's hands, but its not always possible to do that, and still have a fast break. You have to take whats there, and make the best of it.
 
SacTownKid

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The more guys that can bring the ball up the floor off of a rebound the merrier. All the more time to run an offensive set, and the Kings need all the time they can get!
 
ShastaKingsFan

ShastaKingsFan

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bajaden said:
If you break comes off a normal rebound, and your PG is in the right position, then yes, you get him the ball. But many times breaks come off long rebounds, and could end up in the hands of McLemore or Gay etc. A fast break is an opportunistic play. In other words, yes, you'd like the ball to be in your PG's hands, but its not always possible to do that, and still have a fast break. You have to take whats there, and make the best of it.
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Our 2 guard McLemore doesn't push the ball if it ends up in his hands. That's a big disadvantage when one of our starting guards doesn't handle the ball well enough to lead a break here and there
 
bajaden

bajaden

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ShastaKingsFan said:
Our 2 guard McLemore doesn't push the ball if it ends up in his hands. That's a big disadvantage when one of our starting guards doesn't handle the ball well enough to lead a break here and there
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Not sure what your watching, but McLemore has pushed the ball on the break several times, and made very good passes as well. Mclemore gets in trouble when he tries to dribble into traffic in a half court set. Can we be real here. McLemore needs to improve his ballhandling. We know that. But he's not inept for gods sake. Some of you people are making him sound like he's totally incapable of dribbling the ball at all. I'm sick and tired of all or nothing. There is an inbetween. He is, and will continue to improve. But I doubt you'll notice it.
 
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spudfan

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bajaden said:
Not sure what your watching, but McLemore has pushed the ball on the break several times, and made very good passes as well. Mclemore gets in trouble when he tries to dribble into traffic in a half court set. Can we be real here. McLemore needs to improve his ballhandling. We know that. But he's not inept for gods sake. Some of you people are making him sound like he's totally incapable of dribbling the ball at all. I'm sick and tired of all or nothing. There is an inbetween. He is, and will continue to improve. But I doubt you'll notice it.
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I too think he is fine with his straight line ball handling, which the fast break/transition push normally is. He is so fast that if he gets a long rebound it is only 4 or 5 dribbles for him to get to the other side of the court and pass it or dunk it.
 
bajaden

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SacTownKid said:
Been so long, I don't even remember why I went on strike to be honest! :D
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Been so long I don't remember who you are? :D Of course sometimes I find myself wandering around on the beach and can't remember how I got there. Or who I'm with. And why is this strange dog attacking me?
 
VF21

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