I'd like to see what Evans has left in the tank.....I know he's old but 2 years ago, he still was doing his thing at a high level. One Brooklyn acquired KG and the others, Evans PT dwindled. Maybe there's not much left. I like Acy, but realistically I don't think he's ever going to be better than Landry or JT.
Who should start at Power Forward?
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Did I miss something or did the FO specifically go out and sign/target Acy/Gray or say how happy they were to get them? They did so for McLemore and Landry and to a lesser extent Vasquez. The "almost" in my post specifically refers to Rudy Gay. Williams kinda falls in between both in terms of whether or not they really wanted him and whether he has disappointed or not thus far.
ockingsfan
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I think Evans still has a few good years left. Just last year he averaged 11.1 rebounds per game, starting on a 50 win nets team. He was replaced by an over the hill KG and the nets aren't a .500 team.
Maybe next to DMC, he can be the rebounding enforcer for the kings. We've already seen a couple of years of DMC and JT and that translated to 20 win seasons.
Our pf doesn't need to score with our big 3.
kingjatt
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Evans is just too much of a liability offensively to make putting him on the floor worthwhile. If you think teams hound Cousins now just think about how much he will get hounded if they can leave Evans completely. At least Quincy/Carl/JT command some sort of attention, with Evans teams would have a field day.
Acy is on a minimum salary. If he becomes a competent 4th big (not a given, but a possibility), and you retain him for $1-1.5 million for a few years, you laugh all the way to the bank. Landry and JT are in the running for another role - 3rd big. Landry fits that as a scoring big, JT - as a guy who can man both front court positions.
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KingMilz
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The best answer would be none of them "should" be starting since all of them are bench players. But out of what we have JT is clearly the most capable starter due to his size and length.
#1 JT
#2 Landry
#3 Acy (should be first big off the bench every game imo)
#4 Evans
#100 Derrick Williams (he's not a PF imo)
#1 JT
#2 Landry
#3 Acy (should be first big off the bench every game imo)
#4 Evans
#100 Derrick Williams (he's not a PF imo)
ParniValjak
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No contest! JT all the way!
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Toasty
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What a group. No wonder IT shoots all the time.
ockingsfan
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I think Evans still has some game left in his tank.
Look, elite rebounders are hard to come by and Evans is an elite rebounder. He averaged 11.1 rebounds a game for Nets last year, playing about 25 min/game.
Elite rebounders know how to position themselves, go after every loose ball and get the damn ball.
All the best rebounders played well into their mid to late 30's. Look at dennis rodman and charles oakley, both had very limited offensive games and were elite rebounders late into their careers.
I say give Evans a chance to start and see how the team responds. Keeping the opposing team to one possession each time down the floor can't be a bad thing right?
Look, elite rebounders are hard to come by and Evans is an elite rebounder. He averaged 11.1 rebounds a game for Nets last year, playing about 25 min/game.
Elite rebounders know how to position themselves, go after every loose ball and get the damn ball.
All the best rebounders played well into their mid to late 30's. Look at dennis rodman and charles oakley, both had very limited offensive games and were elite rebounders late into their careers.
I say give Evans a chance to start and see how the team responds. Keeping the opposing team to one possession each time down the floor can't be a bad thing right?
Brooklyn could get away with starting a guy who rebounded, and did nothing else, because they had a guy starting who could block shots (Lopez), and other guys starting who could defend the perimeter (Bogans/Wallace). We don't have either of those things.
Thompson is a mediocre defender, but he's still better than Evans. He's actually probably our best interior defender, for whatever that's worth; he's certainly the most consistent. In the absence of a legitimate shot blocker, Thompson still needs to start.
King Baller
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Evans sets the best picks of this group. I happen to think that is pretty important. The Kings closed the gap at the end of the first half with Evans in the game. While I agree JT is the better all around player Evans may have more "impact" on the opposing team.
At this point I'm not sure. I need to see Evans play more with this squad. My heart says JT with all he has been thru as the longest tenured King. But I think Evans may strike actual fear in some players. The last time a player did this for the Kings was when Artest was here.
A JT/Evans/Landry/Acy PF rotation is pretty entertaining for a NBA geek such as myself
I like all those guys for different reasons. The common trait they all have is EFFORT.
At this point I'm not sure. I need to see Evans play more with this squad. My heart says JT with all he has been thru as the longest tenured King. But I think Evans may strike actual fear in some players. The last time a player did this for the Kings was when Artest was here.
A JT/Evans/Landry/Acy PF rotation is pretty entertaining for a NBA geek such as myself
I like all those guys for different reasons. The common trait they all have is EFFORT.Here's a question to consider....is the elite rebounding of an Evans better than the overall game of JT? I personally don't think there is much difference on the defensive side of both guys. JTs overall game is average at all aspects and I'm not trying to knock him as he's a solid 3rd big man. If Evans has 20 minutes per game left in the tank, he cleans the boards as well as anyone and is a physical presence.
Chubbs
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Evans sets the best picks of this group. I happen to think that is pretty important. The Kings closed the gap at the end of the first half with Evans in the game. While I agree JT is the better all around player Evans may have more "impact" on the opposing team.
At this point I'm not sure. I need to see Evans play more with this squad. My heart says JT with all he has been thru as the longest tenured King. But I think Evans may strike actual fear in some players. The last time a player did this for the Kings was when Artest was here.
A JT/Evans/Landry/Acy PF rotation is pretty entertaining for a NBA geek such as myself
If we could just combine them into one 6'11 pf we'd really have something.
I hear science is working on that somewhere under virginia.
Gary
All-Star
Against energy bigs putting another one in Evans works wonderful. Wait for good post players to judge Evans.
We're actually one of the few rosters where Evans makes a ton of sense starting (with the absence of a defensive goalie of course). Our top 3 is one of the most lethal scoring units in the NBA. It's right there with Bron/Wade/Bosh, Steph/Lee/Klay etc.
With Evans in the starting 5, our starting unit becomes one of the best rebounding units in the NBA. He and Cuz are top 5 rebounders. Gay is probably above average. Even Ben and IT aren't liabilites rebounding. So without having that defensive goalie, why not create try and create an advantage another way?
With Evans in the starting 5, our starting unit becomes one of the best rebounding units in the NBA. He and Cuz are top 5 rebounders. Gay is probably above average. Even Ben and IT aren't liabilites rebounding. So without having that defensive goalie, why not create try and create an advantage another way?
Actually they are. Being small/average in size/length and weak for your position is not conducive to getting rebounds.
Good point but one in which we need a guy like Evans against the Faried's. Evans neutralized Faried.....have we been able to do that with a sub? I'm just saying that Evans has been one of the best in the business at doing this....he's a b#tch to play against....no one says that about any of our other PFs. But I agree with your point of lets see what he does against a low post scorer...I'm curious.
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KingMilz
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Reggie Evans has given fits to the likes of Z-Bo in the past,against the slower less athletic post bigs he does a fine job defending them.
This is not really true: Evans is a much better rebounder, based on their rebounds per 36 (even though their raw numbers aren't really that different), but that's about it. Thompson is a better scorer, on a higher field goal percentage, shoots better from the line, is a better passer and FWIW, a much better shot blocker (he has nearly three times as many blocks, in half as many games). And he also commits fewer fouls and turnovers, per 36. Cite.
Evans has also had the luxury of playing on teams where he was allowed to get away with being a specialist, so he gets praised for how great a specialist he is. Thompson, whom was probably drafted 5-6 places too high, has always been expected to be this sort of jack-of-all-trades, and tends to be graded harshly for his inability to be great at any one thing, despite the fact that he's not actually bad at anything... Okay, he's pretty bad at help defense, but there's not really anything else in Thompson's game which you can point to and say, "He can't do that." On the other hand, despite being an elite rebounder, there are a lot of things in Evans' game that you can point to and say, "He can't ****ing do that." I can see giving Evans the majority of the minutes for certain match ups, but I wouldn't necessarily start him, and definitely wouldn't start him full time.
I know you continue to support JT and I salute you but I would take Evans every day.....but it's just a matter of opinion.
randymoss1881
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With Evans in the line up it will give IT/DMC/Gay more shots and a hustle PF with rebounding.
Gary
All-Star
I think Evans would be better for those three than Thompson is.
Your sense of my "support" of Thompson is grossly overblown. I don't think that he's that good: I just don't think that Evans is better, is all.
