Where are Joe and Gavin???

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Has anyone else noticed a lack of sightings at Kings games of the Maloof brothers? It seemed like it started last year, you would see them less and less often. They only seemed to show up in the playoffs. They have closed up their pocket books to stand pat, and I can't critisize them because they've been very generous these past few years, But could it be they've closed up their hearts as well?? Maybe they don't think this team can win anymore. Has anyone else noticed they have been invisible this year??
 
It's Christmas. I think they should be allowed to go be with the Maloof family for the holidays.
 
I cannot believe some of the stuff that's being posted around here. Because the Maloofs haven't been at a couple of games they don't care any more?

...sigh...
 
BTW and for the record they also have a booth/suite/whatever at Arco, which they tend to use this time of year to entertain friends who are in town for the holidays. That wouldn't show up on TV and Grant/Jerry don't generally report on it.
 
VF21 said:
I cannot believe some of the stuff that's being posted around here. Because the Maloofs haven't been at a couple of games they don't care any more?

...sigh...
Actually, I have to agree with some of the members. I haven't seen the Maloofs this season except once and I've already been to at least 10 games so far. Last year, I saw them everytime I was at the game last year. But don't get me wrong, I'm not saying they don't care, but I have notice that I haven't seen them.
 
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The Maloofs have family in Albuquerque, Las Vegas, NV and in Las Vegas, NM where they are originally from. For the holidays servicing personal family needs is difficult enough without us bellyaching about their presence at games. Sure the Kings are "family" but don't you think their personal family come first during the holidays? They are without a doubt the most supportive owners in the league, and the most visible. Just because you don't see them doesn't mean they are not there somewhere (see VF21 above).
 
CruzDude said:
The Maloofs have family in Albuquerque, Las Vegas, NV and in Las Vegas, NM where they are originally from. For the holidays servicing personal family needs is difficult enough without us bellyaching about their presence at games. Sure the Kings are "family" but don't you think their personal family come first during the holidays? They are without a doubt the most supportive owners in the league, and the most visible. Just because you don't see them doesn't mean they are not there somewhere (see VF21 above).
I'm not saying anything about Holidays. I "simply" stated that I've notice that I haven't seen them at the games I've attended.
 
This may not be very relivant, but I am a Monarchs season ticket holder and in past years they were even at a majority of the WNBA games, but in 2004 I think I saw them all of three times including the playoffs.


I know these guys have lifes, but when you have been such a presence for a number of years, then all of a sudden you are not around much, it is noticable. Not that they don't care, but I look at it like a parent. If the child is in trouble (and clearly the Kings have had more adversity in the last 12 months than the last 3-4 years combined), they feel more comfortable when the parent is around.
 
VF21 said:
BTW and for the record they also have a booth/suite/whatever at Arco, which they tend to use this time of year to entertain friends who are in town for the holidays. That wouldn't show up on TV and Grant/Jerry don't generally report on it.
I have season tickets and they haven't been in their court seats or their suite.
 
Rockmeister said:
Actually, I have to agree with some of the members. I haven't seen the Maloofs this season except once and I've already been to at least 10 games so far. Last year, I saw them everytime I was at the game last year. But don't get me wrong, I'm not saying they don't care, but I have notice that I haven't seen them.

same here...I'm not saying they don't care, I'm pretty sure they do cuz they're the owners..I just said I haven't seen them.
 
It's no coincidence. They even hinted that this would be the case eventually. I remember in the 2nd or 3rd year as owners here one of them said that if you want your business to succeed you have to plan to lose money the first 5 years, that you've got to incur certain expenses to get your name out there and set yourself up to be viable in the long run. So for those first 5 years the Maloofs went all out, made sure they were seen anytime the Kings were doing something. They told everyone about the Maloof Family Touch (or whatever the line was) about how "customers come first". And that was true in those years, if you don't put the fans first in the first 5, then who's going to buy the tickets, jerseys and cable subscriptions?

That was the building phase of their business. They signed as many players as needed and promoted the line of "customer first" and said all the right things to make sure you felt good. Think about what businesses they were in before buying the Kings and then think about the similarities in how those operations are run and how the Kings are being run right now. Those 5 years of establishing the business are up, the Maloofs are focused on the profits now. They've got others things to do (business-wise) besides show up at regular season games before the All-Star break just to be seen and shake hands with the fans. That's why you saw the Maloofs at center court back in 2000, jumping out of their seats when J-Will would make a highlight reel pass. That's why they were more than happy to give Webber, Christie and Bibby new contracts that may have been a little excessive and it's why you don't see them at as many games now and why they'd rather sign Anthony Peeler for about $700,000 than Jim Jackson for $1.2 million.
 
Kev.in said:
It's no coincidence. They even hinted that this would be the case eventually. I remember in the 2nd or 3rd year as owners here one of them said that if you want your business to succeed you have to plan to lose money the first 5 years, that you've got to incur certain expenses to get your name out there and set yourself up to be viable in the long run. So for those first 5 years the Maloofs went all out, made sure they were seen anytime the Kings were doing something. They told everyone about the Maloof Family Touch (or whatever the line was) about how "customers come first". And that was true in those years, if you don't put the fans first in the first 5, then who's going to buy the tickets, jerseys and cable subscriptions?

That was the building phase of their business. They signed as many players as needed and promoted the line of "customer first" and said all the right things to make sure you felt good. Think about what businesses they were in before buying the Kings and then think about the similarities in how those operations are run and how the Kings are being run right now. Those 5 years of establishing the business are up, the Maloofs are focused on the profits now. They've got others things to do (business-wise) besides show up at regular season games before the All-Star break just to be seen and shake hands with the fans. That's why you saw the Maloofs at center court back in 2000, jumping out of their seats when J-Will would make a highlight reel pass. That's why they were more than happy to give Webber, Christie and Bibby new contracts that may have been a little excessive and it's why you don't see them at as many games now and why they'd rather sign Anthony Peeler for about $700,000 than Jim Jackson for $1.2 million.
It make a whole lot of sense now that you think about it. My hope that these are the same guys that they were in 1999 when they were the fresh face of the NBA along with Mark Cuban. But Cuban is still very visible although he has made some questionable moves as of lat, i.e. Steve Nash.

My question is not do the Maloofs still want to win? We know that they do. My question is do they still want to win at any cost. It is clear that you have to embrace the latter philosophy more than the former. If the Kings do not make the Western Conference Finals and are competitive, Joe and Gavin are going to have to look straight in the mirror and swallow hard in defining the future of the Sacramento Kings. They do not have to show up every game to do that, but I think now is not the time to be unavailable. Come on KHTK and do an hour with the fans like you used to. Do a meaningful Q and A with the Sacramento Bee. Do something to refute what I feel is being perceived as a slightly (and I mean slightly) fading image. Unless the Kings make an improvement over the last two years of being bounced in round two in seven games. this organization will be at a serious crossroads
 
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CruzDude said:
The Maloofs have family in Albuquerque, Las Vegas, NV and in Las Vegas, NM where they are originally from. For the holidays servicing personal family needs is difficult enough without us bellyaching about their presence at games. Sure the Kings are "family" but don't you think their personal family come first during the holidays? They are without a doubt the most supportive owners in the league, and the most visible. Just because you don't see them doesn't mean they are not there somewhere (see VF21 above).
I wasn't talking about the holidays, If you read my post I also said most of last year too. And I didn't say they don't care I just was wondering if anyone else noticed their lack of attendance(this year and last). Look as far as I'm concerned maybe some of their actions are warranted. The Fans have gotten more and more negative and did absolutely nothing to back the team on the arena issue. I would never blame the Maloofs, If you ask me they are the best owners in the league. I'm just saying the honeymoons over.
 
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Purple Reign said:
It make a whole lot of sense now that you think about it. My hope that these are the same guys that they were in 1999 when they were the fresh face of the NBA along with Mark Cuban. But Cuban is still very visible although he has made some questionable moves as of lat, i.e. Steve Nash.

My question is not do the Maloofs still want to win? We know that they do. My question is do they still want to win at any cost. It is clear that you have to embrace the latter philosophy more than the former. If the Kings do not make the Western Conference Finals and are competitive, Joe and Gavin are going to have to look straight in the mirror and swallow hard in defining the future of the Sacramento Kings. They do not have to show up every game to do that, but I think now is not the time to be unavailable. Come on KHTK and do an hour with the fans like you used to. Do a meaningful Q and A with the Sacramento Bee. Do something to refute what I feel is being perceived as a slightly (and I mean slightly) fading image. Unless the Kings make an improvement over the last two years of being bounced in round two in seven games. this organization will be at a serious crossroads
--Well said.
 
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