What to do with Tyreke

[IfAt1st]

Tyreke had a lot of promise in his rookie year.
My whole family was excited about his possibilities for the Kings.

He hasn't remotely lived up to those promises, and has gotten steadily worse as teams have scouted him.
It's nearly 3 years in, and he still has no spot on the floor - he can't shoot, can't run an offense, and gives up his physical advantages at the SF ("point-forward").
When he runs the offense, the Kings become the most predictable team in the NBA, and routinely give up TO's and points the other way.
We've seen his slow walk-up, pound pound pound, failed pick-n-roll then hand the ball off with 5 seconds left on the shotclock to someone else who has to force something up enough for most rational fans to conclude that he hasn't figured out what's going on out there and why he can't make a play in the halfcourt set defense.

He is not Dwayne Wade.
We have to let that dream die, as rational basketball observers.

I would love for Tyreke to suddenly become a better player, learn the basketball and mental skills he's lacking, and lead the team to respectability again.
I just don't see evidence enough to support that he will - and in the meantime, I can't stand the kind of basketball the Kings play when they have catered to his play the past ~3 seasons. It's predictable, it's ugly, it's selfish, and it's too easy to scout/coach against.

My useless 2 cents.

 

[Kingster]

Voisin - I keep hearing the Kings hope to make a trade before the deadline, though none of the team's significant players are involved.

I guess that means we can forget Reke as trade bait not that i was ever an advocate

The thing is, based upon past experience where the media never seems to get it right, that may mean Petrie does the exact opposite. We'll see.

 

[macadocious]

Just pointing out that most of Stuckeys points came against Evans superior perimeter defense that everyone loves. This after Rush and Wright did the same thing the night before.

IIRC most of Stuckey's big run came when we were playing a 2-3 college zone. There is a reason why NBA teams don't play a 2-3 defense, especially against one with guys draining 3's.

Same thing happened vs. Warriors.

 

[Bricklayer]

IIRC most of Stuckey's big run came when we were playing a 2-3 college zone. There is a reason why NBA teams don't play a 2-3 defense, especially against one with guys draining 3's.

Same thing happened vs. Warriors.

Stuckey in fact scored all of zero points against Reke in the first quarter. 14 of his 33 happened while Reke was on the bench. And of the remianing 19 Thornton was on him for at least one 3pt play, and we were in a zone for part of the remaining 16.

 

[Section 101]

Stuckey in fact scored all of zero points against Reke in the first quarter. 14 of his 33 happened while Reke was on the bench. And of the remianing 19 Thornton was on him for at least one 3pt play, and we were in a zone for part of the remaining 16.

Really? I recall several plays where Stuckey was shooting over Evans nailing 3's and they weren't in a zone. Also, funny how Thornton was getting torched by Prince since midway in the first when he couldn't guard Stuckey and they swapped with Evans. I guess it's tough to play defense when your guarding both Stuckey and Prince at the same time.

 

[Bricklayer]

Really? I recall several plays where Stuckey was shooting over Evans nailing 3's and they weren't in a zone. Also, funny how Thornton was getting torched by Prince since midway in the first when he couldn't guard Stuckey and they swapped with Evans. I guess it's tough to play defense when your guarding both Stuckey and Prince at the same time.

Your recollections about Reke on pretty much anything are highly suspect, but I did not say that Stuckey NEVER scored on Reke. I said that he did not score on him at all in the first quarter and that I could account for more than half those points on somebody else. The 14 he got while Reke was on the bench is indisputable no matter how you try to twist it. The +1 over Thornton was also a prominent play. I would have to go back and chart out how many of the other 16 were over Reke in man defense vs. the zone.

And no, neither the 6'4" Thornton or 6'5" Reke can guard the 6'10" long armed Prince because, wait for it...neither guy is a SF!! Very difficult convept for Smart.

 

[Lockehead]

Tyreke had a lot of promise in his rookie year.
My whole family was excited about his possibilities for the Kings.

He hasn't remotely lived up to those promises, and has gotten steadily worse as teams have scouted him.
It's nearly 3 years in, and he still has no spot on the floor - he can't shoot, can't run an offense, and gives up his physical advantages at the SF ("point-forward").
When he runs the offense, the Kings become the most predictable team in the NBA, and routinely give up TO's and points the other way.
We've seen his slow walk-up, pound pound pound, failed pick-n-roll then hand the ball off with 5 seconds left on the shotclock to someone else who has to force something up enough for most rational fans to conclude that he hasn't figured out what's going on out there and why he can't make a play in the halfcourt set defense.

He is not Dwayne Wade.
We have to let that dream die, as rational basketball observers.

I would love for Tyreke to suddenly become a better player, learn the basketball and mental skills he's lacking, and lead the team to respectability again.
I just don't see evidence enough to support that he will - and in the meantime, I can't stand the kind of basketball the Kings play when they have catered to his play the past ~3 seasons. It's predictable, it's ugly, it's selfish, and it's too easy to scout/coach against.

My useless 2 cents.

I think a lot of that is due to him trying to be a PG. If we make him a SG, he'll become more selective of his shots, decision making, and playing without the ball among other things. It'll extend off the court as well.

As an aside, where did the "Reke is a PG" thing really start anyway? Was it part of some media exposure thing that would compare Reke to the other PG's in the league? Since the PG position is probably the most glorified position in the game today. I find it hard to believe that watching Reke gave the impression that he's a PG because it's hard, at least to me, to see why.