What has to happen to move forward next year
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It’s worth putting in perspective just what a warrior domas has been all season. 50% of the league prolly doesn’t play through the broken finger in the regular season. People also seemed to just laugh off the impact of the ‘stomp’ as just another weenie euro trying to win an acting job and the the team playing games with his X-rays and questionable game status, but maybe, just maybe he was actually pretty seriously hurt. Just because he played through it doesn’t mean it didn’t impact his play. His black eye is an issue nobody can deny.
Before I write off this team as never winning a championship with Domas as center, I for one certainly want to see him fail in a fair fight. It’s crazy how people ***** and moan about game management and fragile players like Anthony Davis sitting all the time with injuries, but then pile on one of the toughest guys in the nba who left it all out there, all season long without complaints.
Before I write off this team as never winning a championship with Domas as center, I for one certainly want to see him fail in a fair fight. It’s crazy how people ***** and moan about game management and fragile players like Anthony Davis sitting all the time with injuries, but then pile on one of the toughest guys in the nba who left it all out there, all season long without complaints.
A big question still hovers though, what does this team look like without Fox and Sabonis creating all the shots? That's still not addressing the issues with this team finding offense or playmaking come serious time. The Kings even though Fox got hurt at the worst time and Sabonis was injured most of the season had HUGE luck when it came to that. There is a direct connection between Monk filling the gap in scoring or someone like TD getting all those game 7 minutes. Cam Johnson is 43rd percentile on iso, Barnes is 93rd. Both had a middling freq % though. Barnes has a FT freq of 30. Johnson is at 6.7. My fear is Kuz is a target. Talk about all numbers, little substance. This team has it's big two for better or worse, now Monte has to find out how to make life a little easier for them.
The bold names are the ones who wouldn't slow us down (since it is obvious that our pace and relentlessness are our best weapons), and the bold underlined ones are tall wings/bigs. Among them, I would only want to look at Naz Reid and Jerami Grant. I know some of you really like Kuzma, I'm not a fan of his effort, similar thing with Oubre. To me, they are taller versions of Monk/TD, could heat up quickly (I think both Oubre and Kuz are pretty consistent offensively) but could also create chaos that hurts us back.
I mean, I can kinda understand to a certain degree. They say among sports coaches, in a ride-or-die scenario, your best bet is always to ride with your stars and live with the result. As they are the only ones who could have posed such an impact that they win the game for you by themselves.
I'd still wonder if Brown could've temporary use the bench to keep it from bleeding.
I'd still wonder if Brown could've temporary use the bench to keep it from bleeding.
Watch the Kings the whole season KOC. Was Domas ever this bad in a 7 game stretch? No.
Health and possibly his worst match-up in terms of a team designed to slow him down and that's been slowing down elite bigs for a decade. I'll trust the All-NBA season was more real than what we saw in this playoff series.
Maybe that changes next year if he's healthy in the playoffs and continues to struggle. But to put that on him now... silly and impatient.
Health and possibly his worst match-up in terms of a team designed to slow him down and that's been slowing down elite bigs for a decade. I'll trust the All-NBA season was more real than what we saw in this playoff series.
Maybe that changes next year if he's healthy in the playoffs and continues to struggle. But to put that on him now... silly and impatient.
Maybe, but Metu types are a temporary fix anyway. When they actually work. Looney would be just as tough a matchup for Metu as anyone if Metu was expected to fill the C role. Two PF's is a no no. Proven, done and dusted time to move on, haha. It was either he or Lyles in the end and Lyles won out. As he should have.
60.7% TS
.304 FTr
13.7 TRB%
7.0 AST %
12.2% TOV
18.1% USG
63.2% TS
.522 FTr
7.9% TRB
6.3% Ast
8.1% TOV
17.1% USG
It's worth a discussion, absolutely. Especially if we start to factor in playoff performance... Oh my Barnes was bad. He's the #1 guy I'm looking at now that should have been a difference maker and was a main factor why we lost this series.
Lyles: +16.9 On/Off (holy crap)
Barnes: -28.3 On/Off (Even bigger holy crap. Game 7 stuff isn't updated yet, but I'm almost wondering if this is a mistake somehow.)
.304 FTr
13.7 TRB%
7.0 AST %
12.2% TOV
18.1% USG
63.2% TS
.522 FTr
7.9% TRB
6.3% Ast
8.1% TOV
17.1% USG
It's worth a discussion, absolutely. Especially if we start to factor in playoff performance... Oh my Barnes was bad. He's the #1 guy I'm looking at now that should have been a difference maker and was a main factor why we lost this series.
Lyles: +16.9 On/Off (holy crap)
Barnes: -28.3 On/Off (Even bigger holy crap. Game 7 stuff isn't updated yet, but I'm almost wondering if this is a mistake somehow.)
Yeah, Metu is hard to be trusted in the Playoffs. I don't anticipate seeing him around too much longer if we are to make some changes this off-season.
Just from memories this season, I think Metu did a good, celebratory-worthy thing about as often as when HGiiizzle was with us and we over-celebrated things he did because we love him... haha
Just from memories this season, I think Metu did a good, celebratory-worthy thing about as often as when HGiiizzle was with us and we over-celebrated things he did because we love him... haha
Jerami Grant should fit the bill for what we need no?
I'm not convinced that Barnes is an answer here despite his leadership role and professionalism.
I think for what he makes we need more.
I also think Harrison is not going to get any better on defense at this point since he's getting older.
Him missing shots was very disappointing and him missing free throws was also very disappointing and that extends to the regular season.
I understand Grant is a tenacious player that can defend and score right?
The thing I don't know about him is his attitude.
This team has done a good job of putting together a group that's drama free and united, I know Grant has had some issues on past teams (I think) so that may need to be taken into consideration as well.
Can't have toxicity in that locker room.
Basketball wise though it should work right?
Maybe we can just leave it as that.
Perhaps let Barnes walk (or sign him to a short lesser deal), sign Grant, get a solid draft pick, and run it back.
Play Len at backup C, have Domas work on his shooting and non bully-ball game all off-season (post surgery recovery obviously), have Davion fix his shot which is still inconsistent, keep integrating Edwards into that 3+D role, and maybe see what we have in Queta?
I think I'd be cool with that
I'm not convinced that Barnes is an answer here despite his leadership role and professionalism.
I think for what he makes we need more.
I also think Harrison is not going to get any better on defense at this point since he's getting older.
Him missing shots was very disappointing and him missing free throws was also very disappointing and that extends to the regular season.
I understand Grant is a tenacious player that can defend and score right?
The thing I don't know about him is his attitude.
This team has done a good job of putting together a group that's drama free and united, I know Grant has had some issues on past teams (I think) so that may need to be taken into consideration as well.
Can't have toxicity in that locker room.
Basketball wise though it should work right?
Maybe we can just leave it as that.
Perhaps let Barnes walk (or sign him to a short lesser deal), sign Grant, get a solid draft pick, and run it back.
Play Len at backup C, have Domas work on his shooting and non bully-ball game all off-season (post surgery recovery obviously), have Davion fix his shot which is still inconsistent, keep integrating Edwards into that 3+D role, and maybe see what we have in Queta?
I think I'd be cool with that
I just don't see it with Grant. He's 29, so you're paying for his 29-33 age seasons (Assuming a deal is somewhere in the range of 4-80 for him) and he's just another flavor of Barnes imo. Good-Great starter but I don't think he's someone putting this team over the top and certainly not someone who's any sort of massive upgrade over Barnes.
I'd rather go gamble on one of the younger guys (Williams, Cam Johnson, Naz, PJW) and see if you can unlock any more of a ceiling in one of them. Go try and unlock a potential star rather than paying for past production (Barnes/Grant/Kuzma?)
I'd rather go gamble on one of the younger guys (Williams, Cam Johnson, Naz, PJW) and see if you can unlock any more of a ceiling in one of them. Go try and unlock a potential star rather than paying for past production (Barnes/Grant/Kuzma?)
Not without getting out of the Holmes deal. Look a lot of things could happen in very short order. It's been a long time since the league shifted like it did at the deadline and that might lead to the kind of transformational draft night people have been expecting for a few seasons now. Dame is the biggest domino. Are the Blazers sticking it out? Or finally tapping out? Toronto has been leaking things that they might finally be open for business. The Wiz need to pick direction and finally Beal might be ready to go. The Bulls are on the verge of a bust up. I'm not sure FA is going to be much when you look at the teams with space this summer. Which one of those teams go all in. Maybe the Jazz? Do the Thunder make a big splash now with Chet ready to go next year? Next year is just going to be tougher. The Kings have to stay aggressive. If teams like the Pels or Thunder blow up it will just change the difficulty to harder.
If you want to make a jump 29-33 is usually the prime years you look at. Grant would have a much better off the dribble game than anyone other than Fox even though the metrics aren't all that great with him. He passes the eyes test though. He'd help but yeah, max? Oof, that's an overpay but if you're competing it's better to overpay than slightly underpay on something that doesn't connect the dots you need to connect.
What does everyone think of Brook Lopez? I was surprised to see that he was only making 13 million a year. A big who could shoot the 3 and provide good defense with shot blocking. He may have reinvented his game and revived his career, but at the same time he's 35. Maybe too old for the Kings and the style that they play.