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On poor shooting night, U.S. beats Germany with D


http://sports.espn.go.com/oly/wbc2006/news/story?id=2565902

SAITAMA, Japan -- Once they realized they couldn't shoot, the Americans knew they had to make sure Dirk Nowitzki couldn't, either.
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Dirk Nowitzki, left, couldn't stop Carmelo and the U.S. by himself.


Carmelo Anthony scored 10 of his 19 points in the third quarter, when the United States finally took control with its pressure defense, and the Americans went on to beat Germany 85-65 Wednesday night in the quarterfinals of the world championships.
The U.S. overcame its worst offensive performance of the tournament with one of its best defensive efforts, limiting Germany to 26 points in the second half and forcing Nowitzki to miss nine of his 12 shots.
"Dirk is unstoppable, so we tried to send in as many defenders as possible," LeBron James said. "You've just got to contain a guy like that and hope he misses some shots. He only had 12 attempts so we know we did a good job."
James added 13 points for the U.S., which broke away from a one-point halftime lead by using a flurry of steals and blocks to outscore Germany 16-2 over a nearly 6-minute span in the third period.
The Americans (7-0) remained one of the four unbeaten teams and advanced to face European champion Greece (7-0) Friday night in the semifinals. Greece beat France 73-56 earlier Wednesday.
But this was unlike the other American victories in Japan.
Instead of looking like the team that came in averaging 109.3 points, the Americans looked like the ones that have come up short in recent years because of a lack of perimeter shooting. They shot 37.6 percent (32-of-85) and were 10-of-40 from 3-point range.
But they kept it from being costly by pressuring Germany's guards and preventing them from getting the ball to Nowitzki, who finished with 15 points and five turnovers.
"It wasn't a great shooting night tonight, but I thought it was OK," American guard Joe Johnson said. "We started making shots late, but I thought our defense was great. We made it tough on Dirk and his teammates and that's what it's about. We've got to play great defense to win a championship."
The offense needs to get better against Greece and then either Spain or Argentina -- whose players watched the game from behind the basket.
"I'm happy with the way we executed in the halfcourt against the zone, but wasn't pleased with the way we finished," U.S. coach Mike Krzyzewski said. "We'll shoot better on Friday and hopefully on Sunday, if we get the looks we had today."
Ademola Okulaja added 15 points for Germany, the bronze medalist in the 2002 world championships. The Germans (5-2) will face France in a classification-round game on Thursday night and can still finish fifth.

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Leading 40-39 at the break, the U.S. came out with a new lineup -- Anthony, James, Johnson, Kirk Hinrich and Dwight Howard -- and forced three turnovers in the first 1:01 of the third quarter.
The Germans were still within a point before Anthony followed a 3-pointer with a steal a dunk. Elton Brand's follow shot made it 51-43 with 6:41 remaining in the period.
Okulaja made a jumper, but Anthony drilled another 3, Dwyane Wade made a free throw, Johnson had a basket and Chris Bosh converted a three-point play on an alley-oop that extended the Americans' lead to 60-45 with 1:53 left in the quarter.
"In the beginning of the second half, they turned up the heat defensively and they caused us to be a little more hectic," Germany's Johannes Herber said. "We turned the ball over a couple of times and they get easy [baskets] and they hit two or three 3s. And all of a sudden it's 10 points and it's hard to get back in the game against them."
The U.S. had five blocked shots and seven steals in the quarter, taking a 67-52 lead on Chris Paul's jumper as the buzzer sounded.
Sitting back in a zone that featured Nowitzki, fellow 7-footer Patrick Femerling and 6-8 Okulaja along the back line, Germany forced the U.S. to shoot from the outside. And unlike Sunday's rout of Australia, when the Americans were 14-of-27 from 3-point range, they were woeful behind the arc Wednesday.
The Americans were 5-of-20 in the first half, including one miss when Wade appeared to try to bank one in and it missed the rim entirely -- and that was while he could still see straight.
Wade went to the bench a few minutes later after taking a shot near the eye from Pascal Roller while going for a loose ball. He sat the remainder of the half and returned 4½ minutes into the third quarter -- and promptly threw up an airball on his first shot attempt.
But Germany could never take much of a lead because of foul trouble. Both Nowitzki and Okulaja were on the bench in the final minute with three apiece, and the U.S. took a 40-39 lead when Anthony made a 3-pointer with 47 seconds to go.
"I think we had enough chances to play a good first half," Nowitzki said. "We started turning the ball over there in the third quarter a little bit. Then they ran away with it. They're good when they have the lead."
Anthony missed his first eight shots and was 2-of-12 in the first half. Wade -- who came in combining with Anthony for nearly 40 points per game -- was 1-for-7 in the half and finished 1-of-11 for three points.
 
it was closer than the score indicates. dirk was not at his usual level of play. lebron and wade pretty much sucked as well. brad did not play at all. i am really eager to see what this team can do against the greeks and then one of argentina/spain. probably they will not shoot as poorly as today ever again, but that might not cut it in the finals if they ever get there.
 
Without the nba refs suddenly bron and wade look mortal and are shooting air balls, even a bank shot missing a rim is what the finals mvp could show up
 
Without the nba refs suddenly bron and wade look mortal and are shooting air balls, even a bank shot missing a rim is what the finals mvp could show up


So when they have a bad game it's because the refs in FIBA are better than NBA but you never say anything when they have a good game, which Wade has had quite a few of...
 
Not usually going to play offensively like today, but glad to see the US fell back on the defense :). Which they can because of their depth and versatility.

Dirk not at his usual level? That's just too bad then. Being on a team like Germany, he should be up to his usual level every game - especially against a team like the US. (edit, after reading some more - ) Dirk was taken out of the game by the US defense, and to a lesser degree, foul trouble.

So when they have a bad game it's because the refs in FIBA are better than NBA but you never say anything when they have a good game, which Wade has had quite a few of...

Indeed.
 
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it was not as much as the us defense and bogus calls as himself feeling/showing exhaustion. dirk has exaggerated; he played last summer, he played the last playoff game in the nba and now he is playing again. that is too much, even for him.
 
So when they have a bad game it's because the refs in FIBA are better than NBA but you never say anything when they have a good game, which Wade has had quite a few of...

people keep saying that lebron has been having a bad tournament since the beginning. wade, i don't know; this was the first game i had the chance to see him against a not-so-weak defense. he stunk. and yes, the fiba refs are at least trying to be impartial; they do not have different standards for different players. that is why i think nba has become a spin off of basketball. something (arguably) entertaining but definitely different from basketball.
 
If the US shoots like that in their upcoming games, don't think they will be able to win. Highly doubt they'll be that bad again though... hopefully anyways :)

I think the reason Lebron hasn't looked as good (and Wade to a certain extent) is that while they are amazing players, neither of them have a great consistent jump shot. LeBron at least can pass, but both of them must get "hot" to be able to start nailiing jumpers.

Carmelo has shown that he is the more fundamentally sound all-around player of the three. His game is much more suited for international play.

Wade has been really good at times, even without the jump shot his athleticism is amazing.

I think it just highlights the differences between the NBA and International game is all.
 
Indeed, Wade has really stuggled this tournament.

I mean he's only the 9th leading scorer in the tournament, averaging 17.2pts in all of 20.5min while shooting 63.3%. :rolleyes:

Clearly Stern has bought off the FIBA refs too. The bastard!
 
Indeed, Wade has really stuggled this tournament.

I mean he's only the 9th leading scorer in the tournament, averaging 17.2pts in all of 20.5min while shooting 63.3%. :rolleyes:

Clearly Stern has bought off the FIBA refs too. The bastard!


See that is exactly what I am talking about. He hasn't been averaging 27 PPG like in the NBA obviously but how can he on this team which is basically an all star team? 17 PPG in 20 mins shooting 63% is GREAT but when he has a bad game people say it's because he's not a good FIBA player because the refs are better.

Vladetomiller lets see what you have to say when he has another good game which will probably be soon.
 
Without the nba refs suddenly bron and wade look mortal and are shooting air balls, even a bank shot missing a rim is what the finals mvp could show up

By that logic, Dirk is a fraud as well. He looked terrible in the first half and when he finally asserted himself a little bit it was completely irrelevant because his team was toast.
 
it was not as much as the us defense and bogus calls as himself feeling/showing exhaustion. dirk has exaggerated; he played last summer, he played the last playoff game in the nba and now he is playing again. that is too much, even for him.

He was so tired today that he scored almost twice as many points as he did against the US and in the same amount of minutes and with the same result (loss). Now he can finally rest up.
 
it was not as much as the us defense and bogus calls as himself feeling/showing exhaustion. dirk has exaggerated; he played last summer, he played the last playoff game in the nba and now he is playing again. that is too much, even for him.

Good points. But Dirk has scored highly like 3 or 4 times so far at least. Another key thing though, the US took advantage of their ability and Germany's situation to win. Main thing of that was Dirk getting taken out of the game.

He was so tired today that he scored almost twice as many points as he did against the US and in the same amount of minutes and with the same result (loss). Now he can finally rest up.

Heh, indeed..
 
He was so tired today that he scored almost twice as many points as he did against the US and in the same amount of minutes and with the same result (loss). Now he can finally rest up.

quite irrelevant to what i was saying. dirk can ball against lesser teams even when he is 50% of his usual self. it is just that, had he been "fresh", he would not have had such an abysmal game against team usa.
 
quite irrelevant to what i was saying. dirk can ball against lesser teams even when he is 50% of his usual self. it is just that, had he been "fresh", he would not have had such an abysmal game against team usa.

Then why did he score well (including a 43 point game) in at least 3 other games before the game vs. USA? That's where your point doesn't connect.

There's obviously a difference, and it was the US taking advantage of Germany's team situation and shut Dirk down with their defense.
 
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Then why did he score well (including a 43 point game) in at least 3 other games before the game vs. USA? That's where your point doesn't connect.

There's obviously a difference, and it was the US taking advantage of Germany's team situation and shut Dirk down with their defense.

lesser teams. but anyway, that is a moot point now. i am quite enjoying the moment. and considering that greece was supposed to be the weakest link in these semi-finals, i will be surprised if team usa wins any medal at all.
 
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lesser teams
Exactly. There ya go ;).

Now, it is a moot point because you quit being ignorant towards what actually happened.

Yup, enjoy the moment. Not sure why this would effect that or be related to this topic. Anyway, Greece was impressive, and I never gathered them as being "weak" at all.
 
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