Tyreke Evans the next Dwayne Wade??

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Im reading that Tyreke Evans is comparable to Dwayne Wade. If Kings take him at #4 and he brings everything that D-Wade brings, I'm all for picking Tyreke Evans. Having a D-Wade type player is something the Kings need. Someone who has handles and can take it to the rim anytime he wants too.

One of the articles that I read with the D-Wade comparison
http://walterfootball.com/nbadraft2009evans.php
 
Yeah.... I had stated I want either Rubio or Evans at #4. Rubio has a huge potential to be one of the best pure point in recent memory

Evans seems like he can step in day 1 and make an impact because of his playing style and size. Evans has very high potential also.

At this point, I just hope its 1 of these 2 and not a Curry or Thabeet.
 
If anyone had any kind of confidence in that comparison, Evans would be far and away the consensus #1 pick.
 
Actually in body type, they're a bit similar--not terribly large verts, huge wingspans, similar strength levels--but Wade has far greater lateral quickness than Evans has, so he really recovered well to block shots or surprise people in college (although Evans is also a decent shotblocker, just not on Wade's level). If Evans puts up very good athletic markers, then Wade's were at the godly level--he was a superb rebounder and had an elite free throw rate for a guard out of college, both of which exceed what Evans has done. And similar styles of games--score-first potential stat stuffers with defensive potential/ability. But besides the athletic differences, what separates the two is really work ethic--Wade really improved himself on the fly in the NBA and developed into a superstar by putting the work in, and Evans...? That really, really remains to be seen. But I've said Evans has a super high ceiling in the past, just that he might not reach it.
 
NBAGURU said:
Im reading that Tyreke Evans is comparable to Dwayne Wade. If Kings take him at #4 and he brings everything that D-Wade brings, I'm all for picking Tyreke Evans. Having a D-Wade type player is something the Kings need. Someone who has handles and can take it to the rim anytime he wants too.

One of the articles that I read with the D-Wade comparison
http://walterfootball.com/nbadraft2009evans.php
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Yes, but I've read that Ricky Rubio is a combination of Steve Nash and Pistol Pete which is better.

Player comparisons for draft picks are always a terrible idea. FWIW, that same site's mock draft compares Evans to Ginobili (and Thabeet to Ben Wallace "but six inches taller"?) and I don't think either of those are on the mark.

Evans isn't nearly as explosive as Wade is when going to the cup and his drives to the hoop lack Dwayne's control and recognition. And whether he can actually attack the basket consistently on the NBA level is something we'll have to find out. I'm not saying he won't be a good player (though I'm far from convinced that he will) but he's not Dwayne Wade IMO.
 
funkykingston said:
Yes, but I've read that Ricky Rubio is a combination of Steve Nash and Pistol Pete which is better.

Player comparisons for draft picks are always a terrible idea. FWIW, that same site's mock draft compares Evans to Ginobili (and Thabeet to Ben Wallace "but six inches taller"?) and I don't think either of those are on the mark.

Evans isn't nearly as explosive as Wade is when going to the cup and his drives to the hoop lack Dwayne's control and recognition. And whether he can actually attack the basket consistently on the NBA level is something we'll have to find out. I'm not saying he won't be a good player (though I'm far from convinced that he will) but he's not Dwayne Wade IMO.
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guy is much more like Larry Hughes than Dwade...
 
NBAGURU said:
Im reading that Tyreke Evans is comparable to Dwayne Wade. If Kings take him at #4 and he brings everything that D-Wade brings, I'm all for picking Tyreke Evans. Having a D-Wade type player is something the Kings need. Someone who has handles and can take it to the rim anytime he wants too.

One of the articles that I read with the D-Wade comparison
http://walterfootball.com/nbadraft2009evans.php
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Wade is more athletic, but Evans has better handles and is more crafty with the ball, allowing him to blow by quick Pgs. I'm not sure who Evans compares to... I've never seen anyone his size with that penetration ability. Maybe a Manu Ginobili without the shooting ability yet.
 
Great! Now we have C.Barkley, D. Mutombo, S. Nash and D. Wade to pick from in the top 4 alone. And to think that some people called it a weak draft!


:p


People who do mock draft sites shouldn't talk to agents. Really.
 
fnordius said:
Great! Now we have C.Barkley, D. Mutombo, S. Nash and D. Wade to pick from in the top 4 alone. And to think that some people called it a weak draft!


:p


People who do mock draft sites shouldn't talk to agents. Really.
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Did you hear Jerry Reynolds hammering Chad Ford on that point this morning on the Rise Guys? Wow.

And you forgot that Brandon Jennings is the next Iverson.

Every year, despite the actual talent in the draft people start falling in love with draft picks and convincing themselves that they are better than they really are. I'd wager that close to or exactly half of the players taken in the top ten of this draft will be considered busts in three years.

I think Evans is one of them.
 
i see alot of worrying if Evans is a true pg. Our offense wasn't bad enough that it cost us all those loses last year. What was bad was our defense, specifically our perimeter defense. Now from most reports Evans is dominating in that particular area. Holiday is another one that is a good defender. Rubio not so much. I feel like some have a vision of Rubio throwing no look passes to JT for a dunk or ally-oops to Martin from the wing. remember chemistry is the key. Rubio has played year round with the same guys for 4 years. Give me an NBA starting 5 that stayed in tact for 4 years and I'll show you a contender.
 
Entity said:
i see alot of worrying if Evans is a true pg. Our offense wasn't bad enough that it cost us all those loses last year. What was bad was our defense, specifically our perimeter defense. Now from most reports Evans is dominating in that particular area. Holiday is another one that is a good defender. Rubio not so much. I feel like some have a vision of Rubio throwing no look passes to JT for a dunk or ally-oops to Martin from the wing. remember chemistry is the key. Rubio has played year round with the same guys for 4 years. Give me an NBA starting 5 that stayed in tact for 4 years and I'll show you a contender.
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Where do you get your information that Rubio isn't a good defender? All signs point to him being a great defender (especially in Europe). I agree with the rest of your post though... Tyreke is a great defender, and physically imposing and probably in the paint as well.. Which is where KMart won't take himself. I think he'd be a great fit for us personally.
 
Nighthawk1 said:
Where do you get your information that Rubio isn't a good defender? All signs point to him being a great defender (especially in Europe). I agree with the rest of your post though... Tyreke is a great defender, and physically imposing and probably in the paint as well.. Which is where KMart won't take himself. I think he'd be a great fit for us personally.
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Rubio looks like he plays "smart" team defense and is good at anticipation and stealing passes. But I think he'll struggle on defense in the NBA, where there are much more isolation and 1 on 1 plays. In europe, zone defense is played like in the NCAA , so individual defensive weaknesses are masked.
 
Vlade4GM said:
I highly doubt Rubio will ever be a great defender. Okay man defender, very good team defender.
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We never know, you could easily be right... But we know he should be a pretty good defender compared to what we're used to here lately at that position.... I will give him full credit based on his credentials, but I can easily admit you can be very right!
 
Nighthawk1 said:
We never know, you could easily be right... But we know he should be a pretty good defender compared to what we're used to here lately at that position.... I will give him full credit based on his credentials, but I can easily admit you can be very right!
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He simply doesn't have the lateral quickness to be a great defender IMO, and he's yet to put on the strength. The wingspan measurement that came out was a bit concerning, but that might have more to do with his shoulder width rather than his arm length.

He's going to be facing much tougher assignments in the NBA than in the ACB, so getting an award there really doesn't mean it will transfer. He should have value on that end though, I just think you shouldn't be expecting anything like Kidd, Payton, Rondo, etc. on defense.
 
ElRey said:
Rubio looks like he plays "smart" team defense and is good at anticipation and stealing passes. But I think he'll struggle on defense in the NBA, where there are much more isolation and 1 on 1 plays. In europe, zone defense is played like in the NCAA , so individual defensive weaknesses are masked.
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I agree with this. I think when considering team defense it's important to keep in mind that the NBA game is much more spread out because of the longer 3 point line and the way the game is played. I don't doubt that Rubio has quick hands and might be good for steals, but it's going to be another adjustment to the NBA game, and I don't think it's a coincidence that the best defending NBA point guards are guys like Rondo, Paul, Harris, and Westbrook, who are also some of the quickest in the game.
 
I dont think he's quite like Dwayne Wade, i think a more accurate comparison can be Rodney Stuckey (6'5) who was a PG/SG in college aswell. So far Stuckey has been awsome at PG for the Pistons. I think having a dominant ball handler that can penetrate and dish beside off ball mover Martin would be a sick backcourt. My only question with Evans is can he guard other PGs?
 
When I said Rubio not so much that was in comparison to Evans. Evans and Holiday are on a completely differnet level when it comes to defense than any other pg in the draft. But with Evans you get the imposing offenseive player as well. Evans will be a good to great NBA player simply becuase he is an assett on either end of the court. Picture Ron Artest with the ball skills, speed and quickness at the pg position.

I just see Evans dominating pg's on either end of the court. I see Rubio as a great playmaker once the chemistry sets in. I don't see Rubio dominating. I don't think Evans will be the playmaker some of us want but, i don't think he is completely lacking in that area.
 
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