There's a Wells, few other ways

BigWaxer

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I did not find this posted anywhere, Mods please delete if I missed it

http://www.sacbee.com/content/sports/basketball/kings/story/13265078p-14107502c.html
By Martin McNeal -- Bee Staff Writer

Some key quotes

Because the Kings are over the salary cap, they never were true players in the free-agency game. Their best chance to acquire an impact player is through a trade. That means the shrinking pool of free agents may not be so damaging to the Kings.

Which I agree with, I don't think there is much out there in terms of FA that can really help us. I would rather see a nice blockbuster trade.

" (Kings president) Geoff (Petrie) says the team has interest in Mo and Mo still has interest in Sacramento," Montgomery said. "And negotiations are ongoing, but if I had to gauge right now, I'm not real optimistic about Mo's chances of playing in Sacramento. "But, of course, that's how I feel (Tuesday)."


Translated in Petrie Speak: Say goodbye to MO...
 
I agree Aries just posting the article. A lot of people here think MO should be a starter for us. While I think he is a good backup, he is not a starter for a team that "wants" to win a ring.
 
Bonzi Wells trade

Here's the Memphis Commercial Appeal's version of the trade story.

Only time will tell whether a deal comes to fruition and, if it does, whether it's a winner or loser. The key, in my mind, is to add to the talent base, so if the Kings can acquire a starter without giving one up, it's worth a try despite Bonzi's reputation. I'm not comfortable with the thought of entering the season with Kevin Martin and Francisco Garcia as the only big guards on the team (although Garcia certainly had some outstanding moments vs. the Clippers in the game televised yesterday).

If Petrie manages to reel in Wells and, say, Eddie Griffith without giving up a core player, I'd have to consider that a successful off-season given the circumstances.


[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]URL: http://www.commercialappeal.com/mca/grizzlies/article/0,1426,MCA_475_3939352,00.html[/font]Wells's future to be known by weekend


NBA's bargaining agreement will not affect negotiations

By Ronald Tillery
Contact

July 20, 2005

Speculation that the NBA will extend a moratorium on signing free agents from Friday to next month will not affect Bonzi Wells's contract status, according to the Grizzly guard's agent.

League sources indicated Tuesday that the collective bargaining agreement won't be finalized this week and the delay could prevent teams from signing free-agent contracts until Aug. 1.

The Grizzlies and Wells agreed to extend the deadline for deciding on an $8 million team option to coincide with ratification of the CBA. That was supposed to happen by Friday.

But Wells will either have the option picked up with a trade on the table or become an unrestricted free agent by the weekend.

Wells is not interested in prolonging the process beyond Friday.

"We expect a resolution," said William Phillips, who Wells retained as his agent following the season. "At the end of the day, Bonzi will be fine. The closer we get to the 22nd, the more serious the discussions get."

At least seven teams have expressed interest in Wells. The Grizzles have had more than cursory conversations with Boston, Dallas, Washington, Sacramento, Detroit, Utah and the Los Angeles Clippers regarding Wells.

A Grizzly insider indicated that team president Jerry West is close to consummating a deal with one of those teams. It is believed that Sacramento and the Los Angeles Clippers have emerged as the strongest suitors.

Wells, 29, is considered the best guard available now that Ray Allen, Michael Redd, Bobby Simmons, Larry Hughes and Cuttino Mobley have agreed in principle to sign new deals.

Wells can be traded at anytime once his option is picked up. The NBA's moratorium only applies to free agents.

West has shopped for deals since Wells was unceremoniously and inexplicably removed from the team during the playoffs. If the Griz pass on the option and allow Wells to become an unrestricted free agent, the team would seek to consummate a sign-and-trade deal to receive compensation.

The Griz also are attempting to execute a sign-and-trade transaction with free agent guard Earl Watson. But that scenario becomes more unlikely if the league extends its moratorium.

On Monday, five-year veteran Stromile Swift announced his intention to sign with the Houston Rockets without the Grizzlies receiving anything in return. Swift, an unrestricted free agent, will sign a five-year deal worth around $30 million.
 
Clippers the other strong suiter? I can't imagine why, unless they plan on trading Cat to get Wells, which would certainly ruffle his (Mobley's) feathers. I also would be more than happy to see wells come cheap, his addition would make me feel much better about this team.

Also the original article mentions other FAs the Kings are looking at. I would be happy to see Dale Davis, Steven Hunter or Robert Traylor come cheap to play backup C or PF. Adds some defense, rebounding and a big body off the bench. Also nice to pair one of those guys with Ostertag, gives us some nice muscle for stretches off the bench. Also, Earl Watson is on that list. Nice, young guy. I'm thinking the Kings are looking at him to back up Mike if we trade Bobby, so probably we trade Bobby to get Wells and then sign Watson. Team looks like this:
Bibby/Watson
Peja/Corliss
Wells/Garcia/Martin
Thomas/(Hunter/Traylor/Davis)
Miller/Ostertag/Skinner

Looks a little better than last year.
 
BigWaxer said:
I did not find this posted anywhere, Mods please delete if I missed it

http://www.sacbee.com/content/sports/basketball/kings/story/13265078p-14107502c.html
By Martin McNeal -- Bee Staff Writer

Some key quotes



Which I agree with, I don't think there is much out there in terms of FA that can really help us. I would rather see a nice blockbuster trade.




Translated in Petrie Speak: Say goodbye to MO...

We can't believe what agents say all the time. ;)

Seriously, no one should.

Mo's not gonna be starting elsewhere, his best chance is here. If he isn't back here next season, he'll be coming off the bench for another team. So, I'm not that worried about him going off somewhere else. If anywhere it'd be for the Bobcats, but they have Bogans already slotted there, and have said they will.

Clippers said they want Wells for the bench, in a article some days ago. I don't see that happening at all, just like SAR for their bench mentioned in the same article didn't happen.

Kings getting Wells and Watson, would be terrific. Watson would be a sweet back-up for Bibby like B-Jax was (sadly, I don't know if Jackson could be for the Kings anymore with his injury history). Watson's the best out there in PG FAs next to Knight and Duhon.
 
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captain bill said:
Clippers the other strong suiter? I can't imagine why, unless they plan on trading Cat to get Wells, which would certainly ruffle his (Mobley's) feathers. I also would be more than happy to see wells come cheap, his addition would make me feel much better about this team.

Also the original article mentions other FAs the Kings are looking at. I would be happy to see Dale Davis, Steven Hunter or Robert Traylor come cheap to play backup C or PF. Adds some defense, rebounding and a big body off the bench. Also nice to pair one of those guys with Ostertag, gives us some nice muscle for stretches off the bench. Also, Earl Watson is on that list. Nice, young guy. I'm thinking the Kings are looking at him to back up Mike if we trade Bobby, so probably we trade Bobby to get Wells and then sign Watson. Team looks like this:
Bibby/Watson
Peja/Corliss
Wells/Garcia/Martin
Thomas/(Hunter/Traylor/Davis)
Miller/Ostertag/Skinner

Looks a little better than last year.

Could you post the portion of the original article discussing the FAs the Kings are looking at? Not sure how they'd know, but would still be interesting.
 
"If they do know, they haven't made it clear to me, and maybe it doesn't include Mo and that's why I don't know."

Yet Petrie says he wants Evans in their future.

The positive talk about Mo overweighs the negative. Simple as that.

VF21:

Who's out there?

Free agents the Kings may be interested in:


Antoine Walker
Boston, power forward



Steven Hunter
Phoenix, center/forward



Dale Davis
Indiana, center/forward



Bonzi Wells
Memphis, forward/guard



Robert Traylor
Cleveland, power forward

Earl Watson
Memphis, point guard

Please, no Traylor or Walker. Jesus. The rest, fine and good.
 
I think that GP might be waiting for the Lakers to use the one time exemption on Brian Grant, which wouldn't make for a bad starting lineup if Bonzi is added to the team.
Bibby
Bonzi
Peja
Grant
Miller
 
Uh, Brian Grant? The guy is broken down and little like he was in Portland/early Miami days.

That's insane. Especially with his year with the Lakers.
 
Diabeticwonder said:
I think that GP might be waiting for the Lakers to use the one time exemption on Brian Grant, which wouldn't make for a bad starting lineup if Bonzi is added to the team.
Bibby
Bonzi
Peja
Grant
Miller

I'm afraid Grant is largely done with those knees. He's not even terribly effective anymore.

Traylor is obviously not much (beyond being a load), but I mentioend back early in TDOS that I thought he might actually have the skills to be a decent player in our system. Certainly not a starter, but could give you some spot/rotation minutes and help a little.
 
Traylor may be an option, but off the bench rather than starting. The starting PF spot may become to the Kings was 3d base has become to the Chicago Cubs.
 
captain bill said:
Clippers the other strong suiter? I can't imagine why, unless they plan on trading Cat to get Wells, which would certainly ruffle his (Mobley's) feathers. I also would be more than happy to see wells come cheap, his addition would make me feel much better about this team.

Bearing in mind that I can't cite a source -- other than a long-distance pal read something on some other forum -- Cuttino may be having second thoughts re: the Clippers. If that's the case, it could explain L.A.'s interest in Wells. It COULD also mean the rekindling of sign-and-trade talks with Denver.

Again, consider the source (or lack thereof). But there is a certain logic to it.
 
thedofd said:
Bearing in mind that I can't cite a source -- other than a long-distance pal read something on some other forum -- Cuttino may be having second thoughts re: the Clippers. If that's the case, it could explain L.A.'s interest in Wells. It COULD also mean the rekindling of sign-and-trade talks with Denver.

Again, consider the source (or lack thereof). But there is a certain logic to it.

That would be odd.

For all that people talk about how easy it is to break verbal deals, I can recall very few instances during free agency.
 
Bricklayer said:
That would be odd.

For all that people talk about how easy it is to break verbal deals, I can recall very few instances during free agency.

No argument. Then again, we are talking about the Clippers.

Honestly, I expect Mobley to be in L.A. But after what happened in Cleveland last year ...
 
Diabeticwonder said:
Traylor may be an option, but off the bench rather than starting. The starting PF spot may become to the Kings was 3d base has become to the Chicago Cubs.

Home of an all-star caliber player who is one of the best in the league at his position? With Traylor? What?
 
Bricklayer said:
I'm afraid Grant is largely done with those knees. He's not even terribly effective anymore.

Traylor is obviously not much (beyond being a load), but I mentioend back early in TDOS that I thought he might actually have the skills to be a decent player in our system. Certainly not a starter, but could give you some spot/rotation minutes and help a little.

Yeah, most of the PF/Cs the Kings "may" be looking at seem like bench players a la Ostertag. I think having a few big men on the bench, even if they're not the best, could do us a lot of good. Hunter and Davis look alright too- you can never have too many 7 footers on your team that can chip in some legit minutes.
 
captain bill said:
Yeah, most of the PF/Cs the Kings "may" be looking at seem like bench players a la Ostertag. I think having a few big men on the bench, even if they're not the best, could do us a lot of good. Hunter and Davis look alright too- you can never have too many 7 footers on your team that can chip in some legit minutes.

Hunter would be a nice backup, just because we so badly need shotblocking help. Davis is an antique though. See no point in that at all unless we have a time machine. We do not need to be signing any 35, 36, 37yr old FAs.
 
Bricklayer said:
Hunter would be a nice backup, just because we so badly need shotblocking help. Davis is an antique though. See no point in that at all unless we have a time machine. We do not need to be signing any 35, 36, 37yr old FAs.

I wonder if Hunter would even come to the kings unless they promised him a starting spot. If not why leave the suns un less we give him more money. I would love to nab him up though.
 
I am for either two things. If Bonzi is here I don't see a real need for Mo anymore, he is awesome but there are no minutes.

If we don't get Bonzi I say the neccessity of resinging Mo is much bigger. I hope he returns in that situation. Heck I'd like him to return either way but I don't want him or one of the other youngins' to rot on the bench.
 
Bricklayer said:
Hunter would be a nice backup, just because we so badly need shotblocking help. Davis is an antique though. See no point in that at all unless we have a time machine. We do not need to be signing any 35, 36, 37yr old FAs.

If we can sign him dirt cheap for say, one year with a team option for the second, I don't see why not, providing we check out our other options first. Can't do astoudingly worse than Ostertag this year, and there is always a chance we get something out of him. Agree with Slim- Hunter would be my first choice, but it might be hard to get him from the Suns. They seem to be playing it very smart this offseason, not coughing up the dough for a massive Joe Johnson deal so they can lock in all the lesser pieces such as Hunter and whatever FA help they decide to nab for the bench. Making a run at him might be tough.
 
SacTownKid said:
I am for either two things. If Bonzi is here I don't see a real need for Mo anymore, he is awesome but there are no minutes.

If we don't get Bonzi I say the neccessity of resinging Mo is much bigger. I hope he returns in that situation. Heck I'd like him to return either way but I don't want him or one of the other youngins' to rot on the bench.

Mo would still be a great back-up. Garcia and him could both back-up Peja too.
 
After reading the entire article, and reading between the lines, Mo is there as an insurance. If we don't get Bonzi then we will sign Mo. If we get Bonzi its goodbye Mo. Reading between the lines, its the end of Mo in Sacramento which means that we have a SG (Bonzi) lined up either via trade or using MLE.
 
captain bill said:
Home of an all-star caliber player who is one of the best in the league at his position? With Traylor? What?

Prior to this season (Aramis Ramirez) the Cubs have been historically weak for since Ron Santo played third base. Since Santo left, the Cubs have used about 90 different third baseman.
 
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