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thesanityannex
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Says the person who is a fan of the SOFTEST CENTER in the league.BMiller52 said:
The problem with Shareef
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DaMan
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This whole post has gotten outta hand, all i wanted to say was that in the last couple of games sar was becoming our number one opinion, and would be a better fit if he were a number 2 opinion behind a superstar player. This post was not meant to critialize, arguablely, our best player.
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playmaker0017
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BMiller52 said:
Wow, dude.
That was extremely uncalled for.
KP
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TSA, last I checked Brad was still a King. I Think that means you can still be both^.thesanityannex said:
Brads no softer than Reef, he's just the whitest man I've ever seen. Doesn't stop him from pushing himself as hard as he possibly can get back on D, even though he can't. Doesn't stop him from trying to rotate or grab that rebound even when he can't... Brad gives good effort, night in and night out. Unathletic... Slow... yes, but I wouldn't go so far as to call him the softest center in the league.
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playmaker0017
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KP said:
Oh, yes he is.
That may have been his old MO, but it doesn't really hold right now. He's not trying. He's not even fouling. He's doing nothing. At least in my opinion he isn't.
I think he's frustrated with the penetration being given up right now ... and I don't blame him. He looks angry and lost.
You might not - but I know I sure would.
Padrino
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DaMan said:
while i think you mean 'option,' i agree with what you're saying. let's get hypothetical, cuz i dig being hypothetical. i've always been pretty open about my feelings on peja, so i will continue down that line of thinking. had my wishes come true, then it would have been peja that was traded rather than webber. now, imagine further that we had still picked up bonzi wells and SAR in the offseason. i like the idea of webber staying on the high post where he is at his best these days, and SAR/wells playing in the post, complementing webber's game properly. that's the kind of situation that SAR would really thrive in. had we picked up value in my imagined peja trade, that team would be f'ing deadly. since i'm only playing the what-could-have-been game, does this line up intrigue anybody except me (webber haters...don't comment):
starting unit:
miller
webber
rahim
wells
bibby
bench (partial):
al harrington (possible return in peja trade??)
house (had we resigned him, like we should have)
songaila (had we been able to resign him)
martin
garcia
obviously, not a perfect lineup. still a whole lot of defensive issues, but the superstar remains, as does his heart. the team chemistry would be better, i'm sure. SAR would be a great 2nd option behind a superstar like webber (or insert KG, or whatever dominant big man you want). we have no legitimate 3-pt threat, but this doesn't bother me as much as it bothers a lot of other kings fans. i envision a team that remembers how to cut to the basket. i envision a team that scores 50 in the paint nightly. the bench is certainly improved with this lineup, and you know what, this lineup seems likely to me. there really was no point to this post, so please, lets not flame me for living in the webber-era that i loved so much. but, i think this lineup is something that legitimately "could-have-been," and i think it's much better than 10-15. there's no hindsight in this lineup, either. it's just better constructed, if still flawed in some areas.
DaMan
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pretty much agree with every thing you said, but i was thinking about more of the lines of a superstar guard to play along shareef. And yea this tread is useless. U see i am a sar fan and I just wanted to state my opinion on him but it has got outta hand.Padrino said:
And P.S. I am a bad speller and will must likely be killing alot more words In the future
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jacobdrj
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DaMan said:He is not one to lead a team and as the more games pass by he is becoming our go to player. From looking at past seasons this would be a bad thing. I belived there are two reasons why shareef has not gone to the playoffs, One is that not one team in his career has provided him with the talent to succed in the nba or, and I firmly belive this, that sar is more suited playing with a star player in this Leauge. He could be the Yao to a team's T-mac, a Lewis to an Allen, a Pippen to a MJ. Espn made a story about shareef being a great 2 opinion to a star player when he got traded to portland.
Some thought that sar would be able to be a webber but that his failed for many reasons. One webber (along with Divac) had the talent to hide everyones weaknesses and also got his points off the pinceton offence (which really showed how great of a player that webber was), Which sar has proved to do neither of does things.
But there were others that thought sar was more suitable to becoming the 3,4 and even the 5 opinion on this team, but he has proved that u can't hold a good scorer down and is now becoming our go to guy, which is a bad thing. And personaly i thought that would occur anyway because with a starting linep up of bibby, peja, Wells, sar, and Brad he was our best player and nobody else was steping up so sar take avgtange.
But all i am saying is if u want to break this so called "Sar curse" we bring in a real go to player, (Paul Pirece!!!) and there sar would become our second opinion or we just trade him ( And to a good team please, he deserves it he's a good guy). But when looking at this sar curse every team that traded expect for the grizz, got worst instead of better, so i think we should keep him
What can I say other than I agree 100%
LPKingsFan
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playmaker0017 said:
I think this pretty much sums it up. And from someone who's followed the Kings for years, and not SAR, I see things differently. I tend to favor Miller over SAR because I've seen what the Kings are capable of doing with Miller. And I have nothing against what SAR has brought to the Kings. It is just aggravating because the team had obvious weaknesses over the summer, and instead of addressing them, Petrie went out and got someone who, while exceptionally talented, only exacerbated them.
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playmaker0017
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KP said:
Well, I guess I just don't know how to respond to this.
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thesanityannex
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Has Brad been winning lately???BMiller52 said:
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thesanityannex
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You can still be both, but you have to be able to admit each players weakness, or in Brad's case weaknessess. So if Brad isn't the softest center, who is???KP said:
LPKingsFan
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thesanityannex said:
I think it's more important to realize the weaknesses of the unit as a whole, and also how different players' strengths and weaknesses play off each other. We've (those that paid attention) how Brad can play when around guys like Oakley, Artest, etc. Surrounded by this team of softies, it's no wonder he looks like the softest in the NBA (which he isn't).
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thesanityannex
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He is the softest. When around Artest, Oakley etc. they hide his weakness. The guy is as soft as they come, and he whines. How can you argue that?LPKingsFan said:
LPKingsFan
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Because I watched him before he came here, and even since he's been here he hasn't always been like that. Don't let your current distaste blind you.
