The Navy is Getting on my Nerves...(Rant)

SLAB

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**Okay, I'm warning everybody, this is nothing but a long rant...Most everything quoted is paraphrased, but he may as well said what I wrote...He just said them in a "nicer" way**

Okay, I am getting really sick of the Navy...

How many times/ways can you tell a recruiter "NO" before they finally realize that you aren't joining...

Here's the story...

Back in school last year I took the ASVAB test, not knowing anything about it, and only taking it because it got me out of class...Well, I proceed to do top 15% in the nation on this stupid test, and get calls from the Army/Navy/Marines/FBI/CIA asking me to enlist in their programs. Well, the Army/Marines/CIA/FBI all listened to the "Im not interested," but the Navy will not leave me alone...

About a year ago, a recruiter called me, I said no, he set up a meeting anyways, and I said no at the meeting. He knew I wasn't going to say yes, and he hasnt bothered me since.

About a month ago, however, a new recruiter called me...And this guy doesn't give up. For EVERY excuse I come up with to say no, he spins off some "The Navy is great" explanation, and tells me a benefit, and says "Now that's a good thing, right?" of couse I say "Yes..." and he goes on, and on, and on, and on...So, he decides to set me up for a meeting. I go in, and he tells me all the good things, but this guy just gets on my nerves...Here's some of the things he's done to anger me.

Him--"So, will your parents completly pay for you to go to college?"
Me--"No."
Him--"Why?"
Me--"Because it's to expensive"
Him--"So are you and your parents as close as you say you are?"

WTF is that!?!? That's just messed...Then there's this.

He draws me two timelines...One is if I join the Navy, one is if I don't.

If I join the Navy, I go to basic training, get done, and goto school. And get paid for it. And everything will be great.

If I don't go into the Navy...I'll work/goto school for about a year before my parents get sick of me and decide to kick me out. There will then be as year long period where I don't go to school because I gotta save money to get my apartment...After that year, I'll go back to school, but only parttime, because I gotta work long hours to pay for my apartment, and then it will take like 8 years, or possible never to get my degree, and eventually my credentials.

Ok, I get back from the meeting, and he calls me tonight...I flat out say.

"You know, I don't want to do something as big as this, if my entire heart's not into it...I want to be 100% sure of it if Im going to do this."

You'd think he'd give up...Nope.

"Well, lets just get your social security card, birth certificate, and diploma, then we can get you down for your physical, and then you can pick the job you want, then well enlist you in the delayed deployment program."

I'm all: "WOAH WOAH!!! Hold it! I'm not dong this!

...Conclusion? We're having another meeting Friday...yay for me.

O yea, and somehow he turned..."My parents think the benefits are nice"

into "My parents are totally supporting me joining the Navy"

Which they aren't....

Sorry for the rant, I just had to get this off my chest....
 
SLAB...

the same thing happened to me... they call me ALL the time, especially during my whole senior year, and i took the ASVAB test... andn ow that im graduated, they STILL call me...

blah blah blah yea they asked me stupid questions, i told them no a million times... i know how ya feelin =(
 
IT sucks so bad!

And for those interested, I'm making a replica of the timelines on paint, and will put the pic up in a sec...

AHH, it feels go to finally get this off my chest!
 
This is coming from someone who never experienced any recruitment pressure, but can't you just refuse to set up appointments with these guys?

I have got phone calls in the past for Army or whatever, but I'm exempt for health reasons, and telling them that always seems to end the conversation real quick.
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Eh, Imageshack's not working, so you'll all have to wait until later to see his masterful timelines...

O and one more thing he said to me, here's my life if I go to school...

8 Hours = School
8 Hours = Sleeping
6 Hours = Working
1 Hour = Eating

"That only leaves you with one hour a day to yourself, aren't you a social person?"

Grr...He's underestimating my parents help, AND the fact I have a scholarship to help me out.
 
Alacron said:
This is coming from someone who never experienced any recruitment pressure, but can't you just refuse to set up appointments with these guys?

I have got phone calls in the past for Army or whatever, but I'm exempt for health reasons, and telling them that always seems to end the conversation real quick.
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He already knows I'm healthy, unfortunatly.

I'll just have my mom deal with it...When he calls Friday, she'll answer and say...

"We are not interested, and my son is just to polite to say no, and hang up!"

CLICK!

You won't listen to me, listen to an angered mother, buddy.
 
A Life Lesson....

Take it from an old fart.....

It took me many years to learn what you are learning through this experience. That is, it is not rude to say, "No, thank you!" Too many times I've listened patiently as I couldn't get a word in, even though I knew I wasn't interested in whatever was being asked or sold. I finally decided about ten years ago that these people prey on your willingness to be polite and they are not worth getting upset over. I just say, "I'm not interested, thank you!" and hang up the phone or close the door.

Many years ago I was at dinner with a woman who complained to me that her food was undercooked. When I suggested she send it back, she was mortified. I summoned the waiter and politely explained the problem. He was quick to handle it no problem. She was stunned that it was so easy and I explained to her that it is possible to stand up for yourself in most circumstances without getting loud or rude.

An old axiom states, "Never mistake kindness for weakness!" You can stand up for your interests in an appropriate way and increase your assertiveness as necessary. You may not always win the argument, but trust me when I say you will impress many many people by handling these situations with dignity and class.

When the recruiter calls, tell him you are not interested and ask that he not call again. When he starts to try talking again, interrupt and say, "I don't want to hear from you again. If I do, I'll be in contact with your supervisor." Then disconnect.

If the guy is a real jerk and continues to bother you, try this.

If he calls again, tell him the call is being recorded and again state, "Please don't call me again! Do I need to get a restraining order? If you call again, I'll contact the police and have you prosecuted for "annoying harassing calls!" and disconnect. Keep in mind that in order to record a call, you must tell the person you're recording it. (You probably don't really need to record it anyway)
 
I totally agree with the above..you can politely say no thankyou...My husband is in the Air Force and luckily his uncle is a recruiter so he didn't have to deal with the crazies. Recruiters receive awards and recognition by the number of people they sign up so its no wonder this guy is pursuing you so hard..if he feels he can wear you down he will keep trying...you HAVE GOT TO tell him NO point blank and let him know that you will never change your mind, you can't let him think that you may be interested by setting up appointments with him...JUST SAY NO!!!
 
My brother has been in the Navy for 12 years, but that was his choice. And that is what this recruiter has to realize! It is not right for him to try to coax you into doing something as serious and life-changing as joining the military if it's not in your heart to do so. But like others have said, he's just trying to be as successful as possible in his job. For awhile I had a National Guard recruiter calling me all the time as well. I had no interest in joining, but he was such a good recruiter that he came close to influencing me.
 
Oddly I never had anybody try to recruit me, and that with my extended family being full of military. Think my contrarian rep must have preceded me even back then -- far more trouble than I was worth. :)
 
Mr. S£im Citrus said:
You should stop living in denial and just say yes.

Sorry my dear Slim, but I've got to disagree. I've heard too many stories from my brother about AWOLs because people got in over their heads. The military is definitely a wonderful opportunity that many people should take, but only if one is truly interested. By all means listen to the recruiter and consider, but no one should join out of someone else's wants.
 
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That was a joke; I didn't use a smiley because making it blatantly obvious that I was joking would have ruined my joke.
 
"...Conclusion? We're having another meeting Friday...yay for me."

Stop making appointments and stop going to them.
I agree with tubiscus above.
 
Mr. S£im Citrus said:
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That was a joke; I didn't use a smiley because making it blatantly obvious that I was joking would have ruined my joke.

And therein lies the confusion. Thanks for clearing that up.
 
Hey Slab. Just hang up without saying anything.


Other than that, I think you should enlist in the United States Marines. They need a few good men.
 
SLAB - Why do you keep going to the appointments? Why do you keep talking to the guy?

You're sending mixed signals, IMHO.

Next time he calls, don't say something like you're not sure. Tell him you're not interested and you're not going to talk to him anymore. If he calls again, hang up.
 
He's gonna call Friday before the appointment that I apparently said yes to, and Im just gonna say...

"You know, Im not ganna waste your time, Im not interested."

Then hang up.
 
It's almost over, at least for now.

My mom just said "CALL THEM AND SAY WE ARE NOT INTERESTED.."

So I called, Chris wasn't there, so I described everything to a new guy (Who was also on a "We can build you life" rant), and said "we are just not interested, I've just been to nice to say no, but I'm just wasting your time..."

Well, Im gonna get one more call from Chris, because it would be respecttful or something liek that.

Hopefully it'll just be a "Thank you for your time" instead of "The Navy will make everything better" call.
 
i had the same stupid problem, but from the marines and it really only lasted one phone call. he did ask me a million questions and tried to make it seem that anything i choose to do in life will be the wrong thing. ...like some are saying, just straight up tell him off.
 
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Okay, let me get this straight:

Some of you signed up for the military aptitude test and now you're upset because the military is following up?

If you signed up for the test, then you indicated to them you were interested. If you were just signing up to get out of class, shame on you. How is the recruiter supposed to know you weren't being honest?

As far as the ongoing saga stuff goes, I'm pretty sure if you're clear about your decision NOT to join, they don't keep calling. If, however, you are ambiguous then they're doing their job if they call more than once. If you agree to an appointment, you're the one who's continuing the contact.

Sorry, but if you took the test under false premises you have yourselves to blame. At least be honest with the recruiter and admit it. "Dude, I only took the test to get out of class."
 
I'm not suprised they're going after you so hardcore. Being in the top 15% of that test makes you a prize commodity for them, since the Navy (like the Air Force) is very tech heavy in it's operational needs.

All branches of the military have stepped up their recruiting BIG TIME in the past 2 years, since they've reached an all time low in recruiting quotas. Gee, I wonder why...
 
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