The forgotten man:

bajaden

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Yep, I'm talking about Tyler Honeycutt. I don't think he's on anyone's radar at the moment. He's merely an afterthought. Just sort of there! The thing is, I think he can be more than that. On what do I base my judgement? Well, thats where the rub comes in. He's played one year in the NBA, and thats using the word "Played", loosely. There's simply nothing to go on in the 15 games he managed to get on the floor.

So all I can do to make my case is go back to his two years at UCLA. Even those two years are somewhat of a mixed bag. But, he showed enough to warrant being picked at the top of the second round. So lets cover the bad first. Number one is that he probably weighed the same amount as Kevin Martin when he came out, and he's two inches taller. Judging from what I saw at this years summer league, I suspect he's put on a few pounds. I don't think I saw him once without food in his hands.

Number two, would be his inconsistent shot. Especially in his second year. Ironicly, he actually shot the ball better from beyond the arc, than he did closer to the basket. I suspect this had something to do with his lack of muscle and weight. He also didn't shot a high percentage coming off screens his second year. His freshman year, he shot the ball much better overall. I think his second year fall off had to do with getting more attention, and, being asked to do more offensively.

2009/10: 27.7 MPG - 7.2 PPG - 49.6% FGP - 6.5 RPG - 2.7 APG - 1.2 SPG - 1.2 BPG - 34.5% 3PP - 60% FTP

2010/11: 35 MPG - 12.8 PPG - 40.6% FGP - 7.2 RPG - 2.8 APG - 0.9 SPG - 2.0 BPG - 36.2% 3PP - 73.6% FTP


As you can see, his 3 pt percentage actually went up in his sophmore year while his overall percentage went down. Most of his three's were spot up with his feet set, while the rest of his shots were while moving with the ball, driving the lane, and coming off screens. So if he's worked on his shot, and put on some muscle, he could be in a position to make a case for being in the rotation. Maybe even compete for the starting spot, but thats a bit of a reach.

The rest of his game is pretty solid. He led the PAC 12 in blocked shots at his position, and possibly overall. I haven't looked it up. He's a very good passer, and was a very feisty defender in college. He's also a very good athlete, with excellent height and length for the SF position. He's never been a player that demanded the ball, and played very unselfishly at UCLA. On paper, he's exactly what were looking for in a SF.

What he lacks is experience, and its a shame he didn't get more last season. But he does know the ropes now, and has had plenty of time to work on the parts of his game that need improving. So I won't be surprised if he makes a significant splash in training camp. He has the rep of being a hard worker. So we'll see. I still have high hopes for him!
 
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It's too bad we didn't get to see him play in the Summer League. It would of been good for him to get some more playing time but unfortunately he got injured. I have a feeling he's going to be our next Donte Greene...
 
It's too bad we didn't get to see him play in the Summer League. It would of been good for him to get some more playing time but unfortunately he got injured. I have a feeling he's going to be our next Donte Greene...

In the sense that he might be treated the same way as Donte in regards to playing time, its hard to say. Different coach, so who knows. However, he's an entirely different kind of player than Donte was coming out of college. He's a much better passer, ballhandler, and even overall shooter. Donte did nothing at Syracuse but chuck up 3 pointers. I might add, that Donte had a rep of not putting in the work. Honeycutt is known for working on his game. I really don't like comparing one player to the other. Especially when they're such different players.

But your right, Honeycutt's lack of experience is going to be a factor. Honeycutt wasn't my first choice in the second round. Parsons was. But who knows how much playing time he would have gotten with us. Turns out he ended up being the starting SF for Houston by years end. I think Honeycutt is capable of duplicating Parsons overall stats. What solidified the SF spot for Parsons was his abiltiy to play defense. And defense is something I think Honeycutt can be very good at. He just needs to get on the court and get some experience.
 
Dig his skill set, 3s and D with some passing for good measure. If he can put on some lbs he can be a great glue guy for us. I was (and still am) more excited about him than Jimmer.

Hopefully he gets some PT this season! If he shows something in limited minutes I'm sure he'll get more time.
 
Last year he was in the position Jimmer will be in this year. He had Salmons, Outlaw and Garcia in front of him in the rotation. By year's end, you could add Tyreke and Terrence Williams in as well. Just no minutes to be had. Unfortunately, things aren't any better this year. He has Tyreke, Salmons, Outlaw, Garcia, and Johnson who are all ahead of him in the rotation at the 3. Just no minutes left.
 
Last year he was in the position Jimmer will be in this year. He had Salmons, Outlaw and Garcia in front of him in the rotation. By year's end, you could add Tyreke and Terrence Williams in as well. Just no minutes to be had. Unfortunately, things aren't any better this year. He has Tyreke, Salmons, Outlaw, Garcia, and Johnson who are all ahead of him in the rotation at the 3. Just no minutes left.

I really doubt that Tyreke will get many minutes at the three. The bottom line is, you have to prove your better than everyone else. I don't think Garcia is a factor, especially if Honeycutt starts to show something. I doubt the Kings are going to waste minutes on a player in his last year, if they have a young player sitting there with a future. To my mind, his only competition is Johnson and Outlaw. Prove your better than one of those guys, and you'll get minutes. Salmons is a SG to me, and has always been a SG that can play some minutes at SF. But he's no Iggy. Frankly, I'm tired of 6'6" SF's.
 
Honeycutt reminded me of a very youthful Doug Christie, both physically and with his game. He has a nice outside shot, long arms with a bit of defensive tenacity, along with a pretty surprising passing repertoire. He looks to need a few more years of seasoning to put it all together, and as with Doug (who bounced around to several teams before landing on a contender as a defensive contributor a la Thabo Sefalosha) I think he could play a pivotal role for a contender in his prime if development goes according to his ceiling (and he is willing to put in the work).

Unfortunately, a lot of things have to go right for such development to take place, and the resources required for such maturation do not appear to be in place in Sacramento currently. I do like his length, shooting, and passing ability, and I will be keeping an eye on his development as he looks to be a potential wing weapon going forward.
 
Honeycutt reminded me of a very youthful Doug Christie, both physically and with his game. He has a nice outside shot, long arms with a bit of defensive tenacity, along with a pretty surprising passing repertoire. He looks to need a few more years of seasoning to put it all together, and as with Doug (who bounced around to several teams before landing on a contender as a defensive contributor a la Thabo Sefalosha) I think he could play a pivotal role for a contender in his prime if development goes according to his ceiling (and he is willing to put in the work).

Unfortunately, a lot of things have to go right for such development to take place, and the resources required for such maturation do not appear to be in place in Sacramento currently. I do like his length, shooting, and passing ability, and I will be keeping an eye on his development as he looks to be a potential wing weapon going forward.

You appear to see him in the same light that I do. A Doug Christie type of role player. First and foremost, play good defense. Hit the open shot, and make a nice pass here and there. I forgot to mention, that he was also a good rebounder in college despite his slight build.
 
Honeycutt has considerably more offensive potential than Christie. His skills allow him to be very versatile. But he has a loooooong ways to go before he matches the toughness of Christie. To me, it's all about consistency, strength, and toughness when it comes to Honeycutt. I want to see him become a lot more scrappy on the floor. He's got a lot of competition at the position, so he better be prepared to go to war when training camp opens.
 
He definitely has the tools to be everything the team needs from a SF, but I'm not hoping for anything but staying healthy enough to get PT in the D league. Hopefully by the end of the year he can take Garcia's spot at the end of the bench, and maybe flash some hustle and D.

Then in year 3 he can take Outlaw's backup SF minutes, and give the team a reason to sign him to a cheap extension as a key roleplayer on a young playoff team.
 
In his day Christie was capable of a drive and dunk if his defender turned his head. Plus he was hard nosed and had a great uppercut, just ask Rick Fox:)

If Honeycutt has a little DC in him he will see playing time. Can he defend big two guards like Kobe? If he can he could be a great situational defender.

KB
 
the talents there. I doubt we harness it though. He'll end up like Hassan with someone else taking a punt on him
 
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