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True, although CP hit two huge shots tonight, that 3, and that layup-ish floater in the lane so I'd say he brought it down the stretch tonight. But, yeah, he was absolutely silent in the second quarter when the Bucks dominated. Booker just can't turn it over there at the end, but it happens. Offensively, he has been really impressive this series. I've been more enthralled these past two games than I thought it would be, and Booker is a big reason for that
Everyone has learned from kobe according to espn
Only four franchises have made two or more NBA Finals appearances, without winning at least one NBA Championship (Nets, Magic, Suns, Jazz).
No NBA franchise has made three or more NBA Finals appearances, without winning at least one NBA Championship.
No NBA franchise has made three or more NBA Finals appearances, without winning at least one NBA Championship.
iowamcnabb
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That was awesome. Everyone outside of Phoenix should be rooting for the Bucks. Giannis is as good a role model as there is in the NBA and he is fun to watch.
I don't know what "should" has to do with it: I've got no motivation to root for either one of these teams... I like to see great players achieve greatness so, I guess, if you put a gun to my head, I'd root for the great player that is least likely to ever get back to the Finals, in his career. That would be Chris Paul.
EDIT - On the other hand, Devin Booker annoys me. In fact, all of the players who have been "blessed" by the "Mamba Mentality" annoy me. And rooting for Chris Paul to win means rooting for him to win, too, so I'm out on that.
Tetsujin
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Ngl, I thought the same thing watching the camera pan over the crowd.
This is a deep cut, but you may have to be a hip-hop head to appreciate it:
kingsboi
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it's all about the papes for Jrue
Remember the dumbass media saying he’s leaving Milwaukee than he signs the extension. He’s anti lebron and these other clown stars from this let’s get cheap rings era
CP pushing a defenseless player in mid air is somehow a common foul nba is a joke
steelevt
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At full speed it didn’t look that bad but could have ended up bad. Or one of those fouls where if it was on a flopper who sold it, they would have reviewed it and made it a flagrant.
Well that’s the point as well these clown officials judge flagrants on how the player reacts. Most times plays land on there feet than decide we’ll let me fall now and get the flagrant
I'm over here wilding at the the way "anti-LeBron" has become an insult. Dude is, at worst... at worst... the fifth-best player of all-time. And even the majority of his most strident haters will stipulate that he's in the Top Three. The only player ever to lead three different franchises to an NBA Championship. Barring a career-ending injury, he's going to become only the second player with 20,000+ points and 10,000+ assists (Chris Paul is going to beat him, because he's closer to 20K points than LeBron is to 10K assists), and the first player ever to have 10,000+ assists and 10,000+ rebounds. AND he's doing even more impressive things, off the court... why should anybody take pride in being "anti-LeBron"?
Not only that but, in the last ten years, I've seen fans praise Derrick Rose, Kevin Durant, Kawhi Leonard, Russell Westbrook and, most recently, Damian Lillard, all for being "anti-LeBron." And the fans turned on each and every one of them, once they figured out that being the fan favorite who stays and loses isn't that hotness, after all. And, if the Bucks somehow choke this series, and don't make it back to the Finals next year, and Antetokounmpo gets frustrated and wants to leave, y'all will turn on him, too.
Tetsujin
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More than anything, it feels like people hate on Lebron for being "too nice" or something. They deify MJ and Kobe for being super-selfish assholes (even though two of the best plays of MJ's career were him passing the ball to Paxson and Kerr) who no one else really wanted to play with and then hate on Lebron for being a guy that other stars gravitate to.
Dan Gilbert is a moronic buffoon who hasn't held onto a GM for longer than five years since taking over the Cavs and has constantly had issues building a competent roster around the greatest player of his generation and yet Lebron is the one who got his jersey set on fire when he decided that he wanted to win a couple of 'ships, something that definitely wouldn't happen in Cleveland.
In that regard at least, the Giannis situation is a different beast than the young Bron era, with the Bucks being super aggressive in building a strong supporting cast around Giannis, even if they never went out and grabbed a huge name (though you could argue that Middleton is a great player who's somehow become underrated thanks to playing next to an entirely unique beast).
EDIT: Plus people acting like Lebron invented moving franchises to get a ring is always hilarious to me. The entire mystique of the Lakers can largely be reduced to Wilt and Kareem AND Shaq all deciding to move to LA after their respective franchises all mostly failed to get over the hump. Okay, Wilt mostly moved to LA to bang as many chicks as possible.
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iowamcnabb
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the best I can come up with is Baseball pants, a traditional African top and Mrs. Doubfire’s glasses.
Tetsujin
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Anti lebron isn’t saying that lebron isn’t good basically means the anti lebron guy has loyalty, wants to compete, and doesn’t stack his team and ring chase in his prime
lol lebron basically invented cheap rings and colluding with guys years before to team up. Nothin close to what Shaq did and can’t even compare him to the Giannis situation either. Ok Cleveland failed him but why did he leave Miami as soon as he saw it was gonna be hard again? Cause he had a new big 3 in Cleveland
whozit
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I don't like LeBron, "the persona" but to each their own. LeBron, the player, is exceptional. Teams collude, why shouldn't players. As a fan I don't like it but of course it would be a different story if it was to the benefit of my team. Teams treat players as currency why shouldn't the players view the teams as exchanges?
I don't even mind it, so much, when they're talking about players who are/were actually LeBron James' peers. The part that makes me roll my eyes is when they look to the past and extrapolate what those guys would have done, if the rules regarding player movement and free agency were the same then as they are, now. Like, you can't possibly know that, and they can't, either. But, they get to "win" forever, for not doing something that they couldn't do, anyway. Those guys get retroactive extra credit for not doing something that they weren't allowed to do, in the first place.
Except that
- Not only is "loyalty" completely overrated, it's the single-most ridiculous concept that's ever been invented in team sports. What you call "loyalty" is just a way of selling professional athletes a bill of goods: making them feel warm and fuzzy about voluntarily surrendering their power and agency.
- Like I've said before, those teams were "stacked" because LeBron was on them: Dwyane Wade and Chris Bosh ain't nobody's "stacked" team. Kyrie Irving and Kevin Love ain't nobody's "stacked" team. And Anthony Davis, and a bunch of dudes from L.A. Fitness damned sure ain't nobody's "stacked" team. James made them "stacked" teams, not the other way around.
- You're not even being honest with yourself about your so-called objection to "stacked" teams. What you really mean is that you hate it when the players have the power. Because, let's call it what it is: if the guys who wears suits, instead of jerseys, are the ones who get the credit for getting players on the team, you don't have boo to say about "stacked" teams... And I can't relate to that.
kingsboi
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I mean the look on that kids face behind him says it all really
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