Suns, Hornets talking Jackson deal

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http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=1972196

Friday, January 21, 2005


Hornets likely will get Jacobsen, Lampe, Vroman



By Marc Stein
ESPN.com
The Phoenix Suns are closing in on the acquisition of disgruntled New Orleans swingman Jim Jackson, league sources told ESPN.com.


The trade for Jackson, expected to be finalized later Friday, would likely send three Suns reserves -- Casey Jacobsen, Maciej Lampe and Jackson Vroman -- to the Hornets. Jackson has has refused to report to New Orleans since he was traded by Houston for David Wesley just after Christmas.

The move has multiple benefits for Phoenix, which started the season 31-4 in spite of its serious depth shortage. Jackson, 34, would immediately give the Suns a veteran scoring option off the bench and also give coach Mike D'Antoni a ready-made replacement for Joe Johnson if the Suns can convince Philadelphia to part with center Samuel Dalembert in a swap for Johnson.

New Orleans, meanwhile, jumped at the opportunity to acquire three young players for Jackson, who made it clear that he was prepared to forfeit his salary (roughly $27,500 per game) for the rest of the season before he'd ever play a game for the Hornets.

Marc Stein is the senior NBA writer for ESPN.com. To e-mail him, click here. Also, click here to send a question for possible use on ESPNEWS.
 
Bballkingsrock

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I hate to say this but Phoenix.................got the better end of the deal. Jim is a all-round solid player. He will give u a little bit of everything. The good news is they lost their best 3 pointer player who is Casey. He hurt us in that game with a lot of 3's.
 
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i'm not sure that this is such a great deal for phoenix. they are a horribly shallow team to begin with, as far as the bench goes, and giving up 3 young role-players for one disgruntled, middle-aged swingman is the answer? i love jimmy jackson, and i appreciate the contribution he gave sacramneto while he was here, but, realistically, is this trade doing mroe harm than good? or i'm i the only one with this line of thinking?
 
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Bricklayer said:
That would be really unfortunate on any number of fronts.
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Per 48 minutes Jacobson and Jackson are similiar.

I find it unfortunate that you can pout your way out of a city in todays NBA.
 
SacTownKid

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What little bench they have they would be trading away. Marion, Amare, and Nash are going to be worn out by playoff time. Good thing the Kings have put together a solid bench or the same thing would've happended to Sac once again.
 
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I'm with Padrino on this. A mid-season trade that depletes your team's bench for the luxury of a player on the downside of his career (no matter how much I respect JJ and the job he did for us) to come off the bench seems, at least on the face of it, to be risky. And if the Philly trade goes through won't that put JJ in the starting lineup negating the "off the bench" scorer you traded for? I don't know enough about the Suns to give a solid yea or nay but it seems, again, risky at best.
 
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Lamar_Odom said:
Per 48 minutes is nothing but a projection. It hardly means anything in real time.
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Of course.
Jacobson is a fairly proven player that really isn't that far behind JJ, given more minutes I think you would find Jacobson's stats becoming similar to JJ.
The Hornets really did well with this trade.
 
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If the Suns get Dalembert this year too, it means that Jim Jackson indirectly screwed you guys as far as your Pacific Div hopes go. Nash won't be out forever and I like what a vet like JJ gives them over the pieces for which he was traded.
 
HndsmCelt

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its a crap shoot for a championship. IF all the piecese hold toghter they will be very competive this season, but will have sacrificed theri future for it. Locked into Nash's huge contract as he ages and with little help comming from the draft they wil l be ahrd pressed to add young tallent and will have to ride the vets into the ground. But if ticket sales are slumping this is a fix, nice showing this year will do wonders for next season.
 
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Gargamel said:
If the Suns get Dalembert this year too, it means that Jim Jackson indirectly screwed you guys as far as your Pacific Div hopes go. Nash won't be out forever and I like what a vet like JJ gives them over the pieces for which he was traded.
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SD is a career 6 pt. 6 rb guy, who is having a hard year this year. This would hardly screw us over for a P Div title.
Frankly I like the Suns making these changes. They were 30-4, before Nash's injury and these moves. Do you really expect them to improve?
 
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HndsmCelt said:
its a crap shoot for a championship. IF all the piecese hold toghter they will be very competive this season, but will have sacrificed theri future for it.
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I think they take that chance. They've had at least 3 title caliber teams in their history (counting the 76 squad) -- all ended up winning jack. If they had just won that Alcindor coin flip, they wouldn't be having this mid-ring crisis.
 
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Heuge said:
SD is a career 6 pt. 6 rb guy, who is having a hard year this year. This would hardly screw us over for a P Div title.
Frankly I like the Suns making these changes. They were 30-4, before Nash's injury and these moves. Do you really expect them to improve?
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Dalembert is a big off the bench, proven to rebound and block shots at a nice clip given decent minutes. Add him to veteran-ready JJ and I think it's a bonus for Phoenix considering what they give up.
 
HndsmCelt

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Gargamel said:
I think they take that chance. They've had at least 3 title caliber teams in their history (counting the 76 squad) -- all ended up winning jack. If they had just won that Alcindor coin flip, they wouldn't be having this mid-ring crisis.
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While I tend to agree with you, this does show that BOTH of are gamblers willing to stake the future of a franchise on what could arguably be one great season.
 
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HndsmCelt said:
its a crap shoot for a championship. IF all the piecese hold toghter they will be very competive this season, but will have sacrificed theri future for it. Locked into Nash's huge contract as he ages and with little help comming from the draft they wil l be ahrd pressed to add young tallent and will have to ride the vets into the ground. But if ticket sales are slumping this is a fix, nice showing this year will do wonders for next season.
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I don't think Jackobson and change would have lots to say about the future of the Suns.
 
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Jim Jackson traded to Suns

I just read that Jim Jackson was traded to the Suns. This has to be good for the Kings. He'll disrupt this team like he has all teams he has played for. Kings will definately take over the Pacific division now!!
 
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thenbakings said:
I just read that Jim Jackson was traded to the Suns. This has to be good for the Kings. He'll disrupt this team like he has all teams he has played for. Kings will definately take over the Pacific division now!!
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I SERIOUSLY doubt it. Not the Kings taking over the Pacific division part, but rather that he will disrupt the Suns like he has supposedly done with every other team he's been with...emphasis on SUPPOSEDLY.
 
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Gargamel said:
Dalembert is a big off the bench, proven to rebound and block shots at a nice clip given decent minutes. Add him to veteran-ready JJ and I think it's a bonus for Phoenix considering what they give up.
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Joe Johnson is one of the more versitial guards in the league. I think adding the SD trade hurts the good thing they have going.
 
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