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And here we are, first day of Olympic Trials for Artistic Women’s Gymnastics.

Blakely’s injury has thrown a rather large wrench into this process as she had become a favorite to make the team in recent weeks. Best wishes to her speedy recovery.

But we trudge on toward building the team for Paris. By Sunday night, we’ll have our 2024 Team USA.

Tier List as of now:

Already on the Plane to Paris:
Simone Biles

At the Boarding Gate:
Shi Jones, Suni Lee

Fighting to Get Through Airport Security:
Jade Carey, Kayla DiCello, Jordan Chiles

Rushing Through Traffic as the Plane Boards:
Leanne Wong, Joscelyn Roberson

Still Packing a Suitcase as the Plane Boards:
Hezley Rivera, Tiana Sumanasekera, Kaliya Lincoln

Browsing for Flights to LA:
Dulcy Caylor, Eveylynn Lowe, Zoey Momolo, Simone Rose
 
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DiCello taken off the mat in a wheelchair. Fell on vault in the first event of the night.

Being evaluated, but not looking good.

Lee, DiCello’s best friend, saved herself from a scary fall on vault directly after DiCello was taken into the back for evaluation.

Jones scratched on vault due to an injury in warm-ups.

In short, trials started a hot mess.

Outside Biles who nailed her bars routine.
 
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After Night 1:

Your top three are Biles, Chiles, and Lee with Carey a close fourth. Add in Jones (who only competed on bars tonight due to injury) and, if things hold as they are now on Sunday night, I’m betting that’s your Team USA for Paris.

See you Sunday.

You Were Warned. Not too late to turn back.

Still here? All right, let’s get nerdy.

Jones had an absolutely iron-willed gut-check performance, competing with a fresh leg injury, pulling off one of the best bars routines of the night as her only event to officially qualify for consideration by the committee. By rule, an athlete has to compete in at least one event at trials to be named to the team, and cannot petition to be considered despite missing the event due to injury. Jones just showed a champion’s heart and if she wasn’t already a lock for the team, she has to be now.

DiCello on the other hand, is likely done. While she’s officially eligible because she did score on her failed vault, she was already rather borderline without a big showing at Trials. She really needed a fifth or higher placement if not third or even second to secure her spot. Unless she miraculously comes back from the injury that had her carted off the floor tonight and absolutely wows everyone on night two, we’re looking at best another Olympics as an alternate.

Although honestly her coming out of the tunnel on Sunday and nailing four rotations might be the most DiCello thing that could happen. Stay tuned.

While we’re on the subject, I literally learned tonight that DiCello and Lee are best friends. Lee said DiCello was the first person she called when she won the All-Around in Tokyo, and DiCello was in Florida at the time, which is a weird place for an alternate to be, but whatever.

The point is Lee was clearly bothered as medical staff wheeled DiCello out of the arena with her injury after the very first vault of the night, and Lee nearly slipped off the apparatus herself a few moments later. But Lee is a mega super star and showed the same level of focus, poise, and determination that won her the All-Around in Tokyo, including another miraculous save on beam where I swear the woman has talons for toenails. Also her bar routine might just be the best in the world.

Chiles showed up and showed out. This is the swaggy punk rock Chiles who’s been missing a bit since she was picked for PanAm instead of Worlds. None of that matters though. Welcome back rockstar. Four routines to go.

Also Terminator Carey was back tonight as well, giving out her patented crisp, clean, mistake-free routines in the most calmly stoic fashion imaginable for an allegedly human person. That may seem as though I dislike Carey, but not remotely true. She’s an absolute legend and champion at literally every level the sport has to offer. Her demeanor’s also a great offset with huge personalities like Biles and Chiles.

On the outside looking in, Roberson scrapped and clawed for a respectable fifth place tonight and even added new routines to her repertoire for trials to close the gap between her and the upper echelon. While that should technically put her into contention the problem for her is she’s basically Jade Carey, but less so (except a lot more personality), in that she’s a Vault/Floor specialist in the same way Carey is, but a little less so. It’s not really a fair comparison as Carey is the reigning Olympic champion on floor and probably would have medaled on vault if not for the botched runway incident. Still begs the question why take the diet version when you can have the original recipe? Roberson is relatively young (18), has an incredible mentor in Biles, and should be a frontrunner for LA.

Lincoln falls into a similar camp as Roberson, but even less so. Ostensibly, she’s a floor specialist (although she performed admirably as an All-Arounder tonight) and was banking on a presumed need with Lee on the team, they’d be light on floor. But with Biles and Jones both in the running to medal on floor, add Carey to the mix who is, again, the reigning Olympic champion on floor and also really rather good on vault, it doesnt look like a need at all, and you have two spots covered instead of one. Always seemed like an overblown issue especially considering how stupid deep the US is with All-Arounders and two or even three event specialists, the days of a Maroney or Kocain making the team to dominate one event may be gone.

Wong started off strong and even lead all gymnasts after two events, but perhaps predictably faded once she moved onto beam and floor, where her mistakes started adding up. At this point, she’s battling for an alternate spot. And even then, while I don’t know offhand how many alternates there are, even with the injuries, I’d give them to DiCello, Roberson, and even Rivera before Wong. OK, maybe not Rivera; that’s probably just being mean.

Even still, Rivera continues to shine and impress, She finished ahead of not only all the other rookies, but both Wong and Sumanasekera, who weren’t exactly doing poorly - Rivera just outperformed them. She’s clearly lightyears ahead of the other Senior Elite rookies and I’m super excited to watch her build off these strong showings over the next four years in route to LA.

While we’re at it, Paris hasn’t officially been selected, but let’s make a prediction for LA (with the age they’ll be in 2028). I have the team as: Skye Blakely (23), Kayla DiCello (24), Josc Roberson (22), Hezly Rivera (19) and Tiana Sumanasekera (20).

OK, now I’ve gone too deep. End transmission.
 
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If the U.S. could field a team entirely of the gymnasts knocked out of competition this past month from injury, they’d be a gold medal contender in Paris:

Gabby Douglas, Trinity Thomas, Konnor McClain, Skye Blakely, Kayla DiCello.

And now, Shilese Jones … maybe.

Link: Jones Withdraws from Day 2 of US Olympic Gymnastics Trials

Jones completed a single event at Trials and is therefore still eligible to be chosen for the team. Unfortunately, she hasn’t competed fully since the U.S. Classic in May, and Sacramone Quinn said specially, the committee places a high value on performance at Trials and emphasized they want gymnasts who are ready now, not two weeks from now.

That said, for the last two years, Jones has been the second best gymnast on team USA, and arguably the third best gymnast in the world. Quite frankly, her body of work should speak for itself, regardless of her inability to go at Nationals and Trials. Jones said she could have gone at Nationals, but chose to listen to her body and play it safe … exactly what gymnasts were forbidden to do under the old regime.

Baker, Memmel and Sacramone Quinn now face a dilemma. If they select Jones Sunday, they’re going back on their word that Trials is the most important determination for making the team, setting the stage for a gymnast to absolutely kill it at Trials and still not make the team, putting into question why there even is a Trials event in the first place.

But if they pass on Jones, in place of Roberson, Wong, Rivera or Lincoln, they’re not only sending an inferior team, but plainly saying gymnasts need to push through those pains and compete while injured or risk losing the spot on the roster they’d otherwise earned. That’s a very Karolyi move.

What I think should happen is Jones gets the nod for Paris on Sunday night, and it’s made clear if she isn’t 100% by Paris, the first alternate is taking her spot. That’s why you have alternates, for just this type of thing.
 
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BREAKING: Gabby Thomas wins the women's 200m at the US Olympic trials.

Sha'Carri Richardson finishes fourth, and will not be eligible to compete in the Olympics in this event. She had previously qualified for the Olympics in the 100m and the 4x100m.
 
Welcome to the Thunderdome

Final Day of Gymnastics Trials and please, everyone: say some prayers, burn some incense, sacrifice a goat, whatever you gotta do to make sure no one else goes down with an injury.

Right now, unless the committee makes the unprecedented and controversial move of naming a hobbled Jones to the team (with which I would honestly take zero issue) we’re looking at the Tokyo 4 (Biles, Lee, Chiles, Carey) and whoever else is left standing as your Team USA to Paris.

And I don’t mean that as a cliched metaphor. I mean literally, still physically able to stand under her own power.

Joscelyn Roberson:
Pros:
-Trains at Biles’ gym
-Vault/Floor specialist, good recent Beam work
-Team Member at 2023 Worlds
-Currently 5th at Trials
-Placed 5th or higher in 3 events at Trials
-Showcased new elements to make a push.

Cons:
-Injury Scratch at Worlds
-At times, appears still bothered by injury
-Has not had very good overall meets this cycle,
-Nationals was particularly disastrous.
-Beam improving but inconsistent
-Does not help Team with Bars.

Leanne Wong:
Pros:
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Solid All-Arounder
-Most experienced of remaining gymnasts
-3x World Team member and champion
-Elite or Collegiate medal on every apparatus
-Tokyo Olympic Alternate
-New Cheng vault at Trials, Third Highest event score

Cons:
-Competed Elite and Collegiate simultaneously
-Possibly suffering from over-exhaustion
-Been prone to mistakes and deductions
-No impressive Elite meets since Worlds
-Started strong at Trials, but faded to 8th

Kaliya Lincoln
Pros:
-Elite Floor specialist
-International experience at PanAm Games
-Currently 6th at Trials
-According to the computer, she has the highest scoring potential with the other 4 front runners.

Cons:
-Not especially strong outside of Floor
-Lacks overall experience
-Still only 16

Hezley Rivera
Pros:
-Junior All-Around Champion
-Exceeding expectations at Senior level
-Strong Bars/Beam work
-Shown Promise on Floor
-Took 3rd at Winter’s Cup
-Finished 6th at Nationals
-Entered Final Rotation at Nationals in 3rd
-Currently 7th at Trials

Cons:
-Very Little Senior Elite Experience
-Minimal International Experience
-Struggles with Consistency
-Terrible U.S.Classic (Finished 28th)
-Vault is questionable
-Only just turned 16

Tiana Sumanaskera
Pros:
-Trains at Biles’ Gym
-Fantastic on Beam
-Strong on Floor
-2x PanAm Games Team Member
-Finished 6th at US Classic
-Placed 3rd on Floor at Nationals

Cons:
-Bars Utterly Unusable
-Little International Experience
-Only 16
-Currently 9th at Trials (lowest of those in contention for a spot)

Stay safe ladies. And everyone get out of that gym in one piece.
 
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Superlatives and GOAT status aside,
Simone Biles just jumped 12 feet into the air.

Greatest gymnast of all time, no question.

One of, if not the, greatest athletes of all time?

She’s in the conversation.
 
Night 2 in the books. And the best news: No one got hurt.

Twas also a thrilling four rotations of gymnastics.

Big 4 had some stumbles. Biles, Lee, and Chiles fell off beam, Carey struggled in parts, but they finished 1-4 and all earned standing ovations.

The battle for the fifth spot was red hot. Roberson and Sumaneskera hit their routines. Wong gritted her way to her best showing this season.

But Hezly Rivera was sublime on bars and beam, solid on floor, and shockingly stellar on her last vault to earn 5th place.

Team is being decided now. We’ll know in about 10 minutes.
 
I thought Rio was supposed to be the Final Five?
The Tokyo Olympics shifted to teams of 4 with options for up to 2 extra gymnasts from each country to compete as individuals.

IOC realized that was an awful idea, maybe in part after watching the United States forced to use its only 3 gymnasts on every event when Biles went down (plus the strangeness of having gymnasts who were “technically” part of the team, but having no real stake in the team’s success beyond patriotism) and reverted to teams of 5 for Paris and onward.

And even still, they named themselves that also because they were Marta Karolyi’s “final five” gymnasts. So I suppose the name still fits.
 
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Damn. He must have caught hell in the clubhouse after giving up the second one.
Shortstop caught the most hell.

Brewers Announcer: “Jose Hernandez has almost no range whatsoever at shortstop. That’s a play Jose Valentin would make in his sleep.”

Weird twist, Hernandez would later become an All-Star in 2002 … with the Brewers

Valentin did not. But he did get into the Milwaukee Wall of Honor, so that’s something.