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Warhawk

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Heading out with a friend to go see the Sharks in their last home game of the season (also fan appreciation day). Sucks that the Stockton Thunder/Heat are gone and I have to go to freaking San Jose to watch hockey. We really could use a minor league team in Sacramento.
 
Oklahoma wins back-to-back National Titles in Women’s Gymnastics, while Florida’s living legend Trinity Thomas ends her career tying the record for most perfect 10s in collegiate gymnastics history.
 

Mr. S£im Citrus

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Something compelled me to check to see how that poker scandal was resolved: J4 Report – Hustler Casino Live

Looks like they declined to formally "clear her of any wrongdoing," but stipulated that they found no evidence of cheating. So, if you'd already made up your mind that she did it, I don't imagine anything has changed for you. But, if she did it, they apparently couldn't prove it.
 

pdxKingsFan

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oh, I guess I need to go back and see if I thought she cheated or didn't and if I should be outraged.

I think I came to the conclusion it was a bad call that turned out correct.
 

Mr. S£im Citrus

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I hold fast to the belief that she made an amateur move in a high-stakes game, that could have gone wrong a dozen different ways, and it paid off because she was playing dude, and not the hand.
 

pdxKingsFan

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I hold fast to the belief that she made an amateur move in a high-stakes game, that could have gone wrong a dozen different ways, and it paid off because she was playing dude, and not the hand.
Sometimes the simplest answer is the correct answer. It's poker, if you don't have a bad beat story I suspect you've never played.

I guess what I can't even remember is, what was the "evidence" or indication that she was cheating vs. just the 10 million other times a similar thing happens without incident?
 

Mr. S£im Citrus

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The "evidence" was basically nobody believed that she's a good enough poker player to be able to outsmart dude, and no competent poker player would have left themselves so exposed to a hand like that on purpose, so she had to have been cheating.
 
The evidence was she called, not raised, a hand that nobody could have expected. Even if he was bluffing, 95% of the time he beats her with his bluff. We don’t need to rehash it, you and I already vehemently disagree that she has some super power to soul read this guy.
 

Capt. Factorial

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The evidence was she called, not raised, a hand that nobody could have expected. Even if he was bluffing, 95% of the time he beats her with his bluff. We don’t need to rehash it, you and I already vehemently disagree that she has some super power to soul read this guy.
She originally made a small raise and her opponent pushed her all in, so at that point she couldn't raise.

Furthermore, there was one card left to come, and if you assume that she had somebody with knowledge of the remaining deck (based on the TV coverage) telling her to call, there were 32 cards left in the deck and her opponent won on 17 of them - she was actually behind! If she was cheating, she was shooting herself in the foot.

So my assessment, that nobody is asking for, is this:

A cheater folds. A cheater doesn't push all in on a (less than) 50-50 shot, but rather waits for a better opportunity. She wasn't cheating.

A good player folds. A good player recognizes that she has no draw. Barring pairing one of her two cards, the only way she can improve her hand is for the board to come up a full house, which is a split at best for her. Even if she believes that her opponent is bluffing, there are a lot of opportunities for things to go really wrong here. Her opponent could have a better face card (or equal face card with a better kicker), or have paired the 3 on the board, or even have a low pocket pair. All those are essentially "bluffs" that are already ahead. Or they could have a straight or a flush draw (he in fact had both) that could give much better odds on the river. Even if her read is right, and he doesn't want a call, that doesn't mean in this circumstance that she's ahead. And she can't bluff him out, because he's all in. A good player folds all day all night every time. Runs away. Maybe they make a lot of noise about how they were soooooo close to calling but a good player never had any intention.

Sherlock Holmes says, when you've eliminated the impossible, whatever is left, however improbable, must be true. Sherlock Holmes says she's a bad player, and she made a mistake.
 

Capt. Factorial

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The PGA just merged with LIV.
Whaaaaaaaaaat?!
Now I don't follow golf, but it's almost as if it's difficult to maintain separate and exclusive (e.g. players can't play in both) high-level leagues in the same sport.

The American League and the National League...hmm.
The ABA and the NBA...hmm.
The NFL and the USFL (v1), and the USFL (v2), and the XFL (v1), and the XFL (v2)...hmm. Any guesses on what's going to happen to the USFL v3 and the XFL v3?

At the highest level, professional sports naturally are monopolies - because fans want champions. If there are competing leagues they will either merge, or all but one will be driven into obscurity.
 

Warhawk

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Now im curious how talking about a golf association merger could be agianst forum rules...
It's not the merger itself, it is the history and funding of the LIV that can get political, etc. There's some nastiness there on a couple fronts that we won't discuss here.
 
US Gymnastics Olympic Trials set for Minneapolis a little over a year from now - meaning Suni Lee could crash at her parents’ house and take the 20 minute drive to the Target Center for the week.

Field is gonna be stacked even if Biles opts to watch from the stands - which given the snippets of news I’ve read on her training schedule, I’m putting my money on her competing.
 

Warhawk

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It’s official: Biles is making a run for Paris.

She’s registered for the 2023 U.S. Classic in Chicago on August 5th, which is both the last qualifying event for the US Championships, and the first time she’ll have competed since Tokyo.

Carey, Chiles, and Lee - who had some kind of kidney issue that prematurely ended her run at Auburn - are also set to compete.

Here’s hoping Biles gets her groove back in the Windy City.
 
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