Sore Losers??

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checked with the recap section of nba.com on the Kings win over the Spurs & the last few lines of the article got my attention. In all fairness, was it really a bad call or it's just because San Antonio didn't expcet they'd lose this game to us at all? Here it is:

http://www.nba.com/games/20050102/SASSAC/recap.html

SACRAMENTO, Calif. Jan. 2 (Ticker) -- Peja Stojakovic put an end to the Sacramento Kings' surprising struggles at Arco Arena.

Stojakovic made six 3-pointers and scored 28 points as the Kings avoided their first three-game home losing streak since 2000 with an 86-81 victory over the San Antonio Spurs.


The Kings had lost two straight and four overall at home after not having lost more than eight in any of the previous four seasons - a span during which they held the best home mark in the NBA.

The win was also Sacramento's first against an opponent with a winning record since beating the Lakers in Los Angeles on November 26.

"It's just a terrific win," said a clearly relieved Kings coach Rick Adelman. "People talk about how we haven't done well against the better teams, especially the last couple. Our guys made their runs and made plays."

In a back-and-forth contest, Stojakovic's 6-of-10 shooting from the arc proved to be the difference. He scored nine points - all on 3-pointers - in the third quarter as Sacramento took a 62-56 lead into the final period.

"I was just being aggressive," Stojakovic said. "I was looking at my opportunities and every time I had a little space I was trying to be aggressive and shoot the ball."

While Stojakovic had the hot hand offensively, the Kings won on the defensive end holding the Spurs to 39 percent shooting (34-of-88) and their second-lowest point total of the season.

"We're very proud of our defense and our effort," Kings forward Chris Webber said. "To be able to win ugly games feels really good because that's the way (the Spurs) try to make it."

The Spurs did not help matters from the line, where they made just 50 percent (9-of-18).

"If you can hold (Sacramento) to 86, that's tough to do," San Antonio coach Gregg Popovich said. "But our shooting and the free throw line really betrayed us tonight."

San Antonio fought back to tie it, 73-73, on a 3-pointer by Brent Barry with 4:42 remaining. Stojakovic answered with a shot from the arc on the other end to give the Kings the lead for good.

Webber scored 14 points and had 13 rebounds but did his best work on the defensive end, where he held superstar forward Tim Duncan to 14 points on 6-of-17 shooting, twice tying him up for jump balls.

"He's such a great player," Webber said of Duncan. "He and I laugh about it. People will say we both played great defense at the end of the game. But he feels he missed some shots. My effort was definitely there. I just tried and fortunately we won the game."

Robert Horry nailed a 3-pointer with 12 seconds left to draw the Spurs within 84-81. Horry and Duncan trapped Stojakovic in the corner and appeared to force a jump ball of their own. But Horry was called for a foul, and Stojakovic hit both free throws to seal the win.

"Considering there were so many jump balls called during the game, I thought that could be one," Popovich said.

"Consistency, that's all we ever ask of (the officials)," Horry said.

Duncan refused to talk about the final play.

"That could get me fined," he said.

Manu Ginobili scored 18 points and Horry added a season-high 12 for San Antonio, which had its five-game winning streak snapped.

Both teams struggled in the first half, when rookie Kevin Martin scored seven of his nine points - including a dunk with less than two seconds remaining - as the Kings took a 42-39 advantage into the break.
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Great Win! GO KINGS!!!!
 
That play they're whining about was hilarious. Horry and Duncan raked Peja across the arms and were chest to chest with him, so they blew the whistle. Then AFTER the whistle blows, Duncan grabs for the ball and signals for a jump-ball.... and is surprised when the call they made before he even touched ball is a foul and not a jump ball.

As far as Pop, he was ready to blow his top the whole game. The refs did a good job of ignoring it and giving him a fair shot at staying in the game. I hate it when a player or coach whines about how they made alot of a certain call, so they should've made that call again just to help them out. And then they turn around and say they "want consistency".
 
I think they're just whining. judging from the play by play thread the spurs had their share favorable(or ignored) calls themselves.
 
did you watch the game on tv? even reynolds & napear said there was no foul on that play... horry did grab peja's jersey before the ball was inbounded, so it all worked out. still, its rather entertaining to watch this forum swing between the ref's suck and they hate the kings, to making fun of other teams who criticize officiating after the kings win.
 
sorry fellow kings fans, but in all honesty, i thought the refs gave us a gift on that last play. i was screaming at the tv for peja to call a timeout when he got trapped before the whistle. we had 2 timeouts and a 20. and when the whistle blew, i was thinking, "oh crap, it's a jumpball."

as for the post-game whining, i'm glad to see that it's not us for a change. it was a bad call by the refs, but that doesn't change the fact that our team won this game.
 
jeffjcalweb said:
did you watch the game on tv? even reynolds & napear said there was no foul on that play... horry did grab peja's jersey before the ball was inbounded, so it all worked out. still, its rather entertaining to watch this forum swing between the ref's suck and they hate the kings, to making fun of other teams who criticize officiating after the kings win.
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I don't think we have to swing on this one. The ref's do suck and the Kings get screwed more often than others. I was suprised at that call so late in the game, a period in which refs usually swallow their whistles. And the call certianly was touchy.

However, early in the game the ref's were letting the Spurs hammer the Kings. If the ref's call the game by the book, the Kings would have blown out the Spurs. Bottom line, Kings earned the victory and the Spurs didn't. Even if there is a jump ball call, nothing says Spurs get it or that that call wins the game for them.
 
Peja was fouled before the ball even went inbounds... The Spurs are lucky that Peja didn't get to shoot one free throw and get the ball back. There was no foul, but I think the ref realized he should have called the grab, which in turn lead to Peja getting trapped, so he blew the whistle. Would I have liked it if it went against the Kings? Of course not. But the Spurs got away with a ****load that whole game, including a couple of undercuts on Bibby when he was shooting, and an obvious hit on the arm on a Peja three... (Peja will never shoot the ball and miss 5 feet short of the rim unless he's hit and it was blatant)... If the refs did their job right in the first place, the Spurs woulda been down by 4 with the Kings getting another inbounds. So it equals out in a way.
 
jeffjcalweb said:
did you watch the game on tv? even reynolds & napear said there was no foul on that play... horry did grab peja's jersey before the ball was inbounded, so it all worked out. still, its rather entertaining to watch this forum swing between the ref's suck and they hate the kings, to making fun of other teams who criticize officiating after the kings win.
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Even reynolds and nappear ;) They work for the kings (kinda) dont they. Anyhow i didnt watch the game and i dont know about it, but i have seen that the spurs get a lot of calls going their way than not and probably they are used to that and when they dont get a game deciding call they feel like they were cheated
 
Yes, Jerry and Grant work for the Kings. That doesn't mean they see everything, any more than the officials do...

The call was made. Sometimes they go against us at critical junctures; this time we may or may not have gotten lucky. Either way, Duncan's comment was BS - talk about sour grapes.
 
jeffjcalweb said:
yes, they work for the kings... and they said "NO FOUL". so what's your point?
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why so bitter? never heard of someone getting worked up over a call that went our way. :)
 
C4_Stojakovic said:
Robert Horry nailed a 3-pointer with 12 seconds left to draw the Spurs within 84-81. Horry and Duncan trapped Stojakovic in the corner and appeared to force a jump ball of their own. But Horry was called for a foul, and Stojakovic hit both free throws to seal the win.

"Considering there were so many jump balls called during the game, I thought that could be one," Popovich said.

"Consistency, that's all we ever ask of (the officials)," Horry said.

Duncan refused to talk about the final play.

"That could get me fined," he said.
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Who said that? Horry is always like that. Whenever it is a close game and things aren't going his way he just blames it on the officals. I like Duncan because of his sportsmanship so thats why he didnt want to comment so he wont get fined.
 
I must of read it differently . I didn't see it as them being sore losers. If you remember we have been there. I can go to games from last week and pull up all the threads on the officials being bad.

IMO the officials in the NBA are the worst of the major sports by far. To their credit this is a very fast game and things are happening at a much quicker pace and in a much smaller area of play. Not to there credit they shouldn't have 50-60 year old men trying to keep up with 20-30 yr olds. No offense to people that are 50+. :)
 
I think the officiating was almost as sloppy as the game itself last night, there were alot of missed calls on both sides of the floor, obvious fouls that werent called against both teams.
 
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