Should the Kings Trade a Core Player?

Should the Kings trade a Core Player?

  • Yes, Trade Bibby, Peja or Miller for a Big Man

    Votes: 38 42.7%

  • No, Just add through Free Agency (MLE)

    Votes: 9 10.1%

  • No, Just trade some of the other Players

    Votes: 37 41.6%

  • No, the Kings are fine as is

    Votes: 5 5.6%
  • Total voters
    89
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kingsofnba

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Petrie has gone on record saying that the kings are going to build around the core of Bibby, Peja and Miller.... but this may just be a ploy to raise their trade value.... if the kings do trade a core player, they would have a lot more options to try and improve the team and get bigger and more defensive... if they just try free agency or trade the other players, their options are much more limited....

Some of the names that have been mentioned on this board are not realistic unless the kings part with one of the big three....

at this point, what do other kings fans think????
 
Actually, he went on record as saying we were going to build around our core of Mike, Peja, Brad and Bobby. We see how THAT worked out:p I think we are in a tenuous situation still. VERY good complimentary pieces, but no centerpiece. If Petrie can pull off a deal to get a player who could BE that centerpiece, he's got to pull the trigger, even at the cost of one or more of the current 'core' As it stands now, we will be good, but not great.
 
the only reason I see to trade any of the core would be to get a superstar. It would be fine by me to see any of them go to get KG here or someone like him. If we are getting someone like Ratliff then I would hope that we just trade some of the bench players.

At this point I am just trying to trust in GP..........I can't wait till we find out what he is doing!
 
I think this may be the time to trade Peja... the reason why is he is in his contract year and has openly talked about wanting max money... now, with all the money invested into Bibby and Miller long term, can the maloofs really afford to pay Peja max or near max money next year???.... i say that if the kings trade Peja, they can get a very nice piece in return...

a player that may be available is Chris Bosh of Toronto... he is big, athletic, shot blocker and good offensive game.... toronto drafted another PF in Charlie Villenueva in this years draft.... but for the raptors to trade their young PF, they would probably require someone to take Jalen Roses massive contract in return....

if the kings could package Peja, Thomas and Corliss to Toronto for Bosh and Jalen Rose... then i think both teams could benifit.... Toronto gets one of the best shooters in the nba and proven all-star... i beleive toronto has a large serbian population, so Peja would help with ticket sales.... they would also get potential starter in thomas and corliss....

the kings would get a young, athletic, shot blocker and scorer... jalen can start at SF... and the kings will avoid paying Peja max money next summer or risk lossing him for nothing.....
 
It is interesting that nobody thinks we ought to stand pat. We can't improve much through free agency. There are apparently no gems in the list. Somebody has to decide whether we should begin the season with an "average team". I think the "core players" have effectively been on the table for some time.
 
Just a few thoughts:

1) If we are going to trade Mike or Brad, it is more likely that either will be traded ALONE given the length and size of their contracts. If we are going to trade Peja, it is more likely that he will be packaged with Corliss, Skinner, or any of our role players given that Peja has an expiring contract that is undervalued. I guess if we want to get rid of some role players with big contracts, Peja may be the bait. If we trade Peja straight up, we will not get a player of equal value in return, especially since big man are worth more in the NBA. If we want to get equal talent value for Peja, it will probably have to come as a sign-and-trade next year when the monetary value of his contract goes up.

2) Although no one is untouchable, I doubt we will trade Mike because he is the floor general that makes the offense run. If we want a big man in return, we BETTER also get a PG in return because I can't see Jason Hart running our offense as our starting PG. If that is the case, I doubt we can get a quality big man in return if we have to also get a PG in return to replace Mike. This is not the season to lose both Mike and Bobby at the same time...you will lose all blueprint of all that has made us successful at the PG position.

3) I also doubt we will trade Brad because he is the only guy in the high post who can run the pick and roll offense. With our recent acquisitions of athletic guards such as Wells, Garcia, Martin (from last year), the success of these guards will be predicated on a big man who can set picks and pass the ball to them. That man is Brad. Since we're already lacking in size in the front court, trading away an All-Star center would only be reasonable if either Duncan or Garnett was in the picture (and the Spurs or Wolves would be crazy to trade their cornerstone of their franchises).

My best guess is that we won't trade any of our core (Mike or Brad for position reasons and Peja for contract reasons) although we desperately need a power forward. Some way, some how, Petrie will get it done.
 
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Daily factoid: Did you know the goldfish has a short-term memory of about 3 seconds?
 
VF21 said:
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Daily factoid: Did you know the goldfish has a short-term memory of about 3 seconds?
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Prooving once agin that your average college freshman is about twice as smart as a gold fish. (Sigh I really should NOT teach Summer school it jsut makes me more cynical and jaded)
 
HndsmCelt said:
Prooving once agin that your average college freshman is about twice as smart as a gold fish. (Sigh I really should NOT teach Summer school it jsut makes me more cynical and jaded)
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Watch out. You might just turn into piksi...

(No offense whatsoever meant to piksi, who is the first to admit he's cynical and jaded.)

;)
 
I anticipate Peja having a career year. Should be in top 5 in league in scoring at over 25 PPG. Boards and defense still a ? mark. With C-Webb gone, with good health, and ball-hog Cutino out of the mix, and a low post guard to feed off in Bonzi....Peja will get a lot of open looks, and he has something to prove to his critics, and the rest of the league who see him as a cream puff.

I like this trade proposal though. Chris Bosh is a terrific young player. Explosive lefty with solid fundamentals. Runs the court like a gazelle. I would not want Jalen Rose in this stage of his career though. But he has value to a team looking for one final piece. If Geoff Petrie could get a third team involved and get young star or star potential in return for Rose, this trade would be sweet for Kings, in short and long term.

If you are going to trade the best shooter in the world in the prime of his career, you better get a lot back. Chris Bosh fits the definition of a lot.
 
Kings Fan said:
Just a few thoughts:

1) If we are going to trade Mike or Brad, it is more likely that either will be traded ALONE given the length and size of their contracts. If we are going to trade Peja, it is more likely that he will be packaged with Corliss, Skinner, or any of our role players given that Peja has an expiring contract that is undervalued. I guess if we want to get rid of some role players with big contracts, Peja may be the bait. If we trade Peja straight up, we will not get a player of equal value in return, especially since big man are worth more in the NBA. If we want to get equal talent value for Peja, it will probably have to come as a sign-and-trade next year when the monetary value of his contract goes up.

2) Although no one is untouchable, I doubt we will trade Mike because he is the floor general that makes the offense run. If we want a big man in return, we BETTER also get a PG in return because I can't see Jason Hart running our offense as our starting PG. If that is the case, I doubt we can get a quality big man in return if we have to also get a PG in return to replace Mike. This is not the season to lose both Mike and Bobby at the same time...you will lose all blueprint of all that has made us successful at the PG position.

3) I also doubt we will trade Brad because he is the only guy in the high post who can run the pick and roll offense. With our recent acquisitions of athletic guards such as Wells, Garcia, Martin (from last year), the success of these guards will be predicated on a big man who can set picks and pass the ball to them. That man is Brad. Since we're already lacking in size in the front court, trading away an All-Star center would only be reasonable if either Duncan or Garnett was in the picture (and the Spurs or Wolves would be crazy to trade their cornerstone of their franchises).

My best guess is that we won't trade any of our core (Mike or Brad for position reasons and Peja for contract reasons) although we desperately need a power forward. Some way, some how, Petrie will get it done.
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since when is peja a role player? Last time I checked, he was a starteter
 
kingsofnba said:
now, with all the money invested into Bibby and Miller long term, can the maloofs really afford to pay Peja max or near max money next year???...
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well, they could afford Miller and Bibby there is no reason not to be able to afford Pedja if they want to and if he wants to.
 
when it comes to, "should the kings trade away one of their core players?", i just say trade whoever to help the team. but leave bibby alone;) :D .
 
I'm all for trading one of the "core", but for a "nameless big man", no thanks. I chose add through free agency, or trade some scraps. I'm just looking for a PF who can rebound and play tough D. I don't care if he can't score.
 
thesanityannex said:
I'm all for trading one of the "core", but for a "nameless big man", no thanks. I chose add through free agency, or trade some scraps. I'm just looking for a PF who can rebound and play tough D. I don't care if he can't score.
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thats what im saying, but i would rather pick up a C who can rebound and play defense and if he cant score big deal.. the reason i want a C is cause i want brad to move over and play the 4.
 
I would trade a core player, and I think Petrie is working on it to bring in a borderline or full All Star player. The question is, what position would you "downgrade" to get a all-star caliber PF? PG, SF, or C?
 
Bibby or Peja. Only for a guy like Brand/KG/Jermaine O'Neal/Rasheed..maybe K-Mart/Nene/Boozer.

Miller is much too important to the team.
 
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Kings113 said:
Bibby or Peja. Miller is much too important to the team.
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I would agree to an extent. A couple of years ago, the PG market was tight and Bibby would be a lock to stay. Nowadays, too many guys have good ballhandling and can bring the ball up the court, however I don't see Hart and this unknown guy from Washington doing much, unless Petrie is confident we can "steal" an all-star PF. Better make sure that PF can pass though. If we do get rid of Bibby, we better use the MLE to sign Payton or something. That would make me more confortable.
 
The more I think about trading a "core player" I can't help but be concerned over how much talent we've bled. Sure we could trade Peja for Tyson Chandler, or Peja and Corliss for Pierce, but then you think more and we've effectively lost Peja and Webb for Paul Pierce, Kenny Thomas, and Brian Skinner. Tell me that three years ago and I'd punch you in the face.

Even more, we'd have swapped our entire "core" of Divac/Webb/Christie/Peja for KT/Skinner/Pierce. Ouch.

I have nothing against the Hedo/Pollard for Miller or the Tag/BJax for Bonzi trades. Trading little used bench players for a quality starter makes good sense. Even the Christie for Mobley deal I liked at the time, but losing Cat for nothing hurts. I guess Divac didn't really play much last year anyways, so losing him for nothing shouldn't hurt. The Webb trade still kills me, and will until Petrie makes some sense of our situation at PF. But even then, as I find myself advocating Peja trades, we'll have swapped our two best players... and for what?
 
most interesting part of this poll to me is that less than 5% of people really believe that we are ok as we are. come on Petrie -- work your magic -- give us something here...
 
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