Shams Bomb! Keon Ellis and Dennis Schroder traded to Cleveland in 3 team deal. Kings acquire De’Andre Hunter

Tetsujin said:
Clearing out the guard logjam also makes it so you can take a guard in the draft with absolutely no issues at this point. Peterson is big enough to be a wing but if we fall to five and get Flemings, there was a 75% chance Doug would have him coming off the bench behind Dennis for some reason.
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If you need to trade journeyman Schroeder to draft BPA then we’re screwed already
 
Tetsujin said:
For better or worse the Kings appear to be in “we want cap space in the summer of 2027 mode”.
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And they've done none of the real leg work yet. They have to get Domas or at least Monk off the books now. This clears nothing. This is a pure talent grab, OK, Perry gets ONE of those. Now it's time to start prioritizing the things they were supposedly looking for in rebuilding assets.
 
MizzouKing said:
Thoughts from the New York Times...

Sacramento, which by all rights should be rebuilding, put themselves on course to be over the luxury tax next season by adding a 28-year old with sore knees while giving up a 26-year-old whose next contract will likely be for half as much

I do hope this turns into Kuminga.

www.nytimes.com

Kings’ trade with Cavaliers shows a lack of foresight and direction

If the Kings are indeed rebuilding, it's hard to see a clear through-line with their recent sequence of moves.
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Kuminga still has potential but Hunter is a safer bet if he can stay on the floor. He's got legit tools. He's basically who they want Keegan to be on offense.
 
FWIW, there is still time for Perry to turn around and send Hunter to the Warriors in a straight swap of Hunter for Kuminga before the trade deadline.

Hunter seems more like the ideal replacement for Jimmy Butler than DDR, since the Warriors are looking for Defense and 3 point shooting. Plus Hunter comes off the books by 2027, which is what the Warriors are demanding in any trade.
 
SacTownKid said:
Kuminga still has potential but Hunter is a safer bet if he can stay on the floor. He's got legit tools. He's basically who they want Keegan to be on offense.
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I would much much much more rather take a shot at Kuminga youth and upside. Alas, doesn’t seem like the warriors wanted to play ball.
 
ockingsfan said:
FWIW, there is still time for Perry to turn around and send Hunter to the Warriors in a straight swap of Hunter for Kuminga before the trade deadline.

Hunter seems more like the ideal replacement for Jimmy Butler than DDR, since the Warriors are looking for Defense and 3 point shooting. Plus Hunter comes off the books by 2027, which is what the Warriors are demanding in any trade.
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No trade is official it’s too late now.
 
TaxMan said:
I would much much much more rather take a shot at Kuminga youth and upside. Alas, doesn’t seem like the warriors wanted to play ball.
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Here's the thing about Kuminga vs. Hunter. Hunter likely has higher value around the league and make no bones, both are all about talent grab, nothing more regardless of age. Both are expecting to make a chunk of a teams salary cap and that's the biggest issue in a rebuild. If the Kings for whatever reason really want Kuminga? Offer him the MLE in the summer (which would be a mistake potentially). See if whatever legwork Perry did this last go around with him and his camp pays off. The Kings can't be getting in on any more players that are of that distressed asset variety unless picks come with them and Kuminga appears to be just that considering the general lack of interest in him last summer. At the MLE Kuminga might have 29 suitors, but if so, this is where Perry reminds him that they were the only ones there in his darkest times.
 
I had been holding out hope that the Ellis and Schroder package would somehow land us Tari Eason, seeing the Rockets also needed PG help. Still, curious to see what Hunter can do next to Murray.
All in all, glad something happened. Never thought Schroder would move the needle here, and guys Ellis size need to be more efficient distributers.
 
No player in the Sacramento-era history of the franchise has ever finished their career in Sacramento* who wore number 15.





*minimum 82 career games played.
 
Caccia said:
The way the schedule panned out this year, with an insane November and December, followed by a January that was the most difficult in the league, tells me that the NBA front office planned to force Sacramento to rebuild, come hell or high water. There was no earthly reason to schedule all the games with Oklahoma City, Denver, and Minnesota before New Year's. It looks to me like that was deliberate.
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When do we ever have an easy schedule? Despite playing all the same teams mostly the same amounts of time we are always ranked high in difficulty which I assume also includes travel irregularities and b2b games when they gauge strength of schedule. To say they somehow rigged this year against us would just as much be they rig every year. They say it's randomly generated to be fair, and to some extent I am sure it is, then they shift the schedules around TV priorities and since we aren't one, we get what we get. My guess, at least. We're an oversight less than a blatant screw job.
 
Mr. S£im Citrus said:
I don't really think anything about the Hunter trade, either way. I was trying to reconcile the notion that the Kings won this trade with the belief that they will still finish in the bottom 5. I don't think that some people here appreciate just how little improvement it would require to go from the worst record in the NBA to the sixth-worst. Like, not really much at all, and if the Kings won this trade, that might about do it.
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That's what makes me mad about the deal more than anything. If we sit him to rest his knees the way we sat Domas and Fox after that deal, and/or we trade some combo of Domas, DDR, Monk or Zach then suddenly I feel like ok we're all in on getting the top pick still.

I don't like the Raptors deals talked about on the surface but it would put some of this concern to rest, and then I assume we move DDR to a contender. Maybe depending on who we take back we send Russ out for a second or very late first. There are teams that can use Russ who will be picking in the 25 or later range or who just don't need all the draft picks they have.
 
Just saw that Cleveland comes to town on the 8th. It will be interesting to see how Keon responds, and would like to see Carter matched up against him.
 
ockingsfan said:
Really? I thought players acquired in a trade can be traded in another trade, as long as it’s a one for one swap?
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It doesn't even have to be a "one for one" swap, it's just that the newly acquired player can't be packaged with anyone else. Detroit sent out four players and 2 FRPs in the deal that brought them back Rasheed Wallace; two of those players (and one of the picks) went to Atlanta, the team that had just traded to get Wallace.
 
Mr. S£im Citrus said:
No player in the Sacramento-era history of the franchise has ever finished their career in Sacramento* who wore number 15.





*minimum 82 career games played.
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TaxMan said:
I guess….there are rebuilding moves that are obviously good for the sake of the rebuild, and then there are moves like this (and the Dennis signing in the offseason) that open questions. I’ve yet to see evidence that Perry is thinking two steps ahead and so will at this point judge it in isolation. In isolation this move balances the roster and gets off the partially guaranteed third year of Dennis’ contract (he handed out previously). That really seems to be it. If all we cared about was a rebuild then we would have moved Ellis for draft capital.

With that said, I will give Perry credit if he pulls off another couple moves and the overall plan comes into focus, but right now he doesn’t give off vibes that he’s got a Sam Presti vision.
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Not enough data yet for a Perry assessment. My litmus test is going to be what he does with DDR, Westbrook and maybe some others at the trade deadline. Heaven forbid if Christie is awarding Westbrook and DDR with 35 minutes/game in February - April.
 
ESP47 said:
Hunter and his negative VORP will fit in nicely here.

We keep thinking that Perry is going to do something impressive at some point but I'm not so sure that's the case. So far acquiring Cardwell, a hopeful backup C, has been his only positive move. Everything else has been bad, pointless or head scratching up until this point.

Maybe he'll luck into a top 5 pick this year and redeem himself.
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Padrino said:
On this point we do not disagree. However, it doesn't take a genius to lose a sh*tload of games. Scott Perry needs to illustrate that he possesses the competence necessary to get his priorities in place for a rebuild. He had a good draft day last year, but his work in free agency and on the trade block suggests a GM out of his depth thus far. In no world should the Sacramento Kings of 2025-2026 have become older, slower, with less upside, and less room for development. Monte McNair left the Kings in a crummy state, particularly after trading De'Aaron Fox for Zach LaVine. Scott Perry largely made it worse, and you're not convincing me that there's some sort of high-level "rope a dope" happening behind the scenes. The man's trying to figure out how to clean up his off-season mess, and I hope he's prepared to start taking some actual steps forward.
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It’s clearly harder to lose a crap ton of games than thought. It’s not a surprise the worst teams repeatedly end up at the back of the lottery.
 
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