Sean May

Showtime said:
I am usually a cynic, but I can't see any positives to this even if I try really, really hard.

I don't think there was any need for the word (but). But, I like a man that knows who he is..:rolleyes:
 
Sean May's idea of a balanced meal is 2 large pizzas in each hand..

The Bobcats put Sean May on a water diet and now Lake Superior is gone...

Seriously though, why another PF when there is only one center on the roster? Aaron Gray would've been a nice pickup. Maybe even Foyle for the minimum or something along those lines.

I fear that Aaron Gray would be Joe Kleine part II...;)
 
Well, sports does sort of have a physical age limit, at least for players/participants at the highest level of a sport. I'm old and I know I can't do what I could at 25. Will never look like that again either, I'm afraid. ;)

(Although I must say I'm quite impressed with Lance Armstrong's 3rd place finish in the Tour de France at age 37, after a 4-year retirement.)

Better living through chemistry!! :rolleyes:
 
This is the comment (not comments) that you are basing all of your feelings on?

It is all past-tense...

...He is referring to his time with Charlotte.

^ Which is the only time he has to refer to. I doubt the question posed to him was specifically about his college career 4+ years ago.

He probably uses the past tense because the question posed to him is about the issues in his career prior to the kings, which just happens to be all past tense. He's not playing right now. The season has yet to begin.

No where in there does it talk about his weight/conditioning now. We don't know what went down in Charlotte, and quite frankly nor do I care.

Read the quote again, and you realize he said "pretty good shape." Not Great, not even good. He acknowledges there's room for improvement.

For the team's sake, I hope he has changed. But all I know is what information I can read and comments that come from them, because I'm not part of the cats organization, nor am I May. And every time I read something about May, two things pop up in why he has played so little: health and conditioning. Don't you think it's funny that the cats, who could use a backup PF, didn't even offer May a minimum deal? This from a team that loves N Carolina guys.

Sorry, it just seems that one reason you are such a Anti-May advocate was because you were such a strong re-sign Ike supporter. If that is far off, then forgive me.

I was a strong supporter of keeping Ike, but that doesn't mean any other player I will jump on because he's not Ike. I just feel this signing has very little upside and little chance at actually helping the kings, so I see no purpose in it.

Why is this "NOT THE CASE?" From the interview I read, I see a player who is desperate to prove he can play in this league and be a part of something special with all of our young players.

I already explained. He was asked specifically, point blank, about the things that limited him, and he brushed them aside. So I really see no opportunity for change if he either can't change or won't change.

I just don't see how you can be questioning his commitment to the game, work ethic, conditioning, etc, on just this one comment/Bobcats fans.. How do you know he is NOT committed to changing these things? Because of ONE comment?

His own comments and his recent history are the ONLY things we can judge on right now. I'm not May, so the closest I can get to understanding his intentions and motivations are what he SAYS and what he DOES. This is the most recent interview, and it's telling what his thoughts are on those issues. And it's not that one bobcat fan who came here, I get similar comments when I ask more about May on other forums. There's not many fans in his corner, and usually that's not a good sign. So even people who saw a lot of him aren't high on his future.

No, giving May a second chance means welcoming and believing that he will change.

And what basis is there for that belief? I asked point blank what motivates one to think he will change when everything I see points to the opposite conclusion.

That's not giving a second chance. Your mind is already made up.

My mind is made up because the information available leads me in that direction. Why hope for change when there's nothing that suggests he will change? Again, he was asked point blank about changing, and he said he didn't think anything he did or did not do was an issue. So he doesn't want to change. Why on earth would I expect a guy to change when there's nothing to indicate that?

I am glad you are basing your argument/opinions on insinuations found in a single paragraph of a Internet article.

Sean May: "Conditioning? When you don’t play, it’s tough to be in game shape."

Are you seriously saying I'm unreasonable based upon his comments? Read it again. It's tough, in his eyes, to stay in game shape if he's not actually playing. Now, that could either mean that his injuries, which kept him out of games, could also limit what workouts he could do, or it could mean that if he's not playing when he was healthy that it's hard for him to stay in shape.

In summary, Potential = high, Cost = low.

Well, I'm glad GP isn't the only one who thinks this is a move with high potential.

Go Kings.

That is probably the only thing we can agree on here. I've said all I can say on the topic, so I'm done with this thread until May proves me wrong.
 
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Showtime said:
That is probably the only thing we can agree on here. I've said all I can say on the topic, so I'm done with this thread until May proves me wrong.

Well hopefully he will. Not to prove that your wrong, but because it would certainly help the Kings. Personally, I think a mountain is being made out of a molehill. We have to fill out the roster with someone, and if you can do it with a player that still has upside, why not? As far as what would motivate him to change. Well being where he is at this point in time, a once highly regarded player, now standing on the edge of being out of the league. If that doesn't motivate him, nothing will.

I certainly don't know everything in his past history, but I do know he was injured a lot, and it is harder to stay in shape when your injured. In fairness to him, his reference to staying in shape, was staying in game shape when your not playing. Almost any player in the league will tell you that no matter how hard you work out off the court, its almost impossibe to get into game shape without playing.

As far as Ike goes. I posted, that out of curiosity I went back and looked at his game logs for the first three years. He was very up an down. And so were his minutes. But if you have the time to look at them, there's huge inconsistancy in his game. There are 4 or 5 game stretch's where he logged around 30 plus minutes a game. He would score 19 points and grab 12 rebounds in the first game, and then score 5 points and grab 4 rebounds the next game. I don't have the info in front of me right now, but there were games that he showed he was capable of scoring a lot of points, very similar to the two games for us at the end of the season, and then he would just disappear in the next couple of games, and wa la, his minutes would go down again.

I don't think the Kings were opposed to bringing Ike back. But I think they were only willing to go for one year at the minimum. Apparently Ike or his agent wanted more. He's still sitting there waiting for a team to make him an offer. And as of right now, the Kings still hold his rights. Not sure why, if they no longer have any interest in him.
 
My mind is made up because the information available leads me in that direction.

Are you seriously saying I'm unreasonable based upon his comments? Read it again. It's tough, in his eyes, to stay in game shape if he's not actually playing. Now, that could either mean that his injuries, which kept him out of games, could also limit what workouts he could do, or it could mean that if he's not playing when he was healthy that it's hard for him to stay in shape.

Your mind is made up based upon a bunch of "coulds." You just proved that you don't even know what he is referencing and yet you are so passionate in your conviction that he is not even trying.
 
I'm sure the Kings put him through his paces before offering him a one-year contract. Give the guy a chance. This is like entering a longshot in the Kentucky Derby. 99 times out of 100 they won't come in. But when they do, the payoff is incredible...
 
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