[Rumor] Seagull: Kings interested in Ja Morant

Shiiiit

Maybe we should just close that tweet for the good of Kings fans
That list is hilarious as it provides all kinds of confirmation bias and yet I'm not sure we can take anything just by "jump shots". I am assuming based on the footage it is not including 3s, so all the analytically good shots (layups, dunks and open 3s) are excluded yet high usage players often find themselves with no opening and the ball in their hands with the clock about to expire, the only other option is tossing a grenade to your teammate at that time.
 

Don’t look at 3 it might shatter some delusion

Well he's taken 259 shots this season against 2836 for his career, so I'm going to lean in the direction of small sample size volatility in Keegan's case. If he were a career 27% shooter from three I'd be concerned. Even accounting for bricking everything for 19 games this year, his career average is still respectable.
 
That list is hilarious as it provides all kinds of confirmation bias and yet I'm not sure we can take anything just by "jump shots". I am assuming based on the footage it is not including 3s, so all the analytically good shots (layups, dunks and open 3s) are excluded yet high usage players often find themselves with no opening and the ball in their hands with the clock about to expire, the only other option is tossing a grenade to your teammate at that time.

If it does not include 3's than that's some bizarre new definition of "jump shot" that I'm unaware of. It has to include anything that is a jump shot no? So the only FGA's not included should be dunks, layups, and floaters. I guess also push shots should be excluded which leaves a small gray area on when a shot technically becomes a jump shot.
 
If it does not include 3's than that's some bizarre new definition of "jump shot" that I'm unaware of. It has to include anything that is a jump shot no? So the only FGA's not included should be dunks, layups, and floaters. I guess also push shots should be excluded which leaves a small gray area on when a shot technically becomes a jump shot.

What about the set shot? :D
 
What about the set shot? :D

Even more gray area! Practically speaking, expecting someone to reliably keep track of whether a player's feet left the ground or not while their upper body executed a shooting motion during the course of a game is probably asking too much. I bet someone somewhere has this as data but I wouldn't trust it.
 
Guess I'll be THAT guy that says yes! I mean, depends on what we give up but any of the old guys and a protected 1st and I'm on board.
 
If it does not include 3's than that's some bizarre new definition of "jump shot" that I'm unaware of. It has to include anything that is a jump shot no? So the only FGA's not included should be dunks, layups, and floaters. I guess also push shots should be excluded which leaves a small gray area on when a shot technically becomes a jump shot.
I honestly don't know, Ja is shooting 20% from 3 so I guess it could track. I have no way to tell with basketball reference numbers that I see but I'm only going to dive into this so deep.
 
I like Morant more than Kuminga. But I don't like Morant much because of his injury..

I like Morant more than Kuminga. But that's because I don't want Kuminga at all.

I'm not even sure what Memphis would want for Ja. Keegan? Domas? We don't exactly have blue chip trade pieces.
 
Miami makes the most sense, Davion has hit a brick wall and can't make a pass in a pick and roll and Herro has been easily outplayed by Powell and they do the same thing,(plus JJJ has been the 6th man of the year so far) the Heat badly need a pick and roll guard to spoon feed Bam and Ware for dunks cause both there one on one offense sucks. I guess they could trade for Powell+ assets as well and keep Herro.
 
An injury prone lunatic, that isn't a good shooter and doesn't play defense. Sign me right up :oops:
Seems like everyone is injury prone now days. He has negatives but he also has the ability to take over games, and he can run an offense. And if costs Lavine (another injury prone/ no defense player) and a protected FRP I don't see much risk. Personally, I think Morant is better than his current play, I see him on the same level as Fox. I think a change of scenery will do wonders for Ja.
 
Seems like everyone is injury prone now days. He has negatives but he also has the ability to take over games, and he can run an offense. And if costs Lavine (another injury prone/ no defense player) and a protected FRP I don't see much risk. Personally, I think Morant is better than his current play, I see him on the same level as Fox. I think a change of scenery will do wonders for Ja.
He really made his name with highlight dunks.
 
I genuinely can’t believe there are people on this board, people who likely had lived through the DeMarcus Cousins era, who watched him up close as Kings fans, who can say they’d rather have Ja Morant than Jonathan Kuminga.
We’re talking about a polarizing player with a long history of off-court issues, someone who never had the right guidance growing up, surrounded himself with questionable influences, lost the trust in the locker room, and left fans decoding NBA YoungBoy and Rod Wave lyrics on Instagram and Twitter every time he threw a tantrum. A player who would almost certainly cost the Kings organization a fortune just to acquire...

... over a 23-year-old who has every physical and athletic tool to become a strong two-way defender. A young player whose development has been complicated since being drafted by the other Northern California team obsessed with chasing and sustaining a dynasty, often at the expense of managing his minutes and role properly. A player who averaged 23 points per game in the second round of last year’s playoffs (something this franchise, and especially its fans, haven’t seen in over a decade) iso-cooking Nas Reid, trading buckets with KD during stretches last season, and showing flashes of being locked in on both ends. A player with a chip on his shoulder who simply wants a new situation, the ball in his hands, and the chance to prove himself. And likely won't be a huge gamble to trade for and invest in... even if it doesn't work out and they give up on him after this season.
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It’s a no-brainer for Sacramento to take a swing. No one is pretending Kuminga is a star, but the upside is real, especially for an 8–30 team lacking athleticism, a clear focal point, and a foundational piece to build around. Under a GM and head coach committed to defense, toughness, and representing the city the right way, the risk is minimal.

But I digress, this is a Ja thread, not a Kuminga one.
 
Best path forward is a few seasons of lottery picks…

Yeah, because we’ve hardly had any over the last 20 years.
We've had 3 top 5 picks in the last 13 years and 6 over the last 33 years.

We've "won" an upgraded pick in the lottery a total of 3 times in that period since drafting Owens who we traded for Rock, and 5 times in the entire time we've been in Sacramento. (One of the 3 times we had the pick swap with Philly so picked Fox at 5). We've actually picked in the top 3 a grand total of 3 times.

Picking 6 or later in the next 2-3 drafts is cause for legitimate concern. As painful as the next 2.5 seasons will be getting there.
 
Don't look at the guy right ahead of him who you want to mortgage the whole future for

Stats like that on teams that have given up pretty much don't matter to me. When I was working for a company that I didn't care much for, and only was there to get a paycheck, my work was not my best work. Far from it.
 
Well he's taken 259 shots this season against 2836 for his career, so I'm going to lean in the direction of small sample size volatility in Keegan's case. If he were a career 27% shooter from three I'd be concerned. Even accounting for bricking everything for 19 games this year, his career average is still respectable.
Not to mention the broken bone or whatever that is in his off hand. I imagine that would have an effect on someone’s shot even if it isn’t their shooting hand. I’m not saying he’s gonna be Peja next season but Keegan has shown enough for me to believe he can shoot. Certainly more than those other bricklayers on that list. Castle is dreadful
 
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