[NBA Cup] San Antonio Spurs vs New York Knicks, 2025 Cup Final

Yeah, do they have the salaries to make that work though?

I haven't looked up their situation but assumed Fox would probably need to be included for salary
They still have Vassel and Keldon’s deals to help match a max deal.
 
Soooo many familiar comments in this Spurs game thread I'm reading lol over at the new "Spurstalk" (fans have migrated elsewhere)

Barnes is kinda useless out there
His 3PT attempts aren't even close. Think it's mental at this point. 0-10 from 3 now the past 2 games on almost all wide open looks. Pretty brutal. Kills our offense when he sucks tbh.
“At this point” as in, for his career.

i like barnes alot.But he did not just miss open shots.He miss big momentum changing shots that could of
change the game more in our favor.Champ,vassell and castle didnt bring it either on the offense side.
 
Mike brown making great decisions

Fox having a good game

The guy we should’ve traded fox for having and amazing game


This hurts
Spurs were never going to do that. It would have been crazy back then and even more so now, looking at the difference between Fox and Castle at this point. For, Fox isn't tons better though I'm pretty sure he's more efficient.
 
All we had to do is not fire Mike Brown instead of listening to some of the players ***** about Brown’s hard practices. Instead Vivek made a choice amd our head coach is not it and the roster is god awful.

I think Vivek had been looking for any opportunity to install Christie. Once the factions started was all the "reasoning" he needed
 
Well gee golly wiz, wittle chucky thinks NBA
bad ☹️

This guy keeps a loaded catheter just in case he sees any one eating cereal.


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Did you read his reasoning which he’s 100% correct on there’s a reason nba players are entitled like no other athletes

No, I don’t care what Chuck said. Chuck is more entitled than any of the players. Gets paid 100 mil to sit in a desk 3 days a week, doesn’t know the player’s names, doesn’t watch the games and spends half the broadcast hating on the league that gave him his fortune. His “back in my day” bit is old just like him. It’s not a coincidence that the NBA ratings have been up since the switch to more professional and positive coverage on Prime and NBC.
 
No, I don’t care what Chuck said. Chuck is more entitled than any of the players. Gets paid 100 mil to sit in a desk 3 days a week, doesn’t know the player’s names, doesn’t watch the games and spends half the broadcast hating on the league that gave him his fortune. His “back in my day” bit is old just like him.
More like once every other month: have you peeped their schedule? Next week will be the first time they've been on in six weeks, and then they get another month off.
 
Lukewarm take: a diversity of opinions is healthy and beneficial to the league. It's good to have the Old Men Yelling at Clouds set; they remind us of where we came from, and help us determine what we may want to keep and what we may want to jettison. And it's good to have younger progressive voices pushing the game forward; they grant us insight into what is possible as the league evolves. The tension between the two has kept the NBA on its toes as it tries new things and wades into the future.

I'm of the opinion that, despite the record scratch that NBA officiating often represents, the league is in a really strong place. The three point barrage continues, but there is less homogenization across the Association. Some teams are managing to win without relying on outside shooting (and in some cases, without true starting caliber point guards). Parity has been a boon for small market success. The level of competition is obscene. There are more greats on the court at one time than there have ever been, and a great many of them hail from international markets. Try putting together the three All-NBA teams on paper and see how many names you're forced to leave off.

Personally, I find the fracturing of the media landscape to be a general annoyance (and that's my own inner Old Man Yelling at Clouds), but I think it's great that Amazon, NBC, and ESPN all have different approaches to covering the league at the heights the modern game has managed to scale. Gimme Chuck in all of his cranky, ostentatious blabbering, and also give me Steve Nash soberly and smartly breaking down the game for the average viewer.
 
Lukewarm take: a diversity of opinions is healthy and beneficial to the league. It's good to have the Old Men Yelling at Clouds set; they remind us of where we came from, and help us determine what we may want to keep and what we may want to jettison. And it's good to have younger progressive voices pushing the game forward; they grant us insight into what is possible as the league evolves. The tension between the two has kept the NBA on its toes as it tries new things and wades into the future.

I'm of the opinion that, despite the record scratch that NBA officiating often represents, the league is in a really strong place. The three point barrage continues, but there is less homogenization across the Association. Some teams are managing to win without relying on outside shooting (and in some cases, without true starting caliber point guards). Parity has been a boon for small market success. The level of competition is obscene. There are more greats on the court at one time than there have ever been, and a great many of them hail from international markets. Try putting together the three All-NBA teams on paper and see how many names you're forced to leave off.

Personally, I find the fracturing of the media landscape to be a general annoyance (and that's my own inner Old Man Yelling at Clouds), but I think it's great that Amazon, NBC, and ESPN all have different approaches to covering the league at the heights the modern game has managed to scale. Gimme Chuck in all of his cranky, ostentatious blabbering, and also give me Steve Nash soberly and smartly breaking down the game for the average viewer.

I welcome diversity of opinions but THEE most prominent NBA media members with THEE biggest platform have been telling us the league sucks for nearly 10 years. That would be like me telling my customers my food sucks now and it was better back when I started and then my employees disagreeing and saying it’s still pretty good. I don’t see the same dynamic in any of the other major sports. That said, I probably shouldn’t be bothered by it given I haven’t watched one minute of Chuck and crew this season.
 
I welcome diversity of opinions but THEE most prominent NBA media members with THEE biggest platform have been telling us the league sucks for nearly 10 years. That would be like me telling my customers my food sucks now and it was better back when I started and then my employees disagreeing and saying it’s still pretty good. I don’t see the same dynamic in any of the other major sports. That said, I probably shouldn’t be bothered by it given I haven’t watched one minute of Chuck and crew this season.

The Inside the NBA crew developed their schtick over time, but they've always been big on personality, shallow on analysis. People expect Chuck, Kenny, and Shaq to rib each other, goof off relentlessly, say "the game was better in my day", then eventually get reeled back in by Ernie. And there's an audience for that, though I'm not in it; I typically mute those guys when halftime rolls around.

That said, I absolutely love Amazon's NBA crew. Their coverage and analysis is absolutely top-notch, as far as television programming goes. Maybe it's not as entertaining or as "fun" as Inside the NBA, but it turns out there's an audience for what Amazon's doing, too, and I happen to be in it. Again, I think it's great that the NBA has this diversity of viewpoints, and while I've been bored by Inside the NBA for years now, I'm thrilled that some competitors have come along to serve different parts of the NBA's core audience.
 
Soooo many familiar comments in this Spurs game thread I'm reading lol over at the new "Spurstalk" (fans have migrated elsewhere)

I was thinking the same last night watching it. Watching him missing all of his 3s last night created some PTSD of his whole tenure with the Kings. If he was making those wide-open 3s, the Spurs would've had a chance late-game.

For such a consummate professional, it's kind of strange that it might just be a psychological thing...
 
The Inside the NBA crew developed their schtick over time, but they've always been big on personality, shallow on analysis. People expect Chuck, Kenny, and Shaq to rib each other, goof off relentlessly, say "the game was better in my day", then eventually get reeled back in by Ernie. And there's an audience for that, though I'm not in it; I typically mute those guys when halftime rolls around.

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I'm in it.

I love their shenanigans; I don't have a whole lot of use for hardcore analysis... My favorite sports podcast has the motto "**** athletics," and my second-favorite sports podcast is targeted towards casual fans (like, it's literally in the name). As a brand, as a staff, record label and crew, I love Inside the NBA. I'm just sick of Charles' "these kids are entitled" BS, like he would be any different if he had been born thirty years later.
 
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I'm in it.

I love their shenanigans; I don't have a whole lot of use for hardcore analysis... My favorite sports podcast has the motto "**** athletics," and my second-favorite sports podcast is targeted towards casual fans (like, it's literally in the name). As a brand, as a staff, record label and crew, I love Inside the NBA. I'm just sick of Charles' "these kids are entitled" BS, like he would be any different if he had been born thirty years later.

To be clear, I'm not even saying Inside the NBA is bad, or that those in their audience are somehow less than. I was a big fan of Inside for a lot of years. But after a certain point, the dynamic never meaningfully evolved and I got bored of their particular schtick. I'm not even after hardcore analysis, necessarily, but I like listening to smart basketball minds talk about the game. It's a good way to keep me from hitting mute. I don't really need to hear Shaq mumble nonsense for the umpteenth time, or listen to Kenny pretend like he's the analytical member of the bunch.
 
To be clear, I'm not even saying Inside the NBA is bad, or that those in their audience are somehow less than. I was a big fan of Inside for a lot of years. But after a certain point, the dynamic never meaningfully evolved and I got bored of their particular schtick. I'm not even after hardcore analysis, necessarily, but I like listening to smart basketball minds talk about the game. It's a good way to keep me from hitting mute. I don't really need to hear Shaq mumble nonsense for the umpteenth time, or listen to Kenny pretend like he's the analytical member of the bunch.
I can appreciate that those shows are available for the people who want that, as long as there's still shows for the people who don't (read: me). I typically prefer to talk about the stuff I like, and I try to avoid giving takes on the stuff I don't like (I tend to fail at the latter entirely too much to suit me, but I'm still working on it).
 
I can appreciate that those shows are available for the people who want that, as long as there's still shows for the people who don't (read: me). I typically prefer to talk about the stuff I like, and I try to avoid giving takes on the stuff I don't like (I tend to fail at the latter entirely too much to suit me, but I'm still working on it).

Well it would seem we're at least somewhat in agreement then! My original post on the matter was extolling the virtues of a diversity of presentation and viewpoints within NBA coverage. I have my preferences, but I love that ESPN, NBC, and Amazon are all kind of carving out their own distinctive lanes. It makes for a more interesting league when the coverage is dynamic and varied.
 
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