Sac/Den/Det Trade

Capt. Factorial

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I was thinking through the most likely trade scenarios I've seen in the past few weeks - especially considering Artest appears to be on the block - and it seemed to me that the most likely scenario out there was Artest for Najera/Kleiza. Najera is merely expiring, while Kleiza doesn't do much for us as a shooter with Martin/Garcia around. So I came up with this:

http://www.realgm.com/src_checktrade.php?tradeid=4471839

Sac Trades: Ron Artest
Sac Receives: Eduardo Najera, Ronald Murray, Det 2008 1st round pick, Den 2009 1st round pick

Den Trades: Eduardo Najera, Linas Kleiza, 2009 1st round pick
Den Receives: Ron Artest

Det Trades: Ronald Murray, 2008 1st round pick
Det Receives: Linas Kleiza

Why it works:
Sacramento is looking to get rid of Artest - they get two expirings, a late first rounder in this year's draft, and another first rounder in next year's draft. Putting the picks in separate years keeps the Kings from having a roster crunch this year after the draft. Najera and Murray are not seriously considered to return after this year.

Denver is scared - they're finally competing and the Lakers just went out and got Gasol. They need to make a move now to get better while the Carmelo/Iverson/Camby roster is competitive, and Artest is available. They don't really want to trade Nene, so this is the easiest way to land Artest
and try to win now.

Detroit could use a SF to back up Prince as they make another run at the East. They give up a late first rounder this year and a guy they're not playing. Heck, Kleiza could even turn into something.

Why it doesn't work:
Sacramento definitely goes into rebuilding mode here. Artest, if he stays, could make the Kings competitive for a low playoff spot this year and next, while two late draft picks won't contribute for a while. On the other hand, Petrie may want to try to offload KT's contract with the Artest bargaining chip, and it's not happening here so the Kings might hold off.

Denver may be gunshy about Artest opting out after this year. At least Kleiza is under control for another year. And if Artest opts out, the 2009 pick may be a slightly better pick (high teens to low 20s?) than they want to give up for a half-year rental of Artest.

Detroit - I'm not a Detroit fan, but this deal looks to good to pass on for them. Kleiza as a useful backup for a playoff run in exchange for a guy who doesn't play and a very late first-rounder. Why not?
 
Det Trades: Ronald Murray, 2008 1st round pick
Det Receives: Linas Kleiza

LOL! no way in hell is Linas Kleiza worth a first and Ronald Murray. Dumars will laugh, tell denver and sac to watch them in the eastern conferance finals and hang the phone up.
 
LOL! no way in hell is Linas Kleiza worth a first and Ronald Murray. Dumars will laugh, tell denver and sac to watch them in the eastern conferance finals and hang the phone up.
Probably true, but I have seen worse trade scenarios started on this board.:cool:
 
LOL! no way in hell is Linas Kleiza worth a first and Ronald Murray. Dumars will laugh, tell denver and sac to watch them in the eastern conferance finals and hang the phone up.

Seriously, you don't think Kleiza to back up Prince is worth one of the last first round picks this year and a guy who hasn't played in months? Murray has 25 consecutive DNPs and Prince's backup is who, exactly? Jarvis Hayes? At least Kleiza can shoot from outside. He's not the greatest piece in the world but Detroit's not exactly giving much up here.
 
I was thinking through the most likely trade scenarios I've seen in the past few weeks - especially considering Artest appears to be on the block - and it seemed to me that the most likely scenario out there was Artest for Najera/Kleiza. Najera is merely expiring, while Kleiza doesn't do much for us as a shooter with Martin/Garcia around. So I came up with this:

http://www.realgm.com/src_checktrade.php?tradeid=4471839

Sac Trades: Ron Artest
Sac Receives: Eduardo Najera, Ronald Murray, Det 2008 1st round pick, Den 2009 1st round pick

Den Trades: Eduardo Najera, Linas Kleiza, 2009 1st round pick
Den Receives: Ron Artest

Det Trades: Ronald Murray, 2008 1st round pick
Det Receives: Linas Kleiza

Why it works:
Sacramento is looking to get rid of Artest - they get two expirings, a late first rounder in this year's draft, and another first rounder in next year's draft. Putting the picks in separate years keeps the Kings from having a roster crunch this year after the draft. Najera and Murray are not seriously considered to return after this year.

Denver is scared - they're finally competing and the Lakers just went out and got Gasol. They need to make a move now to get better while the Carmelo/Iverson/Camby roster is competitive, and Artest is available. They don't really want to trade Nene, so this is the easiest way to land Artest
and try to win now.

Detroit could use a SF to back up Prince as they make another run at the East. They give up a late first rounder this year and a guy they're not playing. Heck, Kleiza could even turn into something.

Why it doesn't work:
Sacramento definitely goes into rebuilding mode here. Artest, if he stays, could make the Kings competitive for a low playoff spot this year and next, while two late draft picks won't contribute for a while. On the other hand, Petrie may want to try to offload KT's contract with the Artest bargaining chip, and it's not happening here so the Kings might hold off.

Denver may be gunshy about Artest opting out after this year. At least Kleiza is under control for another year. And if Artest opts out, the 2009 pick may be a slightly better pick (high teens to low 20s?) than they want to give up for a half-year rental of Artest.

Detroit - I'm not a Detroit fan, but this deal looks to good to pass on for them. Kleiza as a useful backup for a playoff run in exchange for a guy who doesn't play and a very late first-rounder. Why not?

Without going into the specific content, I just want to applaud you for a very well-thought out proposal. Nice work!

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Without going into the specific content, I just want to applaud you for a very well-thought out proposal. Nice work!

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Completely agree. Its nice to hear well thought out trades, whether I agree or disagree.
 
Without going into the specific content, I just want to applaud you for a very well-thought out proposal. Nice work!

Thanks VF (Heuge as well)! I was really just trying to turn the Artest for Najera/Kleiza rumors into something that I thought was more beneficial to the Kings, as I don't think Kleiza fits here. In the end I'd like to get more for Artest if we trade him than two late firsts, but that may not be realistic.
 
Kleiza for one of the last picks of the 1st round is a reasonable trade. Whether Detroit does it or anyone else does it is another matter. Kleiza has 3 point range and plays SG, SF, and some PF in certain lineups. He's a solid young guy who can get better. I think that is what any team is looking for at the end of the draft.
 
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