Rudy Gay
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KingMilz
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Best SG on the team lol
ShastaKingsFan
All-Star
He had no problems at all with Wes Matthews, which begs the question,..would he have a disadvantage overall in a matchup on both ends, with just about any SG in the league? I don't think so
Glenn
Hall of Famer
Can he go for 40?
Tetsujin
The Game Thread Dude
Wes Matthews is generally a perimeter oriented player. It's against the faster, driving guards that Gay will probably have problems
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KingMilz
Guest
But Mclemore/Thornton won't? At least Gay or Williams can make them use energy at the other end of the floor and at least get them in foul trouble or something. Both Williams and Gay seem more capable of making wide open shots as well.
PurpleHaze
All-Star
Big-time talent who does it all at such high level, ranging from good to near super star great. Tough minded, good B-Ball IQ, easy to coach (not that he needs much) with great professional attitude. Good shooter, good on and off ball - a dangerous scorer as 1st or 2nd option. Good FT shooter. Skilled enough, long enough to D up just fine on any NBA SFs, some PFs and probably a host of SGs. Just now getting acclimated to his new team mates. Sky is the limit for Rudy Gay with SAC-RA-MEN-TO KINGS.
HereWeBoogie
Hall of Famer
Yea my question, can he start at SG over Thornton please.
Tetsujin
The Game Thread Dude
You make it sound easy
Easily the best player on our roster.. next to Cuz. He defended very well tonight. Batum isn't a heavy shooter, but he can get hot. There weren't open looks for him behind the arc..well because of Gay. Gay also played the 2 tonight and Mo Williams ended up shooting 3-9. I think the defense during the 3rd quarter and Gay helped us win tonight no doubt. With Jimmer's limited minutes, he proved to be impressive imo. This may sound a little crazy, but I wouldn't mind at all giving Jimmer a shot at the starting lineup because our bench is overall terrible.. it needs IT back.. but for now, IT is good until we get another pg... that's if we ever will.
Lineups-
PG-IT/Jimmer/Ray
SG- Gay/Thornton
SF- Williams/B-Mac/Outlaw
PF- Thompson/Quincy
C- Cousins /Gray
I think with our bench in, we would need Gay playing along side them. We should also substitute Jimmer and Thornton a little more to give IT a breathe in the 2nd half. Surprisingly, Thornton isn't all that horrible of a ball handler.
Lineups-
PG-IT/Jimmer/Ray
SG- Gay/Thornton
SF- Williams/B-Mac/Outlaw
PF- Thompson/Quincy
C- Cousins /Gray
I think with our bench in, we would need Gay playing along side them. We should also substitute Jimmer and Thornton a little more to give IT a breathe in the 2nd half. Surprisingly, Thornton isn't all that horrible of a ball handler.
TyFreak Evans
Bench
Nope. None. Dude's been awesome!!!
KingsFanSince85
All-Star
I just read that Rudy Gay became the 1st player since Shaq to score 30+ points on 60+ FG% with 1 turnover or less with 3 different teams.
I don't what that means, but it sounds pretty cool
I don't what that means, but it sounds pretty cool
ParniValjak
All-Star
No questions here! A star who is building nice on court chemistry with DMC!
HighFlyingMonkey
Starter
Can I be the first to say its possible that both Toronto AND Memphis misused him?
This may very well be his natural role. #2 option as a beatdown SF on the block. Memphis never used him that way, they were too crowded in the paint with Zbo/Gasol. Toronto obviously wanted him to be Kobe out on the perimeter.
Gay has fit in like a glove next to Cousins. I love what he's doing out there and I hope he can keep it up. Rudy Gay 3.0.
This may very well be his natural role. #2 option as a beatdown SF on the block. Memphis never used him that way, they were too crowded in the paint with Zbo/Gasol. Toronto obviously wanted him to be Kobe out on the perimeter.
Gay has fit in like a glove next to Cousins. I love what he's doing out there and I hope he can keep it up. Rudy Gay 3.0.
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KingMilz
Guest
Rudini making the shot attempt vanish
Good point. His role on the certainly Kings fits his game better than his role in Toronto and based on early returns it looks like he fits better in Sacramento's offense than Memphis'. Nice.
The only real question I have is whether Gay can continue to be this efficient. I mean, clearly it's not realistic to think he can keep up his numbers from the five games in January but can he be a 50% or better shooter the rest of the way? What's interesting is that he's shooting 52% with the Kings despite not shooting very well (30% thus far) from three point range. If he inches that up to his career average of 34% (which he's already starting to do) then all the better.
But just in case people don't realize how well Gay is playing right now, here's a look at his numbers for the five games so far in January:
In 33 minutes he's putting up 21.8 points per game while only taking 13.2 shots for a FG% of 62%. He's also shot 46% from downtown, 91% from the stripe and is also adding 7.4 rebounds, 3.6 assists and a block for good measure. Sure it's just a five game stretch, but those stats are unreal.
And it means that compared to November (which might well be viewed as the worst stretch of his career) Gay in January is making one more basket per game despite taking six fewer shots and still rebounding at the same level and dishing out an extra assist all in two less minutes per game. He's definitely making the most of his fresh start with the Kings and most importantly, the team is winning with Rudy being a big part of that.
Glenn
Hall of Famer
I think the trade that got us Gay rates up there with the one that got is CWebb. I am not saying Gay is better or equal to CWebb although if he continues at his present pace he will be better, but that he seems to be the correct fit. I have called him the Robin to Boogie's batman and will continue to do so. He is a side kick. He is a #2 man that has been expected to be the #1 man elsewhere. It's a matter of his mind set.
Chubbs
Starter
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Like a career .320 hitter who has a .180 April, it's usually a good bet he turns it around and has a .400 month somewhere along the way. It's not quite as simple as that, cause the huge circumstances change is definitely helping as well.
It's of course not fair to assume his numbers now will continue, just as it was unfair to assume his career worst numbers would continue. I think it's likely at this point the better Rudy continues cause of the Cuz factor. A dominant big makes it easier for everyone.
I bet if you averaged his early season numbers with his numbers now, it'd come out to approximately his career averages for the season.
Like a career .320 hitter who has a .180 April, it's usually a good bet he turns it around and has a .400 month somewhere along the way. It's not quite as simple as that, cause the huge circumstances change is definitely helping as well.
It's of course not fair to assume his numbers now will continue, just as it was unfair to assume his career worst numbers would continue. I think it's likely at this point the better Rudy continues cause of the Cuz factor. A dominant big makes it easier for everyone.
HereWeBoogie
Hall of Famer
Found this posted by a user on another forum (not even a Kings fan) and thought it was interesting......
Player A:
20.4 PER
60% TS
55% eFG
35% FT rate
52% FG
20.6ppg on 14.7 FGA
2.8apg
5.5rpg
85% FT
1.3spg
1bpg
ORTG - 111
24.7% USage rate
Player B:
21.9 PER
57% TS
52% eFG
32% FT rate
45% FG
22.6ppg on 17.1 FGA
3.6apg
6.3rpg
86% FT
1.9spg
0.3bpg
ORTG - 111
27.8% Usage rate
Highlight below to see who Player A and B are:
Player A is Rudy Gay in Sacramento. Player B is Paul George this season
Player A:
20.4 PER
60% TS
55% eFG
35% FT rate
52% FG
20.6ppg on 14.7 FGA
2.8apg
5.5rpg
85% FT
1.3spg
1bpg
ORTG - 111
24.7% USage rate
Player B:
21.9 PER
57% TS
52% eFG
32% FT rate
45% FG
22.6ppg on 17.1 FGA
3.6apg
6.3rpg
86% FT
1.9spg
0.3bpg
ORTG - 111
27.8% Usage rate
Highlight below to see who Player A and B are:
Player A is Rudy Gay in Sacramento. Player B is Paul George this season
Chubbs
Starter
Here's an article on Rudy.
Title "Rudy Gay has turned it around"
http://www.sbnation.com/2014/1/14/5303590/rudy-gay-sacramento-kings-trade-shooting-hook
Ziller, at least in this small sample size, nailed it. Smaller usage rate, Rudy is an entirely different player. His other theory had been that his struggles in Toronto was shoulder related. That doesn't seem to be the case.
Title "Rudy Gay has turned it around"
http://www.sbnation.com/2014/1/14/5303590/rudy-gay-sacramento-kings-trade-shooting-hook
Ziller, at least in this small sample size, nailed it. Smaller usage rate, Rudy is an entirely different player. His other theory had been that his struggles in Toronto was shoulder related. That doesn't seem to be the case.
treach1976
Bench
Love Rudy, but he still isn't passing enough... Pacers game he blew 1 (maybe two but I can't remember if it was that game or the one before) opportunities to drop off a drive to a wide open Acy. Instead, took a well-contested layup that didn't drop.
