Rookie Hawes says he is ready to debut

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http://www.sacbee.com/100/story/472264.html

The pick and roll had gone just fine, with Spencer Hawes catching so many passes from Kings assistant coach Randy Brown and finishing with either a layup or one-handed slam.

Hawes had the pick and pop down, too, sinking most of his midrange jumpers in a workout before the Kings faced Dallas on Saturday at American Airlines Center.

Then, in the clearest of signs the Kings rookie center is feeling like himself and nearing a return from arthroscopic knee surgery in early October, he informed Brown he was ready to score like the best in the game.

"What about how Dirk (Nowitzki) runs to the corner (for a three-pointer off screens)?" Hawes asked.

The coach, a bit perplexed, said, "Are we talking about you, or are we talking about Dirk?"

The No. 10 overall pick with the All-Star aspirations shows no signs of being slowed by the procedure on his left knee and said he's "ready to go." But even though the Kings are desperate for frontcourt scoring, Hawes is not expected to play in Tuesday's home opener against Seattle. He's awaiting word from the team's training staff as to when his NBA career officially can begin.

"It feels a lot better," Hawes said. "I'm able to cut on it. ... Now it's just a question of testing it out in practice-type, game-like situations and trying to see how it responds and then going from there. It shouldn't be that much longer."

The Kings are exercising caution, unwilling to bring back Hawes too early and set the table for another setback.

"He's coming along," coach Reggie Theus said. "A lot of times what happens with stuff like that is it's really healed, but it's just not strong."

Udrih waits – Theus said the broken left index finger of new point guard Beno Udrih also is healed, but he also might miss the home opener because he has not regained strength in the finger.

Udrih, who missed San Antonio's training camp because of the injury, could play Nov. 9 against Cleveland.
 
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funny you say return. as if he was here once before. i hope he doesnt suck as much as moore and thomas. if he does i will swan dive into a pile of thumb tacks.
 
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funny you say return. as if he was here once before. i hope he doesnt suck as much as moore and thomas. if he does i will swan dive into a pile of thumb tacks.
At this point it'd be near impossible to suck as much as Moore and thomas.

I say let him play 20-25 minutes per game at least, he literally could not do ANY worse than what's been done so far.
 

Warhawk

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Hawes at PF and Miller at C at least gives us a ghost of a chance offensively
Maybe the other way around? Hawes at C and Miller at 4?

I think I'd like to see what Hawes and Watkins can do together. Maybe Hawes and Williams if/when he returns....
 
#11
At this point it'd be near impossible to suck as much as Moore and thomas.

I say let him play 20-25 minutes per game at least, he literally could not do ANY worse than what's been done so far.
Well if Watkins is getting 20 minutes I'm sure Hawes will get a lot of time.
 
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Maybe the other way around? Hawes at C and Miller at 4?

I think I'd like to see what Hawes and Watkins can do together. Maybe Hawes and Williams if/when he returns....
Me too. Hawes and Williams sounds especially good. Hawes and Miller scares me. I imagine Tyson Chandler pulling down 25 boards. Let's not go there.
 

dude12

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Hawes is supposed to have a little "take no crap" from anyone attitude. That alone makes us better as our big men don't see to repond to the hard fouls that we are getting:

Douby taking the blind pick to the head
T Chandler trying to nail a few of our other guards in same game
Elson hammering one of our bigs
Dallas giving hard fouls repeatedly throughout the game

I'm not sure I ever saw a response. I do recall Watkins getting the ball blocked out of his hands and retrieving the ball and absolutely steamrolling a Maverick for an offensive foul call. It looked like Watkins got pissed. I like that. I'd like to see more of it.
 

HndsmCelt

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Maybe the other way around? Hawes at C and Miller at 4?

I think I'd like to see what Hawes and Watkins can do together. Maybe Hawes and Williams if/when he returns....
Once again it really does NOT matter what position you announce the player at. Call Brad a point gaurd for all I cat as long as we get a guy at the low post who can finish and let Brad play where he is most productive at the elbow.
 

Warhawk

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Once again it really does NOT matter what position you announce the player at. Call Brad a point gaurd for all I cat as long as we get a guy at the low post who can finish and let Brad play where he is most productive at the elbow.
Well, I think that was the general idea of my thought process, but when you put it so elegantly.... ;) :D
 

Kingster

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At this point it'd be near impossible to suck as much as Moore and thomas.

I say let him play 20-25 minutes per game at least, he literally could not do ANY worse than what's been done so far.
I totally agree. In fact, by mid-December I'm hoping he gets 40 minutes a game. Let's put this in perspective. The best frontcourt player we have right now is Watkins, an undrafted free agent! Hawes will definitely play better than him.
 
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All I say is, don't expect an all-star just yet. Hawes is a project player, not an impact player. Let Al Thorton and Al Horford be impact players. What I want from Hawes is the promise of a great future player. He is only barely 20 and already has weapons that most centers can only dream of. If he's the next Vlade, then i'll be patient.

Is he really talking about pick-n-pops from beyond the arc? If he could pull that off now hand him ROY right here and now.
 
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All I say is, don't expect an all-star just yet. Hawes is a project player, not an impact player. Let Al Thorton and Al Horford be impact players.
Huh? Last summer, when I was dying for us to get Thornton, the pro-Hawes argument was that Thornton might be an athletic freak, but that he was a project with questions about his health, and that Hawes had post skills which made him totally NBA ready. Now Thornton's playing well, Hawes' health questions dwarf Thornton's, and you're telling me that Hawes is the one that's a project?

:eek:
 

Glenn

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Huh? Last summer, when I was dying for us to get Thornton, the pro-Hawes argument was that Thornton might be an athletic freak, but that he was a project with questions about his health, and that Hawes had post skills which made him totally NBA ready. Now Thornton's playing well, Hawes' health questions dwarf Thornton's, and you're telling me that Hawes is the one that's a project?

:eek:
Remarkable judgment after three games and having never seen Spencer play. It may very well express your ant-Hawes position but is based on no facts. In fact, in all fairness, shouldn't we wait a few years Before we are so sure? These two are giants compared to me but need to grow into there big bodies.

All I need is a slimmer body. :(
 
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Remarkable judgment after three games and having never seen Spencer play. It may very well express your ant-Hawes position but is based on no facts.
Four knee surgeries between the ages of 14 and 19 is a fact, and is the only thing I said in Hawes' disfavor. Someone else was saying that he's a project, and I questioned that. I watched several of his college games, and all of his Summer League games, and he looked ready for some minutes to me. So I'm not sure what your point was, but if you want a straw man you should look elsewhere.
 
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I'm not sure I ever saw a response. I do recall Watkins getting the ball blocked out of his hands and retrieving the ball and absolutely steamrolling a Maverick for an offensive foul call. It looked like Watkins got pissed. I like that. I'd like to see more of it.
yea it was Josh Howard, lol
I got really excited when I saw a KINGS BIG MAN grabbing an offensive rebound and working hard to put it back in.
Plus, Josh howard didnt even flop. He literally got smashed to the floor by Watkins.
 
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funny you say return. as if he was here once before. i hope he doesnt suck as much as moore and thomas. if he does i will swan dive into a pile of thumb tacks.
Hawes can score. I am sure you watched some of the summer league games? He has a nice looking shot.

What I hope for is the KT curse not rubbing off on him :)
 
#27
yea it was Josh Howard, lol
I got really excited when I saw a KINGS BIG MAN grabbing an offensive rebound and working hard to put it back in.
Plus, Josh howard didnt even flop. He literally got smashed to the floor by Watkins.
yea seriously i thought he was gonna kill him watkins had some great putbacks i say start the kid
 

Glenn

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Four knee surgeries between the ages of 14 and 19 is a fact, and is the only thing I said in Hawes' disfavor. Someone else was saying that he's a project, and I questioned that. I watched several of his college games, and all of his Summer League games, and he looked ready for some minutes to me. So I'm not sure what your point was, but if you want a straw man you should look elsewhere.
I think I got your note all twisted in my brain. Sorry.
 

6th

Homer Fan Since 1985
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Spencer will not be our knight in shining armor. I'll just be happy to see him back and on the court, getting some much needed NBA experience.