Regional authority will be created to finance NBA arena

Sacramento regional leaders said today they plan to create a six-county "joint powers authority" to finance a new downtown Sacramento sports and entertainment facility for basketball and other community events.

What is this? Sacramento making the right decisions? I am expecting to see porky fly across the blue sky any min now...

Good news, a lot more pockets.

Bad news, a lot of shallow pockets with high risk for in fighting and hangups.

I'm happy with this news, but it does open a new can of worms.
 
Good news, a lot more pockets.

Bad news, a lot of shallow pockets with high risk for in fighting and hangups.

I'm happy with this news, but it does open a new can of worms.

Oh Larry, I knew we could count on you to something negative in this. Has anyone ever told you how apropos your screen name is? :p
 
Not sure if I should put this in here but from Jim Crandell's Twitter..

JimCrandell Jim Crandell
We just talked 2 head of new regional counties group efforting arena..he says arena should be built right next 2 Power Bal Pav, not downtown
 
Not sure if I should put this in here but from Jim Crandell's Twitter..

It's so much easier to build it next to existing PBP - and overall cheaper with infracture already in place, etc. The railyards may happen one day but it might be better for some other type stadium facility for baseball, football, etc.
 
A major problem will be if 6 counties are expected to, in a sense, renovate downtown Sacramento. As a non-citizen of Sacramento, I have always balked at that if a regional approach is used. It seems good that someone from out of the city is heading this up. Wouldn't the counties want great freeway access as opposed to great access to downtown. I don't know if they are mutually exclusive but it seems a regional approach might have a very different agenda.

As to strapped budgets, my guess, and I did say guess, is that a bond issue backed by 6 counties would be the plan. Perhaps that means more money than a bond issue floated by one city. I don't know.

Bonds don't touch local money that could be used for local purposes. Many people don't understand the difference between a bond issue and a loan. I would guess that having 6 counties behind the bond issue would give more legitimacy and would allow for a bigger bond issue. More money. I'm over my head in this. Now if Burkle would buy a substantial amount of the bionds, we would be doing what Samueli is trying to do.
 
Not sure if I should put this in here but from Jim Crandell's Twitter..

First, I'm shocked the guy from Yuba City thinks it should be closer for his residents.

Second, only Jimmy would call the person from Yuba the "head" of this regional approach. What a joke that guy is. I fell pretty safe in saying that KJ is heading this.

IVG's report will say it should go in the railyards. KJ would like these people to put some money in the pot, and if this joker wants to restart the where debate I'm pretty sure he can step out with not much loss.

If Sacramento can get some help from Eldo and Yolo ... I'm sure sure how much Sutter and Yuba bring to the table. Nice .. but for as much as they can help they need to either go along and pay ... or sit out.
 
Wow. Glenn kills Sac city for not funding this, and then "balks" at the idea that Eldo might help out to keep the Kings here. Just wow. And you wonder why I say their might be problems.

I never get why Eldo/Roseville get a free pass on this. That city and county is doing well ... yet Sacramento is inept for failing to fund this alone.
 
A major problem will be if 6 counties are expected to, in a sense, renovate downtown Sacramento. As a non-citizen of Sacramento, I have always balked at that if a regional approach is used. It seems good that someone from out of the city is heading this up. Wouldn't the counties want great freeway access as opposed to great access to downtown. I don't know if they are mutually exclusive but it seems a regional approach might have a very different agenda.

As to strapped budgets, my guess, and I did say guess, is that a bond issue backed by 6 counties would be the plan. Perhaps that means more money than a bond issue floated by one city. I don't know.

Bonds don't touch local money that could be used for local purposes. Many people don't understand the difference between a bond issue and a loan. I would guess that having 6 counties behind the bond issue would give more legitimacy and would allow for a bigger bond issue. More money. I'm over my head in this. Now if Burkle would buy a substantial amount of the bionds, we would be doing what Samueli is trying to do.

When will people pull their heads and and finally get it? There is a moratorium for building permits in Natomas. It is a federal moratorium by FEMA ! Until the levees are fixed for floods it aint going to happen.

http://www.capradio.org/articles/2010/10/11/council-to-discuss-natomas-permit-controversy-tuesday
 
Wow. Glenn kills Sac city for not funding this, and then "balks" at the idea that Eldo might help out to keep the Kings here. Just wow. And you wonder why I say their might be problems.

I never get why Eldo/Roseville get a free pass on this. That city and county is doing well ... yet Sacramento is inept for failing to fund this alone.

I don't understand what you think is "balking." I merely think that a 6 county area might not all be on board to renovating downtown Sac. That's Sacramento's job unless they make it financially worthwhile for everybody else to join in.
 
The other counties profit from tourism, plus don't most of the players buy huge spendy home in the foothills, Roseville, Granite Bay or the burbs South of Sac?

I know Reggie Theus or maybe one other player once had a condo in Campus Commons and I think Ricky Berry was in the ARD area before it turned into Carmichael but I don't recall any in the Fab 40's or the other Prestige neighborhoods in Sac proper.
 
I would hope that the regional authority would be focused on maximizing their return on investment and not on trying to shave 3 minutes off of their commute time to the arena. If the most money can be made in downtown Sac, that's where Icon/Taylor will recommend and that's where it will be built.
 
Both Sacramento and West Sac would be in favor of the Railyards at least. I don't know how many counties are represented, but the Railyards site is clearly the one that makes the most sense I think. It's the only site that could realistically become a destination for the entire region both because of what's already nearby (Old Sac, Downtown Mall, K Street, Raley Field, Capitol Park) and what could be built there. It's a large plot of land, it's in the heart of the city, and it's adjacent to the future rail transportation hub. Any new arena would get the job done, but looking toward the future, it really should be there.
 
A step in the right direction. The Kings represent so many more fans than just the city of Sacramento. Hell, people drive down from Chico and further all the time.
 
The major appeal of an arena in those railyards is that it would be one (albeit major) cog in what could be an explosive driver of growth and development in a large area. You get that arena built there, and all of a sudden, between Raley Field, the arena, and slowly developing downtown entertainment scene, you have a marquee destination for entertainment, dining, shopping, even residency in a prime location for the region.

With Arco Arena in Natomas, even through all the boom years of the economy as well as the Kings, I still wouldn't consider Natomas a destination by any means. There's certainly been development in the area, but the shopping and dining there is marginal and, in my opinion, hardly notable because the majority of the retail development in the area has been dominated by your typical suburb friendly chains. There is no night life there, no notable shopping, and the home buyer's market in that area has suffered more than most because of its existence as a flood zone.

There is simply no other location (besides maybe Cal Expo, but that's out of the question now) that offers the collective regional group as much potential for growth to be sparked by this arena. You can't forget that it's not just the railyards that stand to benefit from a boom in development, but across the river in West Sacramento, as well. There's a potential between both sides of the river for a major center of commerce, entertainment and tourism, and frankly, anyone trying to move it somewhere else is being incredibly short-sighted. It's the people with that attitude who drove us to this point of desperation in the first place.
 
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very true... I'm a Chicoan who has invested my time and money in Kings, and I know many others up here that have as well. Long drive down and back, filling up for gas at some point along the way, usually spend money in the Natomas area before/after games, sometimes a hotel room, sometime make a weekend of it doing other things in Sac. I'm a little lost on what the economic benefit to outlying areas is, however. Yuba City, for example, what exactly do they have to gain by giving financial support to the arena, when some of their local citizens will spend money down in Sac instead of in their own city? I'm guessing it's related to overall economic development of the area, so the moe prominent and viable Sacramento is as city, so goes it with the neighboring cities. And people do live in the Yube City area and commute to Sac, so more jobs in Sac is good for Yuba City. And improved quality of life for people who want to see quality entertainment at a world class arena. But still, it seems the connection is a bit stretched and the economic benefits pretty limited. Can someone spell it out a little better?
 
I don't understand what you think is "balking." I merely think that a 6 county area might not all be on board to renovating downtown Sac. That's Sacramento's job unless they make it financially worthwhile for everybody else to join in.

Balk was your word. To be clear, you've beat up people in Sacramento city and county who say, "Look, I'd like a new arena, but I'm not going to events there so I shouldn't have to pay for it."

You want an NBA quality arena ... which is going to help where ever it goes ... and you are saying that you balk at a regional approach if your money is going to improve Sacramento? Wow.

If it was going to make a return for everybody, it would be privately funded. We waited for 10 years for that to happen. If it kept the Kings here are you really going to care if your county put in 10-15 million because Sacramento paid more money and got the arena? Really???

Do you want to be the pot or the kettle???

Great point about the Natomas building freeze. Unless they are throwing a 30 foot pad under this its a moot debate.

And we know what IVG's report will say.

And we know that Sacramento is going to put more money to it ...

but if guys from Yuba City think they get to decide where it goes and die hard fans like Glenn is saying, "Look, I'm all for keeping the Kings but why is my county paying for a road for Sacramento that goes to the arena...

people this can get done ... just let KJ do his thing.
 
It's so much easier to build it next to existing PBP - and overall cheaper with infracture already in place, etc. The railyards may happen one day but it might be better for some other type stadium facility for baseball, football, etc.

That woul dbe taking the "cheap" way out.. Makes no sense to build another arena there when you can revitalize downtown and make it a travel destianation like it should be.
 
OR NOT....:

mayorcabaldon Christopher Cabaldon
there is no 6-county regional authority to build an arena--period. will keep my mouth shut despite a powerful urge to scream.

@CarmichaelDave one man's imagination does not make a regional joint powers authority. incredibly premature & counterproductive.

there is no JPA. "regional leaders" haven't made plans to form one. just one guy making an alexander haig declaration.
 
What about Elk Grove?

We have the freeway system in place, and the land out here.. 99 and Grant Line has a great brand new onramp, and new roads.. Plenty of parking with the failed mall..
 
OR NOT....:

mayorcabaldon Christopher Cabaldon
there is no 6-county regional authority to build an arena--period. will keep my mouth shut despite a powerful urge to scream.

@CarmichaelDave one man's imagination does not make a regional joint powers authority. incredibly premature & counterproductive.

there is no JPA. "regional leaders" haven't made plans to form one. just one guy making an alexander haig declaration.
Yeah. Just saw that too. WTF?
 
Carmichael Dave tweeting..

CarmichaelDave Carmichael Dave
Spoke w/ @TonyBizjak, who wrote the JPA story. Very frank. Rewriting to reflect @KJ_MayorJohnson's position. Appears JPA may be premature.
 
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