Rambis is not a coach. SVG/Porter are the way to go

[sactownfan]

Im sorry but reading Mark Stein's article on what the magic should do next really worried me. SVG obviously was "very interested" in the Magic job and for a million reasons he would be a great fit for that team and that team would be a great fit for him.

He in my mind and i think most peoples minds was hands down the front runner for the kings job, and for good reason. I was very happy to hear about Billy Donovan getting the job wit the magic. And knew this was key for gettin SVG here in Sac town. But wow things have changed. Before Stein even wrote his article i was already thinkn it..... the Magic need to quickly save face here and hire SVG !

Maybe this sounds a little like the Maloofs hear but im sorry i would never hire Rambis.... Just look at this guy! hes a joke. Sure hes probably qualified and obviously has a winning background but sorry i just dont think this guys has the fire like a Greg Pop or the swagger like a Donny Nelson. hes just a goggle wearing clown. i just dont see a player like artest(here or not) taking him serious.

I hope the Kings realize the threat by the Magic right now and Sign SVG Today! cause i dont ever wanna see this ex laker walking our side lines. I dont care if he played for the kings. hes a laker at heart. Lets just hope that SVG has some hard feelings for being passed up by the magic in the begining.

 

[Spike]

Maybe this sounds a little like the Maloofs hear but im sorry i would never hire Rambis.... Just look at this guy! hes a joke. Sure hes probably qualified and obviously has a winning background but sorry i just dont think this guys has the fire like a Greg Pop or the swagger like a Donny Nelson. hes just a goggle wearing clown.

Good thing you're not in management. If your problem is that he was a Laker, then sure, that's reason enough. But If [sic] "hes probably qualified and obviously has a winning background", you're pretty much refuting your own argument.

Besides, Kareem wore goggles. He turned out OK.

 

[sactownfan]

i also said i dont think hes got the nerve to be a great or even good head coach. especialy if artest is still here when the dust settles. it just doesnt help his cause that during his career and now he was funny looking. hard to take him serious. goggles are sweet but rambis looked like a clown. and yeah if the maloofs wouldnt trade bibby to the lakers because it was the lakers no way i make rambis the coach

 

[sidney]

Rambis' "look" is not the point. His short stint as a coach seemed out of control, even if it was ok record wise. We'd be taking a big chance with him IMO and Stan is the way to go if it is between the two. I can only hope they are making an offer to him now.

Speaking of Rambis' looks though - He looked like some guy who just finished a month long backpacking trip in the Oregon back country when he was playing. Now - he seems so slick. It's almost hard to believe that is the same guy.

 

[HndsmCelt]

While I am in no way sold on Rambis I think folks really seem to miss the point with this guy. He DOES bring some real unique stuff to the table and may not be a bad choce at all depending on what Management has in mind and how clear their vision for the rebuild is.

First of all just the guts it takes for him to be willing to leave what is for all intents and purposes a gaurenteed for life job in LA is a sign, but the self confidnece and guts it takes to be sitting next to PJ for several years now and to be able to say "I think I can do better" speaks volumes.

Secondly Kurt has operated as both coach and as a player in several very different systems. He really knows the old school halfcourt game, the triangle and high post passing games and really understands defense and rebounding. (things the Kings need desperatly)

Last of all Rambis fits the description of a guy with no real reputation to loose by tring new things, playing young inexperienced players in the hope of building up a core for the future and there by MAKING a rep for himself.

True in LA he looked out of controll but he inherited that mess and was never more than just a temporary substitute and the palyers knew it. Can he deal with Artest? Who can? Will the Kings players respond to him? I have no way of knowing but one thing is for sure if he came IN as the man and got a young group of players his chances are not bad.

As for his looks give me break. You want to LOOK at Rambus then watch old footage of him in action. He was tough as nails and knew the game. I am not sure if he still holds the record but I know at one time he had the best shooting percentage in the play offs of any player, BECEAUSE he knew when and who to pass to, and never took a shot he could not make.

Like I said I am not necessarly sold on the guy and no doubt he is a hefty risk but he deserves consideration and respect.

 

[KevinSalvadori]

Amen to that. Oh, and it's Rambis. While he's still third on my list of three, I think he would do fine here. Good combo of charisma, experience, and drive, and a veeeeeeeerrry different voice and foundation compared to EMuss.

 

[Spike]

As for his looks give me break. You want to LOOK at Rambus then watch old footage of him in action. He was tough as nails and knew the game. I am not sure if he still holds the record but I know at one time he had the best shooting percentage in the play offs of any player, BECEAUSE he knew when and who to pass to, and never took a shot he could not make.

This is what players will respect. Rambis brought everything to the table on a nightly basis. He's also not my top choice, but I could handle this if the Kings were looking to rebuild. I think management may go with SVG if they're looking to simply tinker with the team. An inexperienced coach tells me they're looking to blow the whole thing up.

 

[Bricklayer]

This is what players will respect. Rambis brought everything to the table on a nightly basis. He's also not my top choice, but I could handle this if the Kings were looking to rebuild. I think management may go with SVG if they're looking to simply tinker with the team. An inexperienced coach tells me they're looking to blow the whole thing up.

People keep on forgetting that SVG coached for 2+ years, and his first one was precisely in the midst of a major rebuild. The team had been torn down, and the whole thing got dumped in his lap in training camp. And he did a helluva job with it. Ironically tying with Porter for 3rd in coach of the year voting that year. And that was with a young rebuilding squad. Then he turned around the next year, with Shaq, and showed he can coach a team to elite levels too and won 59 games.

 

[sactownfan]

im wit brick..... SVG was a stud for the heat during the heat rebuild. if there everwas a time to give credit to another coach after winning a championship it would be the heat and SVG. Pat Riley was a complete jerk to out him the way he did cause he couldnt stand to see SVG take the train wreck Rilely built and out coach him that first year to the playoffs. If wade didnt get so banged up the other year they go on to the finals. and finally Riley or SVG they win it all the next year. All those players were playing awesome at the same time, and what turned out to be the last time.

SVG is a huge part of that ring for the heat. he punk'd Rileys record with the heat. and Riley stabbed him in the back and took all the credit.

 

[Gary]

I have swagger, and I don't wear glasses. Can I have the Kings job?

I love both SVG, and Porter. I am hearing it is either going to be one or the other. I don't see any other coach that is qualified to the level we are looking for. Both are young (in coaching terms) and both have proved they can win.

The reason I give Porter the edge is that he has coache for Sacramento and will quickly get the players respect as someone that has been here before. Although I think only 1-2 players are still here from when he was the assistant I still think he would command respect.

 

[Bricklayer]

I have swagger, and I don't wear glasses. Can I have the Kings job?

I love both SVG, and Porter. I am hearing it is either going to be one or the other. I don't see any other coach that is qualified to the level we are looking for. Both are young (in coaching terms) and both have proved they can win.

The reason I give Porter the edge is that he has coache for Sacramento and will quickly get the players respect as someone that has been here before. Although I think only 1-2 players are still here from when he was the assistant I still think he would command respect.

Only 1 player, and he may well not be here in camp (Bibby), so that's a minor factor. The only advanatge is that he may be able to invoke the "during our best years mantra" and recall the good ole days of the franchise. Of course, given that a guy like Rambis can invoke the "during the 7(?) title teams I have been a part of as a player or assistant to Pat Riley and Phil Jackson, this is what I learned from Magic Johnson, Kareem Abdul Jabbar, Shaquille ONela and Kobe Bryant..." not sure that Porter's line is that much of a trumper over the competition.

 

[Gargamel]

as a player or assistant to Pat Riley and Phil Jackson, this is what I learned from Magic Johnson, Kareem Abdul Jabbar, Shaquille ONela and Kobe Bryant..."

The only things he probably learned from Shaq and Kobe (and Rodman) was just how spoiled the landscape in the modern day NBA has become. Guys like Artest are obv a far cry from Riley's "The Disease Of Me" admonishments that guys from Rambis' generation genuinely took to heart.

 

[Bricklayer]

The only things he probably learned from Shaq and Kobe (and Rodman) was just how spoiled the landscape in the modern day NBA has become. Guys like Artest are obv a far cry from Riley's "The Disease Of Me" admonishments that guys from Rambis' generation genuinely took to heart.

That may be, but that's exactly the sort of critical lesson that an NBA assistant can pick up which a guy coming from college or whatnot cannot deal with. If anything, being an assistant in the presence of prima donnas would be a significant reason TO hire a guy. When one of those cats shows up on his team, presumably he isn't completely dismayed.

 

[ParniValjak]

People keep on forgetting that SVG coached for 2+ years, and his first one was precisely in the midst of a major rebuild. The team had been torn down, and the whole thing got dumped in his lap in training camp. And he did a helluva job with it. Ironically tying with Porter for 3rd in coach of the year voting that year. And that was with a young rebuilding squad. Then he turned around the next year, with Shaq, and showed he can coach a team to elite levels too and won 59 games.

And thats why I think Ron Jeremy would be a very good fit for us. He can be the guy that is there during the rebuild where he develops young players and moulds them into a team and still be there to hopefully coach us all the way.

Appointing him as our new coach will not be a sign of a quick fix. It would be a sign that the organization is serious about what it want and where it wants to go. SVG is the best available coach that would be a great get for this team.

Thanks to Billy Boomerang, Ron Jeremy might well be out of our reach now and that pisses me off

 

[Gargamel]

That may be, but that's exactly the sort of critical lesson that an NBA assistant can pick up which a guy coming from college or whatnot cannot deal with. If anything, being an assistant in the presence of prima donnas would be a significant reason TO hire a guy. When one of those cats shows up on his team, presumably he isn't completely dismayed.

I think Rambis was intimidated by both of them. Shaq simply complained publicly about what Rambis did wrong (no respect for KR) and figuring out Kobe is like solving a Rubik's Cube behind your back (and Kobe just chewed and swallowed the directions).

Then again, if Artest is gone, I don't see any egos as dominant as those on the Kings.

 

[Bricklayer]

I think Rambis was intimidated by both of them. Shaq simply complained publicly about what Rambis did wrong (no respect for KR) and figuring out Kobe is like solving a Rubik's Cube behind your back (and Kobe just chewed and swallowed the directions).

Then again, if Artest is gone, I don't see any egos as dominant as those on the Kings.

If you are referring to that long ago little head coaching charade, I would largely agree. But that's been a logn time ago. A significant chunk of this board was in grade school when all that was going on. Presumably the intervening decade has taught him a thing or two.

I'm still not sure he has the edge to be a head coach, but he's been an assistant through a lot of tough tough personalities.

 

[kupman]

But that's been a logn time ago. A significant chunk of this board was in grade school when all that was going on.

OMG I feel old right now.